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85e99f No.854362

I really thought this sin was being put to death in me. I recently had an experience that felt like I was dying and I was failing to really trust God in the midst of it because of the poisonous ideas I had been exposed to in the occult. I realize I have not dealt with this issue and I have no idea how to. Anyway, let me explain what happened.

I took a full dose of medication I hadn't taken in some time. It was an antipsychotic I don't need that was given to me because my spiritual experiences were stigmatized as schizophrenia. Ironically I was also diagnosed with depression because I was once possessed and believed my soul had been taken from me, making me despondent and nervous for half a year of hospitalization. The irony was that I am never depressed now because I have since been forgiven and restored to faith. Thus they totally exposed their own incompetence by validating the so-called "depression" which, from their perspective would have to be the result of a schizophrenic delusion. Nevertheless, I had an appointment coming up and I wanted to be able to say I had been taking my medication with a clear conscience. I didn't really believe the medication could do anything to me but the problem is I was doing work for a guy at my church who lived outside the city and sometimes I would forget the medication and get major withdrawl. So first I started taking one pill and then I forgot to take it altogether for some time. So I took the two pills and it was a shock to my system. I started out by appearing drunk or high and by the time I got off the bus and was walking home it was like my whole body was shutting down without my consent. So I freaked out and I got the impression I was even maybe dying and I really felt like I was having an experience like John Wesley did with the Moravians in that I was afraid and unprepared to go (though for completely different reasons). I remembered King Hezekiah and asked the Lord to add more years to my life. Eventually a woman helped me by calling an ambulance (Glad I don't live in China). I told the ambulance I didn't want to go to the hospital, that I was experiencing physical duress and I merely needed a ride home. They gave me a courtesy ride. This experience has shaken my faith quite a bit and I have hardly had peace since, as I know the mistrust of God I had still within me. Let me explain.

I studied the occult for about 6 months before the Lord supernaturally called me out and gave me a tremendous experience of deliverance in which it was excruciatingly painful to pray because I had demons with legal grounds over me. I didn't know about deliverance at the time but I would not pray because of the pain and then I saw myself in a mirror and it was like a hideous doomed creature manifesting in my countenance. I freaked out, prayed through the pain and eventually threw up, and then the Holy Spirit came unto me. This was how I became a Christian. I really thought I had forsaken the ideas I was introduced to in the occult. I had adopted a posture of Fideism to protect myself from trying to reason everything out as I attempted to as a neoplatonist. There is no doubt in my mind the occult has not been "hidden" by the devil but, providentially, by God almighty, because of the deceptive intellectual appeal of the ideas contained within it. The best way I could describe it is like rick and morty (no don't worry, I don't watch that garbage) cosmology: multiple realities, many of them nested inside each other with deceptive lesser cosmic potentates running them. I mean, some of this seems "reasonable", to me at least. For this reason I had tried to turn my back on my own reason as a way of discerning any ultimate truth. But it seems because of the above episode, its apparent that I have only managed to ignore these ideas and speak and exhort and warn against them but I truly haven't been able to get past the stumbling stone of accepting the Lord Jesus as ultimate. In a sense I haven't loved him with all of my mind. I am quite terrified and I now find these ideas racing through my mind and all I can do is call out to God and one time in church I felt I had to get alone and pray in tongues. I really don't feel much peace now, it is robbed away by remembering my own disgusting, cowardly pride on that day and thus my susceptibility to my old futility of mind. I understand if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off, but what if your mind does? What then? How did St. Augustine do it bros?

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eab624 No.854381

Spiritual warfare doesnt end by becoming Christian, temptation will always accompany you. Demons put thoughts into our heads and the more dark stuff we have in our memory due to the things we got in contact with( be it occult crap, porn, our sins, etc) the better for them for they can bring it up to mess with us, leading us to sin or despair.

What you have to do is not give airtime to those thoughts, purge them away as they come. If you do this constantly those temptations will become more feeble.

Like Paul says: "we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."

This wont apply to the bulk of us but God can actually cleanse our memory but it's a very advanced stage of the spiritual life (dark night of the soul).

See this video for a description of the spiritual stages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taW3uhqf8s4

Or this series of 5 if you like the topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baX_Yw_6z-o&list=PLejh_e0-LN4zWkJaGGMwAeZMnl4letR6e

I'd stop with the tongues stuff, it was always seen as talking in other languages as to better evangelize, this new way of saying random things is not unanimous, some exorcists advise against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0UwaF6FJQ

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46ccaa No.854394

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>I mean, some of this seems "reasonable", to me at least.

Maybe you could try talking with someone who's been there before that could answer all of your questions (try a priest? Maybe he'll know someone who'll be able to answer your questions). That would be a good way to go if you really need to answer those doubts. Don't feel ashamed about it: it's better to do it! I also have been in the same situation as you; some of this stuff seems reasonable for some time but it's like porn: yesterday people were so sure that it being bad for you was "irrational religious nonsense" and it looked like it wasn't bad at all, but some time after that all those studies came and now everybody knows that stuff harms your body and mind. Faith in God is more rational than putting faith in your own reason, as curious as that might be; God is eternal and beyond yourself and he loves you anon: trust in him that he is the only one who won't betray you and wants what's truly best for you!

>But it seems because of the above episode, its apparent that I have only managed to ignore these ideas and speak and exhort and warn against them but I truly haven't been able to get past the stumbling stone of accepting the Lord Jesus as ultimate

Try talking with someone who will answer of all your questions as I said before. I was in something similar to you and getting deeper into Christianity (reading good books and praying) helped me a lot and answered a lot of my doubts; this will allow you to expand your mind and understand stuff from other perspective. If God had the mercy to get you out of that Occultism stuff he will also help you totally erase it from your life and achieve peace.

If you ended up learning all of that occultism stuff because "it was there and it got me kinda curious" then relax that it'll go away soon; just don't get into it again.

> In a sense I haven't loved him with all of my mind. I am quite terrified and I now find these ideas racing through my mind and all I can do is call out to God and one time in church I felt I had to get alone and pray in tongues. I really don't feel much peace now, it is robbed away by remembering my own disgusting, cowardly pride on that day and thus my susceptibility to my old futility of mind.

Just ignore the thoughts, anon. Satan plays 666d chess against you inside your head to either get you sinning and/or make you suffer and the only way to defeat him is to fully focus your mind on God and being humble otherwise you're playing his games and he'll laugh at you. Remember this anon: those thoughts aren't yours so don't panic. The devil likes it when you panic, trust in God and he will bring you peace. Pray a lot too, God will answer.

God loves you and understands that you're not perfect. It's expected that you won't be perfect, anon. But God still loves you and forgives you and wants you to improve. God is pure love and He makes what's wrong into wonders. Don't fall into the devil's tricks: remember that God wants you to stop sinning and fully forgives you if you sincerely ask him; the guilt is only inside of yourself. Change that guilt you feel into repentance so that you won't fall again as that's a good way to go. The devil is as strong as you let him be and he wants you panicking. God wants you in peace. Ignore those thoughts and focus your mind entirely on God and he will give you rest. Keep on going and God will give you what you need and will give you peace.

Peace comes from Humility and Repentance anon. A part of Humility is realizing that you may fall and can't be perfect by your own efforts; only then will you overcome what's stopping you from becoming better, anon. Pray as that's the best you can do. Godspeed!

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c6b6e6 No.854399

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>>854394

Thanks for the encouragement fren! I came to the same conclusions and this message by pastor Tim Conway really helped me. I hope it helps all of you as well.

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