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 No.14916

I was diagnosed with diabetes on saturday but my life basically revolves around sweets and foods like pizza and pasta.

I was hoping people might know recipies for things like sugar and carb free mock milkshakes, bread, and other baked goods and sweets.

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 No.14917

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>>>/fit/ look for 'keto' recipes.

Furthermore, pics very related if you can't have sugar but must have sweets. (Last one, don't have with anything sweet as it deadens your sense of sweets. But it may help with the beetus.)

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 No.14998

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>>14917

Most sweeteners are crap. If I have a sugar craving, I chew on aniseed (not to be confused with star anise), or eat an apple. You can't binge on apples.

>>14916

Mock anything is never going to be as good as the real thing. Learn to enjoy what you do have instead of finding solace in what you don't.

Switch to proteins and fats if you have to cut carbs. You should try and find some "real" bread. Eg goes dry if you leave it out, doesn't have sugar or corn syrup/hfcs as ingredients, isn't made of white flour. Other than that you have free reign on bacon, eggs, butter, steak, burger patties, chicken, fish, brocoly, cabage, lettuce, cale, onion, etc. etc. Carbs are overrated.

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/the-paleo-diet.aspx

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 No.14999

>>14916

Sucks. Stay away from zero sugar sodas and other artificial sweeterners. They still generate cravings and make it harder to stay keto. If you absolutely need something sweet go with liquid stevia (for cold stuff). Imho keto diet is first and foremost an organizational challenge. You need to plan your meals and snacks ahead. Ordering takeout or buying stuff from the convini are usually no option any more.

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 No.15021

Diagnosed with dm type 2 almost 4 years ago now.

Craving for sweets was significantly reduced after 3-4 weeks of avoidance.

Your experience may vary.

My kidneys are functioning normally/acceptably; drinking more water has helped dilute the blood sugar down towards acceptable concentrations.

My biggest problem is refined sugars; starches don't cause a blood sugar spike the same way as sugars do (slow, gradual rise/fall vs fast rise/fast fall), so I don't worry about eating normal food and I do OK… just no sugar soda, and minimal candies (when blood is "low", and I need a boost fast).

More green vegetables = more good.

Also, carrots are surprisingly sweet once cooked.

Drink more water, pee it out, walk it off. More walking, even if it's as simple as parking in the back row of the parking lot instead of up close to the building helps.

I know you're looking for recipes, but replacing a milkshake with a less-bad-for-you milkshake may not work as well as you'd like.

Drink water, eat steamed vegetables, use your muscles to burn sugar. Taking a month to replace the habits that are killing you with better habits will probably help more, plus allow your taste buds to appreciate flavors other than sweet.

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 No.15023

have you tried fasting?

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 No.15024

>>15023

Not OP, but it doesn't help as much as you'd think.

If you fast and then feast,.you end up with a hard to manage blood sugar spike.

Much easier to control the blood sugar if you have 4-5 small meals a day.

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 No.15026

whole grain pasta > white flour pasta iirc

make your own pasta is a pain but making your own bread is easy enough

https://mydearkitcheninhelsinki.com/2014/11/21/fjellbrod-a-nutritious-norwegian-bread/

as for sweets i just dont eat sweets but snacks with strong flavors like ginger might satiate you until you get used to avoiding sweets. i like to chew unsweetened rhubarb it's just down to what you'd enjoy

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 No.15029

>>15024

Only if you go back to feasting on carbage.

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 No.15030

>>15024

>The trial lasted 10 months in total, and the three men stuck to their schedule without encountering any difficulties. After the fasting period, the team measured their weight and blood glucose.

>The results revealed significant improvement: all three lost weight, blood glucose was lower, and they were able to stop using insulin after a month from the beginning of the trial. In one case, the person stopped after only 5 days.

>Two of the men also discontinued all diabetic drugs, while the third participant stopped 3 out of 4 drugs.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323316.php

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 No.15037

>>15030

>sample size of 3

A study of this type with that small of a sample size gives so little information as to be useless.

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 No.15167

Is it type 1 or type 2?

I strongly suggest exercising to help if it is type 2. I recommend fruit and honey if you have sweet cravings.

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 No.15168

>>15037

FINALLY! Someone who knows how to study the study!

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 No.15174

>>14916

good god man, go keto.

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 No.15390

Hi OP, I hope you're still around to see this.

I was diagnosed with diabetes 22 months ago. My A1C was 10, my fasting blood glucose was 380.

I had been sort of halfheartedly thinking about the keto diet because I'd heard it was good for weight loss. I immediately went on keto because it made sense to me that reducing carbohydrates drastically would help control my diabetes.

A couple of weeks later I went to see the endocrinologist for the first time. She told me I could not stop all carbohydrates, that I had to go on three drugs plus insulin, and that because of one of the drugs, I would have to constantly eat carbohydrates or else the drug would put me into a coma from sudden plunges in blood glucose (the drug was "spiky" in its action).

