c902c5 No.853666
> Queen Elizabeth I (head of the Church of Englad) allied with Moroccans in an attempt to destroy Spain.
> John Sigismund (King of Hungary and converted Protestant), was begging for help to Sultan Suleiman; because he preferred to be ruled by Islam, than by the Holy Roman Empire and the Holy Church.
> During the Dutch Revolt (Dutch "Reformation"), Calvinists made alliance with Muslims.
Meanwhile, Holy Roman Empire, Romanians and the Austrians were defending the eastern borders against Turks, who gained control over the Balkans.
Thank you so much Protestants… You're just simply a false religion with a mission to divide Europe into so many groups; to ensure that Europe never reconquer Constantinople and Jerusalem. Thanks for NOTHING.
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000000 No.853667
Protestant only has one thing in common: hate of Catholics. Some will make deals with the devil if it would hurt Catholics.
You can also expect the Protestant salute: "Not my particular denomination".
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663f30 No.853668
>>853667
>>853667
Protestantism was created by jealous occultist sorcerers, who were really frightened that the Holy Roman Empire was so huge, to rid off Turks, and Kikerinhos.
Most Protestants are so stupid. They deny their own legacy and embrace others' cultures and Ecumenism. In fact, Vatican II is plagued of Protestant ideas.
And yet you see some Europeans complaining about "we're losing our culture", "Muslims are taking our country".
Well, they assisted Muslims because they hated the HRV so much.
> Picture of some beautiful statues in Saint Martin Cathedral destroyed by the Dutch Protestants during the Dutch Revolt. You can feel their {[(love)]} when you see how they destroyed their faces.
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ba4820 No.853674
>>853666
>>853667
>>853668
All of you need to take your meds
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922a68 No.853675
You are very angry at God it seems, this despite not having faith in Him and in His ability as our Lord to accomplish our salvation. Perhaps you should consider not being a cultist and actually placing your faith in Christ. Openly Jesus is waiting and giving space for you to repent. As it says in 1 Timothy 2, "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." And in 2 Peter, "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
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725dbe No.853676
>>853675
I don't blame the rest of Calvifags - including Baptists -, but your level on reject every aspect of history, and replace it only with Sola Scriptura, and you interpreting as you like, it's a blasphemy.
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2c9ae4 No.853687
>>853666
Historically, the enemies of Spain, are the Protestants. But I am Spaniard and was raised as a Protestant in a Methodist Church.
I love Spanish history, and La Reconquista; and the development of the HRE under the Hapsburg-Trastámara control, but…
Catholics are so stupid.
> They worship Mary as if she would be a goddess.
> The Church charge their members for everything. A Methodist pastor can assist a burial of a poor family; but Catholics, you must pay for everything - for to make a mass, for a confession so the priest can absolve you from capital sins… They charge people if they "want" to make a mass to take out someone you love from Hell…
Well… The Catholic Church is a cash laundering. I'm not surprised that so many people from Krautsland (Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland), saw so attractive these new Christian denominations.
I agree that Protestant Reformation sucks as Hell, and it was influenced by foreigners, enemies of Christendom.
But… Protestants are basically Christians; and if their Christian denominations are still prevailing today, it's because they push the Priesthood of Believers, and they follow the scripture.
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e47cdd No.853692
>>853667
>Protestant only has one thing in common: hate of Catholics. Some will make deals with the devil if it would hurt Catholics.
>You can also expect the Protestant salute: "Not my particular denomination".
THIS
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a061f7 No.853696
>>853666
666 trips confirm op's evil intent. You've made an idol out of Europe itself and have abandoned the love of Christ for the love of papal control
>>853667
Has it backwards. That catholic hierarchy gladly let the muslims kill orthodox christians in eastern europe because "its not my problem".
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853718 No.853697
>>853696
At least (OP) is telling the truth: Protestants can sell their souls to the Devil, if they can achieve to stop the Catholic Church
>Has it backwards. That catholic hierarchy gladly let the muslims kill orthodox christians in eastern europe because "its not my problem".
Are you sure about that? The HRE was defending Eruope against the the Muslim threat, while the Protestants were killing Catholics and imposing their ridiculous and divisive creeds.
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5ff2f0 No.853700
>>853696
>Has it backwards. That catholic hierarchy gladly let the muslims kill orthodox christians in eastern europe because "its not my problem".
