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12aa3e  No.820598

The miracle of reconverting Russia, Ukraine and Belarus to Orthodox Christianity.

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780ac4  No.820600

>>820598

They’re gonna submit to Rome and you are going to like it.

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12aa3e  No.820603

>>820600

You are going to submit to the judgement of the King of All, whether you like it or not.

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fc3149  No.820608

>>820600

cringe

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12aa3e  No.820609

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GOD IS WITH US

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4b8bc4  No.820611

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its good but nowhere near a 'new jerusalem'

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2fd6c5  No.820617

>>820602

I really hope the mods ban you. Your church is just a bunch of LARPing phyletists. Rome is the only way to salvation, outside of it there is no salvation, schismatic.

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d28f6c  No.820627

>>820617

I really hope the mods ban you. Your church is just a bunch of LARPing trads. Orthodoxy is the only way to salvation, outside of it there is no salvation, schismatic.

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2fd6c5  No.820629

>>820627

Mock me all you want, Satan. The truth is is that you're going to hell unless you submit to Rome.

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4e603b  No.820640

>>820634

He's always like this.

Anytime anytime something nice about EO gets posted, this butthurt faggot posts some decade old map, and screams how it aint so nice.

Its gotten so repetitive, i once predicted he's about to come do it, 2 posts before he did.

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1f142e  No.820641

>>820600

/thread

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695c94  No.820642

>>820640

He might just be possessed then.

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780ac4  No.820664

>>820602

>some video

Or

>the Holy Mother of God literally coming and telling us Russia will Submit to Rome

From second message of Fátima.

>If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.

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12aa3e  No.820728

You devils have banished the Holy Spirit from your hearts. Lord have mercy.

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d5305e  No.820877

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>>820664

Your "objection" was literally addressed by the video you dismissed, lmao. The lady of Fatima was confirmed to be taking about Russia becoming Orthodox again. But of course, no catholics close to the matter like to admit that in public.

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780ac4  No.820879

>>820877

Then why would she tell the Catholics and not the Orthodox?

Also why would Russia need to become Orthodox again at a time when it was entirely Orthodox? Russia when the Apparaition happened was one of the largest Orthodox Countries in the world?

Why would Mary need to convert a people who were already converted?

I don’t need to watch the video to say that makes no sense. Sure Russia has had a renewal of faith but the Prophecy has not been fulfilled. Which she said within the Prophecy IT WOULD BE FULFILLED.

The Pope Consecrated the Whole World not Russia. It’s like asking your priest to pray to bless your sick child and he blesses all the sick children in the room. Sure he did it but it wasn’t what you asked for and the blessing is not as strong as if he blessed your son specifically.

Mary wants the Pope and all the Bishops to offer up Mass for the conversion of Russia.

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d5305e  No.820886

>>820879

>Then why would she tell the Catholics and not the Orthodox?

What does it matter? Is unification suddenly not a goal for you guys anymore?

>Also why would Russia need to become Orthodox again at a time when it was entirely Orthodox?

Are you saying the mother of God would've been unable to see into the future and allude to the devastating long-term effects communism would have on the country, which it still hasn't fully recovered from?

>I don’t need to watch the video to say that makes no sense.

It doesn't matter whether you think it makes sense or not anon, that came directly from the girls that witnessed the theotokos in the first place.

>Which she said within the Prophecy IT WOULD BE FULFILLED.

And what do you think is happening with Russia right now? Either you're calling the girls of Fatima liars, or implying something far worse.

>Mary wants the Pope and all the Bishops to offer up Mass for the conversion of Russia.

So reunification, as implied by your first question. The only difference is, that it implies Rome will reject its heresies and become Orthodox again. Why would the Orthodox need to experience the vision if they're already in good standing with the holy virgin? Nobody outside Orthodoxy would listen or pay attention to her if that were the case. Seems like she was kindly granting you guys a helping hand to inspire you to move in the right direction.

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4c928a  No.821037

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>>820879

>>820886

>arguing over if Russians will become RC or Orthodox;

One of the Fatima girls said they'd become Uniates, another said they'd return to the Orthodox Church.

Maybe one option is true.

Maybe both.

I know some prophecies on both sides speak of the Reunification of the Churches, so maybe it's tied to that.

