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ad460e  No.834733

>And the angel of the LORD said unto her: 'Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son; and thou shalt call his name Ishmael, because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

>And he shall be a wild ass of a man: his hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the face of all his brethren.'

>Genesis 16:11-12

Do these verses bear any relevance to the emergence and conquests of Islam? Also:

>For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

>But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

>which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar -

>Galatians 4:22-24

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5f5fe8  No.834735

Perhaps Paul meant that those born of a bondmaid after the flesh is supposed to be the Old Covenant and the one from the freewoman to be Christians.

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8d2535  No.834737

>>834733

Yes, Ishamel has been known to be the line of Mohammedans for a long time. My grandfather told me about it when I was a wee child.

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9cb867  No.834740

>>834733

Muslims themselves use this verse to an extent.. although they believe the scriptures are corrupt, deny Isaac's importance, and therefore provide the "real" story told by Muhammad. It's a long tale of butthurt.

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ad460e  No.834741

>>834740

But aren't the verses negatively portraying Ishmael and his descendants? They imply that the Ishmaelites will be a war like people. Muslims claim to be Ishmaelites and they are warlike.

>>834735

Muslims pretty much follow the same laws as Jews do with slight variations. They deny the covenant of grace and the redemptive death of Christ.

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c2f9cf  No.834791

>>834741

Yea spot on. Its Ironic, Muhammad tries to broker peace with the Jews and only ends up cementing this age-old prophecy potentially til the day judgement.

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