I don't think this is true. For example,
>Byzantine emperor Alexios I Komnenos, worried about the advances of the Seljuqs in the aftermath of the Battle of Manzikert, who had reached as far west as Nicaea, sent envoys to the Council of Piacenza in March 1095 to ask Pope Urban II for aid against the invading Turks.
>Urban responded favourably, perhaps hoping to heal the Great Schism of forty years earlier, and to reunite the Church under papal primacy by helping the Eastern churches in their time of need.[37] Alexios and Urban had previously been in close contact in 1089 and after, and had discussed openly the prospect of the (re)union of the Christian church. There were signs of considerable co-operation between Rome and Constantinople in the years immediately before the crusade.[38]
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade
By the time of the 1500s, the church was up to it's eyeballs defending itself against the Protestants who were murdering priests and nuns. The EO and Prots allied with the Moslems against the Church of God. There was no "let" to it
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da5ad9 No.853724
>>853700
> Eastern Orthodox and Muslims united to destroy the Catholic Church.
True. And it's ironical, because in Greece, the Turks were constantly mocking and chasing Orthodox Christians. They served to the Devil, they're treated as garbage by their own masters… Orthodox and Protestants as vassals of Sultan Suleiman. How awful and shameful it sounds.
I bet Orthodox and specially Protestants who would like to delete this thread. Pretty good and based thread who debunk the false Christians.
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6ad462 No.853727
>>853692
You catholics and your victim complex. I swear, you're worse than the jews and the blacks combined.
If they hated you, they wouldn't be trying to warn you and save you from satan's counterfeit church. You take all criticism of the roman catholic cult as a personal attack on you instead of what it is at face value.
Orthodox church is just a flavor of catholicism. And before someone starts kvetching about apostate "protestant" churches to deboooonk everything I've said, I don't attend that church. So go on, post the love-of-money televangelists who are no different than the catholic church with its billions in gold and art, neither of which obey God.
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6ad462 No.853728
>>853667
>You can also expect the Protestant salute: "Not my particular denomination".
TORpedo upset that not every church is set up like a pyramid hierarchy to protect pedophiles or something?
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da5ad9 No.853733
>>853728
Pope Francis is a pedo Pope who ordered to put a statue of MARTIN LUTHER in the Vatican at the same time, when he allowed to allowed to put one statue to God Moloch in the Roman Colosseum - who is property of the Vatican. Pope Francis is a PAGAN [[[MARRANO]]] UNDERCOVER GLOWtigger agent of the NWO.
He has also embraced the Protestant service… Pope Francis is a liar, and he's not really a Catholic Priest.
Our legitimate pope is Benedict XVI.
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6ad462 No.853736
>>853733
The whole idea of a pope is fake and gay (heretical).
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9cf2e9 No.853743
>>853736
Do you want Mario Bergoglio? Take it. He's not part of our communion - the Catholic Church. He's just simply an heretic Marrano Kabbalistic servant.
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853718 No.853748
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4d07cc No.853816
>>853666
>>853666
Today we're living in a world influenced by Protestants and their submissive ideas.
Then you see them complaining "why?".
>>853697
Yes, Protestants are cowards, who preferred to ally with pagans than reunify Erurope by the command of the Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V (I).
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5ff2f0 No.853819
>>853736
>The whole idea of a pope is fake and gay (heretical).
It was Christ's idea, as explained in Matt 16:18, the part of the Bible, the red letter text of Jesus, that makes protestants writhe with the agony of hell.
If we could tap the gas from the gaslighting of protestants over that scripture verse, we could solve the world's energy problems.
Catholics call Catholic priests "Father" because God works through them when they perform the sacraments. We're calling God Father, not the man.
In the case of Jorge Bergoglio, he's the Pope of the Novus Ordo, a religion about 59 years old that was invented by Freemasons LARPing as Catholics and a bunch of protestants.
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f3e5e3 No.853823
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4c63bd No.853824
>>853823
>
Proof that Cathoclism created Islam in order to destroy Bible believing Christians:
That doesn't make any sense simply because catholiclism was the most dominant, unless the middle east weren't catholic and there had dogma that believed that muslims worshipped a corrupted version of god but the only problem is that going more into their own scriptures allah sounds more like a diety that not only contradicts Yahweh in behaivour and it being more tolerant of sin and the some of things he does like being an accuser or certain names is exactly how satan was described in the bible and that is if according to some ex cultists that islam isn't being lead by a high ranking demon like baal or moloch.
