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Genesis 6 Old Testament 03/29/21 (Mon) 21:01:53 d18912 No.854559

WHO ARE THE SONS OF GOD IN GENESIS 6:4?

In the Old Testament, those who were called the sons of God were:

- "Adam (Luke 3:38)"

- "The Angels (Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7)"

- "Israel (Isaiah 43:6,7, Psalms 82:6, Matthew 9:2,22)"

Adam lived 930 years (Genesis 5:5), and we can see by the genealogies in Genesis 5 that the time of 120 years before the flood (Genesis 6:3) was approximately 1,000 years after the death of Adam.

And though Adam was verily created in the image of God, he sinned and fell, and afterward begat sons ""in his own likeness, after his image"" (Genesis 5:3) as a sinner (Romans 5:12); and as a result his children were not called in the scripture "sons of God".

Seth was given by God as a substitute for the seed of Abel, whom Cain slew, but, nowhere are Seth or his seed called sons of God…

The scripture gives us no reason to believe that Seth or his seed possessed any special power to produce or engender giants (Genesis 6:4).

Israel came from Abraham, who did not yet exist during the time indicated in Genesis Chapter 6.

Therefore we can see clearly that "the sons of God" in Genesis 6 werenotmen.

So, the only other possibility is that they were angels. Peter and Jude spoke of them in the New Testament (2 Peter 2:4,5, Jude 1:6,7), saying that they had fornicated after the same manner as Sodom and Gomorrah; and they are not running to and fro through the earth today, as are the devil and his angels (Job 1:7, 2:2, Ephesians 6:12), but are rather "…reserved under chains of darkness unto the judgment of the great day…"

They are in the abyss where the unclean spirits of today fear to go (Luke 8:31).

After his crucifixion, our Lord Jesus Christ preached his victory to them (1 Peter 3:19, Colossians 2:15).

They are the "third part of the stars of heaven" that were cast down to the earth by the tail of the dragon (Revelation 12:4).

Of a truth, it is clear that the sons of God in Genesis 6:4 are angels.

*Questions*

"Can angels have physical bodies?"

- The scripture testifies that they can indeed. In Genesis 18 & 19, the angels washed their feet (18:4), and ate meat and bread (18:8). They did the same thing in Sodom (19:2,3). The men of Sodom wanted to know them sexually (19:5). They reached out their hands, and pulled Lot into the house with them, and shut the door (19:10). Jacob wrestled with an angel of the LORD (Genesis 32:24-30). The writer of Hebrews says that some have entertained angels unawares (Hebrews 13:4)…

"Can angels, being spirits, beget children?"

- Some would say no, citing Matthew 22:30. The disobedient angels before the flood "took them wives of all which they chose"(Genesis 6:2), but we can see in Matthew 22:30 that Jesus was not speaking of ALL the angels, but rather, "the angels which are in heaven". Those that rebelled before the flood are not in heaven, but are in the abyss.

(2 Peter 2:4, Jude 1:6, 1 Peter 3:19,20, Ephesians 4:9, Colossians 2:15)

Also, God himself put his seed into the womb of a virgin (but not by fornication!), and begat a Son by her. Clearly the Son of God, Jesus Christ, is both the Son of God (Luke 1:35, Romans 1:4), and also the Son of Man (Romans 1:3, Luke 19:10), the seed of the woman (Genesis 3:15).

The scripture says, There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

(1 Corinthians 15:44).

If God, being a Spirit (John 4:24), is able to put his seed into the womb of a virgin, and if he is able to take for himself a bride (Israel–Jeremiah 3:14, Ezekiel 16:8), why do so many say that the "sons of God" (Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7) cannot take to themselves wives and bear children, because they are spirits?

It is clear from the scripture that they can indeed, although it is forbidden. And of a truth they did just that in the days before the flood, and the result was mutants–giants. This also happened after the flood

(Numbers 13:32,33, 1 Samuel 17:4,

2 Samuel 21:15-22;)

and it will happen again in the last days

Ecclesiastes 1:9, 1 Corinthians 10:11, Daniel 2:43…

""Watch and pray.""

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!Q9o4nwL7Ec 03/29/21 (Mon) 21:50:14 d18912 No.854567

Amen.

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† 03/29/21 (Mon) 22:52:29 9adae4 No.854568

You're forgetting what is written in I John 3:1, which says

"Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."

>WHO ARE THE SONS OF GOD IN GENESIS 6:4?

Saved people, obviously. That's why it was considered to be "corrupting his way" (Genesis 6:12) when they would intermix with those who were of Cain's line.

>but, nowhere are Seth or his seed called sons of God…

They are in Genesis 6:4 lol. That's the whole point.

>Peter and Jude spoke of them in the New Testament (2 Peter 2:4,5, Jude 1:6,7)

I've seen this before. 2 Peter 2:4 does not say anything like what you said about those angels. Clearly Sodom and Gomorrha, being in verse 6, are a different example from verse 4, the key theme being rebellion.

Jude 1:5-7 again shows us three examples of rebellion. You are accidentally attributing what the Sodomites did with the angels. Both groups rebelled against God in their own ways. It says the angels "kept not their first estate." That isn't the same as what's described for the cities of Sodom, Gomorrha and the cities about them, which all together committed the rebellion of "going after strange flesh." Again, here there are three different examples of rebellion when you also include the rebellion of those who left Egypt in Jude 1:5 who "believed not." So these are three different examples of "rebellion" and that is the common linking factor here. Same with II Peter 2:4–6.

>saying that they had fornicated after the same manner as Sodom and Gomorrah

It says the cities about them in like manner. Meaning the smaller cities aside from Sodom and Gomorrha also did the same thing that the two big cities did. Which explains why they were all destroyed for their rebellion together.

>and they are not running to and fro through the earth today, as are the devil and his angels (Job 1:7, 2:2, Ephesians 6:12), but are rather "…reserved under chains of darkness unto the judgment of the great day…"

Sure.

>After his crucifixion, our Lord Jesus Christ preached his victory to them (1 Peter 3:19, Colossians 2:15).

Colossians 2:15 is simply about the resurrection. Nothing specific to what you are getting at.

>(1 Peter 3:19)

Read the surrounding context here:

"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."

- 1 Peter 3:18-20

So we see here that the spirits now in prison were "sometime disobedient": meaning in the past, in the days of Noah when they were preached to. We learn from 1 Peter 3:18 that Christ preached unto those people, "by the Spirit," as it says. So this is about how, even in Noah's day, Christ preached "by the Spirit" to those who were then disobedient (as it says, "which sometime were disobedient"), who are now spirits in prison. So because of this, this is unrelated to what you were implying earlier.

>Some would say no, citing Matthew 22:30.

Yep, exactly.

>and it will happen again in the last days Ecclesiastes 1:9, 1 Corinthians 10:11, Daniel 2:43…

Interesting idea though, anon. Did you happen to have any additional Scripture references you had in mind? I'd be interested to know if you did have any other references other than these.

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† 03/29/21 (Mon) 23:17:18 81b88b No.854569

>>854568

>Some would say no, citing Matthew 22:30.

Yep, exactly.

I think you missed anon’s point there. Anon said that Jesus was only referring to the angels which are in heaven i.e the obedient ones. Not all angels.

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