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>>832458

Pope Francis

"Your prostitution business failed? Here's some money from the hard working faithful."

Where is the repenting of sin? This isn't helping them achieve heaven, this is enabling sin.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/coronavirus-pope-italy-transgender-aid

oof

A Pope shouldn't be just giving money to prostitutes.

Minister to them, yes. Tell them to sin no more, yes. Train them for honest work, yes.

>>832469

>A Pope shouldn't be just giving money to prostitutes

Why not? He's not a Christian. He denies Christ and the Word of God.

>>832536

>Why not? He's not a Christian. He denies Christ and the Word of God.

If what you say is true, Jorge Bergoglio is not the Pope.

It's a logic thing.

Popes can't have committed the sin of heresy, but they do commit other sins.

>>832578

Strongly disagree. Honorius was condemned as a heretic by the 6th Ecumenical Council. Not for teaching heresy, but for simply tolerating it. The fact that his condemnation came after his death is irrelevant to the claim that he cannot be a heretic, especially when an ecumenical council infallibly condemned him as such. Also since it's always popular to claim that it somehow doesn't make him a heretic, here's the quote:

http://www.legionofmarytidewater.com/faith/ECUM06.HTM

>But since from the first, the contriver of evil did not rest, finding an accomplice in the serpent and through him bringing upon human nature the poisoned dart of death, so too now he has found instruments suited to his own purpose—namely … and further Honorius, who was pope of elder Rome, … — and has not been idle in raising through them obstacles of error against the full body of the church sowing with novel speech among the orthodox people the heresy of … leading from there to the blasphemous conclusion that his rationally animate flesh is without a will and a principle of action.

Going by the earth goddess stuff alone Georgie is a manifest heretic and public idolater regardless of who will accept the reality in front of all our faces.

This is just one simple reason out of many why I cannot accept your ecclesiology. Vatican I is considered ecumenical and hence MUST be infallible. Popes have been practicing apostasy and heresy publicly for a long time. Vatican I says this is impossible and hence cannot be true, so by extension Roman Catholicism cannot be true.

You can't get out by dismissing Georgie as a heretic who hasn't been formally condemned yet but lost his office automatically on apostasy since Vatican I requires there to always be a pope until the end of time and the naughty acts have been going on for too long (see Assisi) for there to even still exist a valid mechanism for electing a pope if we were to start applying that standard.

>>832458

>beginning at the eldest

Even boomers in Jesus' day were the biggest sinners.

>>832600

Papism has a way of taking any possible situation and reinterpreting it. The unavoidable problem is that none of their claims have anything to do with the Bible. So, I'm sure you can find plenty of possible headcanon that's made for explaining any possible situation. Those other popes weren't the real ones, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if future papists hold a completely different line of popes that doesn't include what the majority choose today. As all they have to do is retroactively redefine what it means to "really" be in the line of succession, which they are free to do at any time. The crowd can choose whatever manmade authority it wants, because none of it is contained in the Bible.

>>832578

Current pope has said atheists go to heaven based on their good works. He has denied Jesus and the Bible.