And islam being an anthesis of truth and logic anything normal like having a pet dog or having a gf (as logn as you don't fornicate) are not permissible, but could you in the far pale away from the religion along with some things being unforgivable and it usually being a death sentence.
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100bb6 No.853901
>>853675
If you think yourself knowledable enough to accurately interpret scripture better than the first 2000 years worth of Christians who came before you, your faith is in yourself and not God.
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5ff2f0 No.853903
>>853901
This, really.
I believe in the Catholic faith, no matter how unpopular it is with modernist ideas. Even the parts I don't know yet, I believe. Just show the encyclicals to me.
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061776 No.854009
>>853666
If Queen Elizabeth is representative of all protestants, then Pope Francis is representative of all Catholics.
Really wanna use that standard?
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64ee2b No.854012
>>853724
Dont forget they are allowed tp curse us because their false idol false prophet fake book and sharia allows them to, they can enslave us and our women making any marriage anulled hate anything natural like owning a pet dog although there is nothing wrong with it and is usually healthy, but camel urine and having acid are usually good for medical purposes in their bs fake religion, any drawing are bad and can make you an apostate and can lie to us if they cant achieve a certain something hy telling the truth like taqqyia and other forms of lying hate is apart of their doctrine, doesnt tolerate anyone and we are meant to be opposed and fought.
Nothing in that religion is genuine cant have a relationship for some reason blah blah blah.
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5ff2f0 No.854013
>>854009
Maybe protestants shouldn't use the standard of the head of the church being questionable and then whine and bitch when it's used against them.
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922a68 No.854024
>>854013
Christ our Lord is the head of the church and the Lord is not questionable. As it says in God's word the Bible, "Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?"
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e1c800 No.854027
i saw a new some months ago about how the protestant helped de ISIS to destroy orthodox churches
is it true? can you link the new? i cant find it
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e70474 No.854033
>>854027
Quite odd that christians are often persecuted and not just muslims but hindus, political right and left, nazism, fascists authoritians, atheists and nearly everybody is against us.
Of course not everybody because you got people tryinf to live day to day life not caring to much about religion.
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2cb736 No.854045
>>854013
Typical cursing Catholics ~ not christlike at all. You people are basically cosplayers.
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5ff2f0 No.854059
>>854045
Pointing out you sinners were the first to throw stones is straight out of the Bible.
At least in the Bible, they felt shame.
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f2b40d No.854061
>>853666
>Be Roman Catholic
>Pope has called for a crusade to take the Holy Land
>"Alright, time to show those muzzies who's boss for real this time!"
>Sail to the Holy Land
>Various Roman Catholic leaders obsessed with vanity and fame undermine each other so that they can take all the glory for themselves
>Add in some poor coordination and communication
>Fail to make any significant accomplishments
>Get your crap pushed in by the muzzies
>Angry at your self-inflicted disaster, you turn your attention to Constantinople
>Proceed to ransack, pillage, and rape the Christians there
>Your lust for destruction further cripples an already flailing Eastern Roman Empire
>Haul back numerous relics, treasures, and Greek writings to your respective homelands
>Years pass
>Scholars pour over and study these looted treasures from Constantinople
>Greek scholars flee to the West to escape the Turks
>A movement called the Renaissance is born, a new period in the Latin-dominated West
>Literally just a rediscovery of Greek philosophy, theology, and the very culture that was at the heart of Ancient Christianity, preserved in the East
>This, coupled with the Roman Catholic Church's lascivious desire for wealth and over-bearing power structure leads some priests to rethink and compare notes between the Latin and Greek worlds
>Come to the conclusion that the Bishop of Rome and the Roman Catholic Church have gone way to far and have become a perverse organization
>Try to debate and possibly rectify these issues that are obviously way off course from what Christianity is supposed to be about
>Attract some followers who agree that things need to change
>Met with "how dare you question the authority of Rome!"