I said fuck that, stayed on keto, went on two of the three drugs, frequently monitored my blood glucose level, saw that I was keeping my blood glucose in control with just the two drugs, soon saw that I didn't need one of the drugs any more, discontinued that, went a few more months and found that my blood glucose was stable enough that I could discontinue the third drug. In all that time, I never once went on insulin.

When I went back in at the seven month mark, my fasting and postprandial glucose were both in the 90s and my A1C had dropped to 5.7. Without drugs, without insulin.

As of about a month ago, I am no longer diagnosable as diabetic by any medical criteria. My A1C is 5.4, my fasting blood glucose is 80-85. If I eat a bunch of chocolate, i.e. sugar, my blood glucose spikes as high as 150-ish but is well below 140 by the two-hour mark. I can eat carbs now without any ill effect. I don't want to, because I don't want to risk becoming diabetic again.

This is what going hard-mode keto for not quite two years has accomplished.

If your diabetes is recent, you have a better chance of reversing it. If you've been diabetic for years and just didn't know it, it will still help control your blood sugar.

Beware that some of the medications they will try to put you on will absolutely force you to eat carbs, because if you don't, the medications can put you into a coma. If you are on one of those (glimepiride is one), then talk to your doc about getting off it and trying keto. If he refuses to help you, find another doctor. Mine wanted me on that and two other drugs plus insulin, and told me I'd have to eat 12 servings of carbohydrates per day to control the drug. It's insane. Following the standard medical advice will put you on a path for constantly increasing your insulin and medication dosages, and eventual amputations and an early death.

If you're not able to change your diet and insist on eating carbs all the time, then best of luck to you. Substitutes are a start but most are only a partial fix (not as good so you're always tempted to go back on the real full-carb thing).

Keto is there if you need it and want to fix the problem.

As far as sugar-free candies, you can make coconut clusters with some of the artificial sweeteners and they'll be pretty good. Maybe throw on some cocoa powder for that "chocolate" taste. Seriously dark chocolate (the 85% stuff) is fine to eat as long as you limit it.

>>15030

>>15037

True, it's an n=3 study, but it shows what can be done. The point of such studies is not "is this statistically significant", it's "here's what happens when these guys did this – spoiler: they didn't die, and in fact they got healthier".

I'm another example. I went from "you will absolutely be insulin dependent for life" to not needing or taking anything in five months. And I could have quit taking metformin at least a month earlier, probably even within the first month, but I was scared of what might happen because the docs were telling me "you must take these drugs". I've seen many more people post the same sort of story over on leddit's keto subleddit.

I mean, FFS, when I was diagnosed I had a 400-ish blood glucose level. By the time I bought my glucose meter, keto had dropped me to the 160s. By the time I made the rounds through all the doctors I was told to go to, keto had dropped me to the 110s with peaks in the 160s. By my six-month followup with the endocrinologist (seven months after dx) I was "normal" and the initial tests would have said I wasn't diabetic – only an insulin resistance test would have said, "holy fuckballs, this guy's insulin resistance is ridonkulous!" And now even my insulin resistance is down so far that I'm "normal" again.

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 No.15391

>>15390

Glad to hear it. Holiday cheating is slowing me down a little, but I'm heading towards 100lbs lost. Just over 70lbs lost right now. I had to buy a new suit for a recent job interview. I'd lost so much weight that the tailor couldn't get it to fit without doing a full recut, which would cost more than just buying a new suit. This all all without exercise. Keto is powerful medicine.

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 No.15405

>>15391

I wish I were losing weight on it, but I've only dropped 20 pounds in nearly two years now. And I'm eating a measured 1300 calories per day on average.

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 No.15406

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>>15405

Dude. Read the Minnesota starvation study.Your metabolism is freaking out. You need to seriously up your FAT intake for a month or two. I don't even count calories. If you fix your metabolism, the calories will take care of themselves. That's the whole point of keto. I suggest you check out Dr. Jason Fung. He has a particularly enlightening series of prsentations on youtube called "The Aetiology of Obesity." I'll embed the first one.

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 No.15408

Keto is a meme diet. Tried it for four months and got fatty liver disease. Never again.

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 No.15409

>>15408

That's pretty much impossible. You either didn't do keto, or are just lying. Keto is one of the best treatments for fatty liver there is. The only thing better is extended fasting.

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 No.15777

>>15408

No you didnt. Keto is the *treatment* for fatty liver disease.

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 No.15780

>>15777

For some that might be the case. Looks like there are people who can't tolerate keto. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3679496/

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 No.15781

>>14916

eat an apple if you need something sweet but not apple juice since the fibers and other shit prevent you being retarded and eat a lot of fucking meat, meat's savory taste better than sweetest of foods

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