24692b No.853370
Tell me literally 1 (one) good thing he did. I'll wait.
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7b7b9c No.853375
If you are going to call the man a "butcher" in the sense of a murderer, you need to explain why. I looked up John Calvin and he seems to be a simple heretic and not a murderer.
Cite please.
or was he a meat market butcher before he left the church?
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7b7b9c No.853376
>>853371
Links like this are why I never click them.
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908d6d No.853381
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24692b No.853394
>>853375
He burned all kinds of Anabaptists (my peeps) and Michael Servetus
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680f1a No.853396
>>853394
Are you thinking of zurich? That wasnt calvin
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7b7b9c No.853398
>>853394
>Michael Servetus
Thanks for the clues. Wikipedia says Servetus preached against the Trinity and was condemned by both Catholics and Calvinist.
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24692b No.853405
>>853398
maybe he did but it is not Christian to burn people fren, which is exactly why and for numerous other reasons, Catholicism is a false and demonic spoof of christianity. We Anabaptists don't even believe in murder or maiming in self-defense (for Jesus rebuked Peter for cutting off the ear of one of his captors and straightway healed the man).
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24692b No.853408
>>853396
No, if anything Zwingli is associated with the advent of anabaptism.
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3d4a0f No.853409
>>853405
>We Anabaptists don't even believe in murder or maiming in self-defense
Don't appreciate the gesture of pride. It took Christendom centuries for the idea of "Just War" to develop and the amount of Christian battles fought as aggressors as opposed being reactionary or defensive are minimal.
Pacifism in light of the whole of scripture is what's unbiblical.
If your canon of scripture is just Genesis, the 10 commandments, Psalms and the New Testament then that's a major problem.
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24692b No.853410
>>853409
Its like you don't even know what Jesus accomplished.
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7b7b9c No.853448
>>853405
Is it better to burn one heretic or to let him lead a thousand souls to hell?
Was God wicked for the Flood? For the destruction of Sodom? For smiting the wicked sons of Judah for their sins? Was Moses wrong for putting half of the tribes of Israel to death for their worship of the Golden Calf right at the foot of Mount Sinai? Did not God in that last instance work through Moses and Aaron?
For example, we wouldn't be in this sodom of a world if it was not for the wickedness of Martin Luther. He's already in hell and he's dragged a billion souls down there with him.
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5d6722 No.853466
Old Testament is non-canon bro
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545557 No.853545
>>853394
John Calvin was a kik3rinho who put more gas to the fire.
Protestant Calvinists - and also Anabaptists - are practically the Iconoclastic "Christians" from Constantinople, who were constantly rioting and looting Eastern Rite Churches - before Turks invaded Constantinople. In fact, THEY allied with Turks.
What a coincidence that Protestant Reform appears once the Holy Roman Empire became bigger enough to swipe out the Turks from Bizancio. The Protestant factor divided the Holy Roman Empire in half, and they practically ensured that Christians never reconquer Constantinople and Jerusalem.
Great Job (([Protestants])).
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17ef23 No.853565
>>853370
He gave a consistent exegesis of Romans 9.
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000000 No.853581
>>853466
>Old Testament is non-canon bro
To me, this seems obviously wrong. What protestant branch has disposed of the old testament?
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24692b No.853615
>>853448
You would burn Calvin as an heretic anyway. So for you to enter this conversation is completely academic…
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24692b No.853616
>>853565
a consistent exegesis that has no particular relevance to the nation of Israel, even though that is literally where Paul says he has turned his attention? Preposterous.
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557779 No.853618
>>853615
John Calvin was really "good" by killing churches, monasteries, priests, monks, nuns, men, women and children who don't belive on his "teachings".
He was an iconoclastic piece of s— who was a complete SERIAL KILLER
Even in the Holy Inquisition in Spain, they condemned the Witch Hunt, because it was abusive. And ironically, the today's propaganda against the Holy Inquisition, they describe them as how Calvinists, Anabaptists and other Protestants behave.
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24692b No.853621
>>853618
You know the problem with having an argument with yourself? Nobody wins.
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7b7b9c No.853622
>>853621
>ad hom
Are his facts not true? I don't know Calvin. Did he kill "priests, monks, nuns, men, women and children who didn't believe on his "teachings".
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19af90 No.853659
>>853622
>I don't know Calvin
and yet you are speaking very vociferously about him as though, you know something about him.
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7b7b9c No.853662
>>853659
>and yet you are speaking very vociferously about him as though, you know something about him.
If you scan my 5 previous posts, I've asked a question about morals and cited the Wikipedia article about Calvin. I didn't see anything about killing lots of folks in the Wikipedia article.
Why did you make this argument about me? Did cognitive dissonance trigger you to change the subject and accuse me of "speaking vociferously" about Calvin?
I just wanted to know what Calvin really did and I would like a citation to a source where I can check it.
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a6a5df No.853665
>>853662
>>853662
> wikipedia.
Ok, Let's see in Wikipedia.
Oh! Look at that! Muslims and Protestants fought together against the Holy Roman Empire, Against the Papacy and against Spain. Wow… How heroic are the Protestants - specially the Calvinists who heroically destroyed tens of churches, monasteries, seized the Flanders (Netherlands) population… How heroic!
And what a beautiful alliance between Protestants and Muslims. lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_and_Islam
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408593 No.853850
>>853665
Better Turk than papist.
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c4afee No.855339
>>853448
I don't want to be rude but claiming protestants all go to hell is not intelligent and its objectively not true.
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8cc917 No.855345
>>853581
Not him, but he was obviously joking, however there is some truth to what he says.
I interact with a lot of protestants, and when we get into a discussion about what laws they ought to follow, they always say that the "law" has been fulfilled, meaning it is null and void, and by grace alone are we saved.
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c470fc No.855518
>>853398
OMG a Unitarian Credobaptist with a big mouth! Let's forget about making him a Persona Non Grata. Let's arrest him while he's passing by, jail him for 7 years by a legal assumbly that the citizens of Geneva often commit suicide to avoid facing, and slow cook him in green wood for it!
>>853545
Says the ones who excommunicated and made war with the rest of the Pentarchy for wanting a seat of power instead of the seat of honor.
>>853375
He was a masterful organizer. Built Geneza's moral law system with a married church/state. 3 days's jail time for smiling while at a baptism. Those who liked him, loved him. Those who didn't, hated him, and were hated by him. City became a paranoid 1984 tattle-tale town. He believed (like many) that vows make the marriage, not the whole "one-flesh" principle, so "pre-marital" sex was a death penalty.
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ebfa72 No.855519
>>855518
I am a Trinitarian Credobaptist who represents the historical position of holding to the New Testament, and while the unitarian is wrong, so is the state church for giving him a less harsh punishment than God surely would have given him, assuming he had been unrepentant.
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6912cd No.855655
>>853466
>Old Testament is non-canon bro
…and here I was thinking Marcionism had been extinct for 1500+ years.
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408593 No.855658
>>855518
>He believed (like many) that vows make the marriage, not the whole "one-flesh" principle, so "pre-marital" sex was a death penalty.
Stop fornicating and repent
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