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0fe9bb  No.821081

One problem that certain allegedly "christian" sects like Jehovah's Witnesses have with church doctrine is surrounding the immortality of the soul and our heavenly destiny.

When questioned on this, the JW will say "Why were we created on Earth if we were meant to be in heaven? Why not just create us in heaven to begin with?"

This is the usual theme with the JW cult - humanize everything, minimize the spiritual, anything that doesn't make immediate rational sense must be false.

How would you respond to this objection in a way that they can understand? (Remembering that their spiritual/church/historical knowledge is extremely stunted)

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be0544  No.821084

>>821081

Pray the Rosary at them.

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55fa46  No.821103

>>821081

>pic

STOP THIS PORNOGRAPHIC CRINGE RIGHT NOW

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DENY YOURSELF AND CARRY YOUR CROSS NOT MIX CHRISTIANITY WITH YOUR WEEB IMAGEBOARD CULTURE

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0fe9bb  No.821106

>>821103

Christina-tan is not "pornographic". Enough.

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0fe9bb  No.821107

>>821084

That just gets you called an idolater

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ae918b  No.821115

File: 19185f0219104d8⋯.png (98.3 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 19185f0219104d8f0446e53fb0….png)

>>821103

>pic gets deleted

I guess all cartoons are porn now? Deleting that pic was unnecessary and an overreaction.

>>821081

>Why were we created on Earth if we were meant to be in heaven?

They could just ask why we were created in the first place, why God even bothered. The thing is, we may be meant to be in heaven, yet few will make it. The vast majority of us will fail, and by our own choice.

The main problem of the JW, like most protestant sects, is their idolatry of the Bible. They regard it, literally, as the word of God. First there's the fact that the Bible was compiled through tradition, yet they disregard the rest of that tradition. Secondly, you have the issue of the Bible being written in human language, and who could human language contain the full divine message?

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22fe75  No.821117

>>821107

Which is hilarious because those very people idolize the Bible and have never read the Old Testament.

Also, really Mods? There was nothing pornograpic about that Christina meme. for those that didn't see it, it was Christina as a crusader holding up a muslim in a threatening manner, you know something a CRUSADER would do

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885e1e  No.821127

>>821115

>The main problem of the JW, like most protestant sects

Disingenuous. They are not Protestant since they are non-trinitarian.

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be0544  No.821132

>>821127

True they deny the trinity at the very least Prots believe in that.

Also you pray the Rosary at them because the first act is Saying the Apostles Creed. Which they openly deny.

You then say the mysteries that they deny.

The Rosary was literally made to fight heretics.

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0fe9bb  No.821140

>>821115

>>821117

Yeah.. there was nothing pornographic, unwholesome, heretical, or otherwise rule violating anything else about that image. Mods need to lighten the winnie the pooh up.

polite sage

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0fe9bb  No.821142

>>821115

Speaking as a long-since-former JW decades ago, there's no idolatry happening because there is no worship - not even to the level of sola scriptura. That's flatly the wrong term to be using.

That aside, their response there is that God guided the hand of the early church by way of holy spirit when the canon was compiled, bringing holiness out of evil as is done so many times.

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