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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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c9e66d No.854610

S A L V A T I O N ((((1/2))))

Upon asking many people in the world today, "Are you saved?", most will reply with an automatic, "Yes"; but if we ask them what they are saved from, most of them will have no idea what we are even talking about… Salvation is deliverance. It is being rescued from something. It is something that is done by one who has the strength and power to save, for someone who has the need and desire to be rescued.

Salvation in the New Testament is spoken of in two tenses:

1.) Salvation from the bondage of sin, so that a person can be changed from a sinner into a saint (all Christians are saints), and have the power to live a holy life free from the bondage of sin (present tense)…

2.) Salvation from the wrath of God Almighty [Jesus Christ] which is to come (future tense) by living in the power of the gospel of Christ, and keeping oneself free from sin until the day of judgment.

Paul taught it this way in Romans 5:9,10:

"Much more then, being now (present tense) justified by his blood, we shall be (future tense) saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled (present tense), we shall be saved (future tense) by his life."

SALVATION FROM THE BONDAGE OF SIN

"Verily, verily I say unto you, he that committeth sin is the servant of sin." (John 8:34)

We are not sinners because we sin; we sin because we are sinners.

This statement is true of all who are not in Christ by the gospel of the New Testament. Every man and woman ever born (except the Son of God, whose Father was not a man), was born under the curse of sin that Adam brought upon himself and his seed. Man is a sinner. That is why he sins. He must sin. He is a bondservant. He was born that way and cannot help it, much in the same way that a baby born from a mother addicted to crack cocaine is born addicted to crack cocaine when he has never personally used it. It is not fair; he was just born that way.

That is why God came in the flesh as the last Adam, to "undo" what the first Adam did in the beginning. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came into the world, never sinned, and became the perfect sacrifice to pay the death penalty that every person on earth deserved.

"For all have sinned, [That includes you] and come short of the glory of God…" (Romans 3:23)

"The wages of sin is death…" (Romans 6:23)

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die." (Ezekiel 18:4)

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2630d4 No.854612

>>854610

>salvation by keeping oneself free from sin until the day of judgment

This is impossible, which is way salvation is by grace

Are you a christian perfectionist? You're not a pelagian since you're affirming original sin

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c9e66d No.854613

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>>854612

Sir, with all due respect but you do not know who the Lord Jesus Christ is. We are commanded to keep ourselves from sin (that doesn’t mean that we are unable to sin) so that we may remain unspotted. To say that it is impossible would be a lie from the pit of hell.

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2630d4 No.854614

>>854613

logically everyone has a final sin, and also anyone living in sin is not saved, but your statement constitutes a false gospel of works. Paul himself seemingly still struggled with sin according to Romans 7.

Deliverance from divine wrath is not contingent upon keeping yourself free from sin until judgment.

So are you a christian perfectionist or not? Also why are you sageing your own thread?

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97dbd9 No.854616

>>854614

>Paul himself seemingly still struggled with sin according to Romans 7.

Pretty much this. The apostle John wrote,

I John chapter 1

>6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

>7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

>8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

>9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

>10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Notice verse 8.

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