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>>820971

God willed it.

Because hippie Boomers cannot comprehend the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". They still fuss about Latin Mass, actually… Everyone but me in my Catholic book group is a Boomer, and not long ago they were all complaining about a Latin phrase being used in a book we're studying. "Why did the Church use Latin? Good riddance!", one exclaimed. "Communion on the tongue is gross!", another said. Prideful Boomers demand that Church be all about them; the priest must face the parishioners and not the host, mimicking the priest's actions and hippie hand-holding during the Our Father is encouraged, the only language that may be used is American English, et cetera.

>>820988

There is a Latin Mass about 30 minutes away from me… I've never been, but it sure is tempting.

>>820990

Go and reap the great spiritual reward, assuming it isn't SSPX.

>>820982

Damn that sucks. People aren't vocal about Latin in my Church, they probably don't care. But I feel for you if your Churcjes parishioners are actually vocally against it.

>>820992

Perhaps I will, and no, it isn't SSPX.

>>820996

It's the loud minority saying that stuff, really. There's also people at my Church that receive Communion on the tongue and wear mantillas, but again, they're a minority. I'd say most of the parishioners are politically moderate/conservative-leaning.

>>820973

Or allowed it - I think those are different enough to warrant differentiating.

>>820997

My Priest holds the Latin Mass on Thursday in the middle of the day probably so there is at least one proper Mass held each week for those willing to do what they need to do. But yeah once Sunday rolls around it is NO all the way respectful NO but still. At least the young people at the Church are mostly tradition minded wearing veils and communion on the tongue.

>>820971

Because the laity grew complacent. The generations before the boomers assumed the Church would teach everything the kids needed and neglected to Catachise them properly. Remember it wasn’t just modernist priests it was boomers rebelling against the church that did the real damage.

The Laity has been in soft schism since at least the 60’s only now it is more defined and clear.

Long story short Catachisim begins at home with the parents.

>>821001

Very true.

>>821001

True, that actually reminds me of a small private revelation concerning the Church.

>October 13, 1884, Pope Leo XIII had just finished celebrating Mass in a chapel in the Vatican. At the Mass were a few Cardinals and members of the household staff. Suddenly the Pope stopped at the foot of the altar. He stood there for about 10 minutes, as if in a trance, his face ashen white. The going straightway from the Chapel to his office, he composed the prayer to St. Michael and later issued instructions that it be said after all Low Masses everywhere in the world. He explained that, as he was about to leave the foot of the altar, he had suddenly heard voices – two voices, one kind and gentle, the other guttural and harsh. There he heard the voice of Satan in his pride, boasting to Our Lord: “I can destroy your Church.” The gentle voice of Our Lord: “You can? Then go ahead and do so.” Satan replied, “To do so, I need more time and more power.” The Lord said, “How much time? How much power?” “75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service.” was Satan’s reply. Mysteriously our Lord said, “You have the time, you have the power. Do with them what you will.”

Very famous, reportedly resulted in the prayers after Low Mass. Not sure if this is legitimate or not, but there was something notably evil about the 20th century. Two world wars, Communism, abortion, sexual revolution, people abusing the good things of V2 for their own ends, mass apostasy, sex scandals in the Church, etc. This happening with Leo XIII might be something of an urban legend, but it is something to think about.

>>820992

SSPX is perfectly valid for going to mass as well, despite some uncharitable and sadly openly lying anons trying to keep orthodox theology and Latin Mass away from you.

>>821014

>>821014

Most believe it since there were witnesses to it and Leo himself was a pretty awesome Pope.

>>821015

I assume it is not, the controversey surrounding them seems to not be of God. I sympathize with them though, and my soul would be in agony if I didn't have access to the FSSP.

>>821014

Stories like this give me hope. Satan was given a hundred years and the power he asked for, and while the church may be under vigorous attack, he utterly failed at its destruction.

>>820971

depends if you believe in free will or not.

>>820971

Why did Vatican I have to happen?

>>821025

This look at the resurgence of traditional belief. Return to Sacramentals and the traditional mass if slow is an encouraging thing to see.

The Lord did not reveal himself all at once in the 3rd day he took his time and started slowly.

>>820982

>"Communion on the tongue is gross!", another said.

what the hell? i'm never going back to communion on the hand. i almost dropped the eucharist once because i'm a klutz. if it makes you feel better though, i'm kinda in the same boat. my parish has a literal rock band with drums even. i don't ever go to the masses with them, i go to the evening mass, but sometimes i have to go to the rock band mass and it winnie the pooh sucks.

>>821014

spooky