>Forced into exile
>Followers protest against the Roman Catholic church and form separate denominations they feel are a more accurate representation of how Christianity is meant to be practiced and its true doctrines
>Roman Catholic church feels it's losing its vice grip over the West
>Declares war on all who don't submit to the Bishop of Rome
>Protestants just fight for their right to practice their version they feel is correct
>Now back to present day, ill-informed Roman Catholics who've been fed anti-protestant propaganda will blame protestants for the rise and domination of the Ottoman Empire
The Ottoman Empire would have never taken Constantinople if the Roman Catholics didn't turn their back on Eastern Rome. They pleaded for help, and you ignored. When you did answer their call, you pillaged and raped them worse than the Muslims ever did when you couldn't destroy the Muslim armies. Protestantism didn't even exist when Constantinople fell. Your actions led to the rise of Protestantism and of the Ottoman Empire. These were problems that Roman Catholics assisted in creating. Then when people complained that maybe, just maybe, perhaps the Bishop of Rome should consider some reforms, "ah well, that's heresy. What you're asking is unacceptable. We need more money to make the Vatican more extravagant and luxurious. That's more important." And then the Roman Catholics complain that Protestants are why we can't take back the East.
Nah fam, it's because no one wanted your inept, oppressive leadership. Funnily enough, even Eastern Orthodox Christians preferred Muslim rule over that of the Roman Catholics.
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922a68 No.854083
>>854061
Meanwhile, the apolitical baptist church founded by Jesus Christ continues to gain converts for Christ using the peaceful methods of Scripture. Gets accused of heresy endlessly by the state churches, who act as their mortal enemy and launch an inquisition against them in the 13th century, but selflessly continues to promote the way of peace found in the New Testament, and acts to keep that Scripture preserved for us today.
>Thus in the year 1536 the Faithful of the Valleys of Piedmont, who were always beseiged and horrified by the Romans, and who had never in successive times declined in their piety, or in their doctrine, sent unto Guillaume Faren at Geneva, who was renowned for his doctrine and piety, two characters, one named Jean Girard, who has since been a printer in said city, and the other, called Martin Gonin, who having been imprisoned on his return to Grenoble, was secretly drowned there on 26 of April, to the chagrin of the Inquisitor, after having so resisted the adversaries of truth that they dared not execute it by day.
Beza, Histoire ecclesiastique des Eglises reformes au Royaume de France, Vol. 1, pp. 38-39.
>The Vaudois, who are so called, from time immemorial in opposition to the abuses of the Roman Church, have been so pursued, not by the sword of the word of God, but by every kind of violence and cruelty, joined with a million slanders and false accusations, forcing them to expand everywhere or to have little, wandering through the deserts like poor wild beasts; always having the Lord preserve and keep their abode, that notwithstanding the rage of the world, they are maintained, as they still are maintained in three countries well removed from each other: some in Calabria, others in Boismé and surrounding countries, and the others in valleys of Piedmont, which have been scattered through the districts of Provence for about two hundred and seventy years, mainly in Merindol, Cabrieres, Lormarin and surrounding neighborhoods.
Beza, ibid., p. 53.
>[1146 AD] They say, Christ sending his disciples to preach, says in the Gospel: 'Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth, and is baptized, shall be saved. But he that believeth not, shall be damned.’ From these words of our Saviour it is plain that none can be saved, unless he believe, and be baptized; that is, have christian faith and receive baptism; Not one of these, but both together equally in both respects, does save: so that infants [infantes], though they be by you baptized, yet since by reason of their age they cannot believe, are not saved. It is therefore an idle and vain thing, for you to wash persons with water, at such a time when you may indeed cleanse their skin from dirt in a human manner, but not purge their souls from sin: But we do stay till the proper time of faith; and when a person is capable to know his God, and believe in him, then we do, not as you charge us, re-baptize him, but baptize him; for he is so to be accounted, as not yet baptized, who is not washed with that baptism, by which sins are done away.
Epistola Sive Tractatus adversus Petrobrusianos Haereticos in Patrologia Latina, Vol. 189, col. 728-729.
>1.6.2 Emperors Honorius and Theodosius to Anthemius, praetorian Prefect.
>If any person shall be discovered to rebaptize anyone of the catholic faith, he, together with him who has permitted this infamous crime provided the person persuaded to be rebaptized be of an age capable of a crime shall be punished by death. Given at Constantinople March 21, 413, C.T. 16.6.6. Revived April 16, 529, C.J. 1.6.2.
Codex Justinianus Book 1, Title 6 (A.D. 529)
>O marvelous! God, by his wise providence has preserved the purity of the Gospel in the Valleys of Piedmont, from the times of the Apostles to our times.