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93f456  No.821038

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>>820598

Don't fall for Russian state propaganda. Russia is the most atheist country in the world, beating France and Germany by far. Kremlin tries to push the idea that it's the defender of the faith to westerners, mainly American protestants, but in Russia the people are apathetic and the churches are empty. I don't blame them though, i would have serious doubts myself if i knew that my Patriarch was a KGB agent that lives in luxury while the population is starving.

https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/unknown-stage-party-in-swimsuits-on-patriarch-kirill-s-yacht/

Seriously, the Russian church haven't learned anything from 1917 and it's ironic because all high ranking bishops used to be agents of the KGB and 70% of the population misses the days of Stalin. Islam on the other hand is on the rise.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/16/stalins-approval-rating-among-russians-hits-record-high-poll-a65245

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/russias-real-reasons-partnering-iran-66937

Ukraine doesn't need any reconversion btw. Ukrainians are very pious believers despite Russia's war on them. But Ukrainian faith is exactly strong because they don't want anything to do with Russia.

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93f456  No.821039

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93f456  No.821040

This year, only 4,3 million Russians celebrated Pascha (Russian population is 144,5 million so around 3% of all Russians)

https://xn--b1aew.xn--p1ai/news/item/16714044/?fbclid=IwAR1MvEJoRPa_awi6euUriXA5Ns_kikrI1HyRYSHUn7oy3qhm-_fD7a17Mz8

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93f456  No.821042

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And while the number of believers is extremely small, the state keeps bulding empty churches and presenting that as a flourishing of faith.

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91f544  No.821047

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e9b557  No.821058

>>821038

>>821042

>But Ukrainian faith is exactly strong because they don't want anything to do with Russia.

The church that I visit (outside Russia) has priests, deacons, cantors of various slavic ethnicity (Ukrainian included) and even American priest (he went back to US though). The matter of the church is the matter of faith, not worldly politics and the question of where is the seat of faith and where is the centre of church; and the faith is still going strong both within and outside Russia. We chose our denomination based on faith and belief, not which nation is the host or the seat.

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43e37e  No.821059

>>820886

It matters because how Reunification happens and you know it.

Don’t misrepresent me the Mother of God knew all those things obviously because she tells us they were going to happen.

Follow me in this.

>Russia is massive EO Country

>not in Communion with Rome

>Mary goes to the Catholics

>Mary warns the Catholics about Communisim and WW2

>tells The Pope and his Bishops to Consecrate Russia so she will be converted

>says if the Pope does is in time Eastern Orthodox Russia will be spared from Communisim and Converted again what is she converting them to if the whole country is EO

>she then implies she knows the Pope will fail to do this

>Mary then guarantees after great suffering and the blood of innocent martyrs being spilled that the previous thing the said about Russia

>that she would do even if Communisim failed would still happen

>Rome will reject its heresies and Become Orthodox again

Sure but remember the Holy Virgin repeatedly says remain loyal to your superior. And the Superior of the Other Churches was always Rome. Just a Peter was always the Superior of the Apostles.

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93f456  No.821071

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>>821058

>The matter of the church is the matter of faith, not worldly politics

True, but for the Russian church it's 100% politics and no faith. The Eucharist for them is just a tool for political alliances and pressure. That's the reason why atheism runs rampant in Russia, because the people don't see faith anywhere. That's also the reason why in Ukraine things are different, because they want to stay away from this blasphemous situation Putin and Kirill have created. It's about faith and not about the country.

>the faith is still going strong both within and outside Russia

Right now, the muslims in Russia might be on par with the Orthodox

>>821040

4,3 million Russians celebrated Easter in 2019 (out of 144 millions). 50% of Russians don't know what Easter is about>>821039

Maybe Kirill should stop harassing Orthodox people in other countries and start taking care of his own country otherwise in a few decades he won't have a flock at all and his Orthodox Vatican will be useless.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/06/27/russian-church-plans-2-bln-orthodox-vatican-a66182

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93f456  No.821072

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ed4318  No.821113

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>>821037

>I know some prophecies on both sides speak of the Reunification of the Churches, so maybe it's tied to that.

Personally, St. Malachy's prophecy (and it's connection to the 3rd secret of Fatima, see vid related) makes me suspect that whatever happens to Russia, they probably won't become "Catholic" as we currently understand it. That prophecy is unusually accurate and on the verge of completion, implying that something big is going to change with the structure of the Catholic church somehow in the not too distant future, and I don't think it would make any sense for Russia to convert to something that's just about to have the rug pulled underneath it.

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