Boyer, Abrege de l'histoire des Vaudois, p. 23. (1691)
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922a68 No.854084
>>854083
A few more quotes to add to the list because my former post was getting long:
>16.6.4 The same Augustuses to Hadrianus, Praetorian Prefect.
>We sanction by this law that if any person should hereafter be discovered to rebaptize, he shall be brought before the judge who presides over the province. Thus, the offenders shall be punished by the confiscation of all their property, and they shall suffer the penalty of poverty, with which they shall be afflicted forever. But if their children dissent from the depravity of the paternal association, they shall not forfeit the paternal inheritance. Likewise, if perchance they have been involved in the perversity of the paternal depravity and prefer to return to the Catholic religion, the right to acquire possession of such property shall not be denied them. (A.D. 405 febr. 12)
Imperatoris Theodosii codex: Book 16, Title 6
>For not so long ago I read the edict of the other prince who lamented the fate of the Anabaptists who, so we read, were pronounced heretics twelve hundred years ago and deserving of capital punishment. He wanted them to be heard and not taken as condemned without a hearing.
Cardinal Stanislaus Hosius (1504-1579), Opera Omnia Coloniae, Epistle 150: Alberto Bauariae Duci, p. 309.
>Of the Baptists it may be said that they are not reformers. These people, comprising bodies of Christian believers known under various names in different countries, are entirely distinct and independent of the Roman and Greek churches, have had an unbroken continuity of existence from Apostolic days down through the centuries. Throughout this long period they were bitterly persecuted for heresy, driven from country to country, disfranchised, deprived of their property, imprisoned, tortured and slain by the thousands, yet they swerved not from their New Testament Faith, Doctrine and Adherence.
William C. King, Crossing the Centuries (1912), p. 174.
>It must have already occurred to our readers, that the baptists are the same sect of Christians which we formerly described under the appellation of ANABAPTISTS. Indeed, this seems to have been their great leading principle from the time of Tertullian to the present day.
The Edinburgh Encyclopedia, Vol 3, p. 251. (1830)
>Here our Anabaptists again disclose their ignorance, when they teach that no one should be compelled to that which is good, or to the faith… They resemble the ancient Anabaptists, the Donatists, in every respect. These were of the opinion, that heretics should be allowed to live without restraint and with impunity in their faith;
Bullinger, Adversus Anabaptistas Libri VI. (1560), p. 181.
>They had a different sense of the Sacraments, of Baptism and the Lord's Supper, as well as respecting marriage, than that which the Roman Church had decided, whom they called the Whore of Babylon, which had left the true faith in Christ: they said that she was like the barren fig-tree, which our Lord Jesus Christ had cursed: they also said, regarding the commandments of the Pope and the Bishops, that they should not be obeyed if they strive against God; also, that Monasticism was a stinking carrion, and that monastic vows are nothing more than a curse, yea, that they foster lasciviousness [sodomije]; also, that the titles and orders of the Priestly dignity are the marks of the great beast: they said that purgatory, masses, church consecrations, worship of the Saints, yearly memorials for the dead, etc., are genuine inventions of the devil. And these were without a doubt the most famous articles that the Fathers of the Oxford Council could not brook, on account of which they scourged and banished them out of their country, yea, let them freeze to death.
Mellinus, A., Eerste deel van het Groot recht-ghevoelende Christen Martelaers-Boeck (Amsterdam, 1619), p. 440.
Any questions, let me know. (also, why does this site keep going down like constantly?)
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22b41f No.854085
>>854084
>no one should be compelled to that which is good, or to the faith
Imagine being such a limp wristed soy boy that you actually believe this.
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000000 No.854086
>>854083
The baptist religion was created by John Smyth, an Anglican cleric, around 1600 or so. It doesn't date back to 33 AD. Everyone knows this. Find a meme with a less obvious deception
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922a68 No.854096
>>854085
Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men. 1 Thessalonians 5
Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12
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922a68 No.854097
>>854096
Oh yes and I forgot one or three.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28:20
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15
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8daecc No.854322
didnt the protestants help'd isis to destroy orthodox churches? i remember reading an article about this some days ago but i cant find it
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7049ab No.854327
>>854096
>>854097
Not one of these scriptures justify allowing heretics to walk free.
>Leviticus 24:16
Moreover, the one who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him. The alien as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.
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93d9a8 No.856569
>>854083
You are protestant.
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