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6411d4  No.819177

>“And so we can now say that the goal of worship and the goal of creation as a whole are one and the same—divinization, a world of freedom and love. But this means that the historical makes its appearance in the cosmic. The cosmos is not a kind of closed building, a stationary container in which history may by chance take place. It is itself movement, from its one beginning to its one end. In a sense, creation is history. Against the background of the modern evolutionary world view, Teilhard de Chardin depicted the cosmos as a process of ascent, a series of unions. From very simple beginnings the path leads to ever greater and more complex unities, in which multiplicity is not abolished but merged into a growing synthesis, leading to the “Noosphere”, in which spirit and its understanding embrace the whole and are blended into a kind of living organism. Invoking the epistles to the Ephesians and Colossians, Teilhard looks on Christ as the energy that strives toward the Noosphere and finally incorporates everything in its “fullness’. From here Teilhard went on to give a new meaning to Christian worship: the transubstantiated Host is the anticipation of the transformation and divinization of matter in the christological “fullness”. In his view, the Eucharist provides the movement of the cosmos with its direction; it anticipates its goal and at the same time urges it on.”

~Pope B16, "Spirit of the Liturgy"

>“Only where someone values love more highly than life, that is, only where someone is ready to put life second to love, for the sake of love, can love be stronger and more than death. If it is to be more than death, it must first be more than mere life. But if it could be this, not just in intention but in reality, then that would mean at the same time that the power of love had risen superior to the power of the merely biological and taken it into its service. To use Teilhard de Chardin’s terminology, where that took place, the decisive complexity or “complexification” would have occurred; bios, too, would be encompassed by and incorporated in the power of love. It would cross the boundary—death—and create unity where death divides. If the power of love for another were so strong somewhere that it could keep alive not just his memory, the shadow of his “I”, but that person himself, then a new stage in life would have been reached. This would mean that the realm of biological evolutions and mutations had been left behind and the leap made to a quite different plane, on which love was no longer subject to bios but made use of it. Such a final stage of “mutation” and “evolution” would itself no longer be a biological stage; it would signify the end of the sovereignty of bios, which is at the same time the sovereignty of death; it would open up the realm that the Greek Bible calls zoe, that is, definitive life, which has left behind the rule of death. The last stage of evolution needed by the world to reach its goal would then no longer be achieved within the realm of biology but by the spirit, by freedom, by love. It would no longer be evolution but decision and gift in one.”

~Pope B16, "Introduction to Christianity"

>To return to our argument, love is the foundation of immortality, and immortality proceeds from love alone. This statement to which we have now worked our way also means that he who has love for all has established immortality for all. That is precisely the meaning of the biblical statement that his Resurrection is our life. The—to us—curious reasoning of St. Paul in his First Letter to the Corinthians now becomes comprehensible: if he has risen, then we have, too, for then love is stronger than death; if he has not risen, then we have not either, for then the situation is still that death has the last word, nothing else (cf. 1 Cor 15:16f.).

Since this is a statement of central importance, let us spell it out once again in a different way: Either love is stronger than death, or it is not. If it has become so in him, then it became so precisely as love for others. This also means, it is true, that our own love, left to itself, is not sufficient to overcome death; taken in itself it would have to remain an unanswered cry. It means that only his love, coinciding with God’s own power of life and love, can be the foundation of our immortality. Nevertheless, it still remains true that the mode of our immortality will depend on our mode of loving.”

~Pope B16, "Introduction to Christianity"

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6411d4  No.819178

>>819177

What do you think of the influence of the theory of evolution and it's relation to Christian theology? Are we evolving towards a point in time in which Christ will be recognized in creation as more real than any other reality itself? What of the Noosphere, and the deep human interconnection we all have, with the "great cloud of witnesses," "communion of the Saints," "being of one mind with Christ," and so on? A quote about that of the theology of Fr. Emile Mersch:

>“One of the most distinctive and valuable insights of our modern age is our hard-won sense of our own personalities. It is a sense of subjectivity that allows us to uphold the rights of the individual in the face of any larger community. Yet if we are not careful, it can obscure an equally profound truth of how much we are part of the human community without which we cannot properly develop. It was Emile Mersch who pursued the natural, or metaphysical unity of the human race the farthest. The universe, itself, culminated in human beings, and we would need to take into account the entire universe, he felt, in order to get some idea of what it truly means to be human. But it was necessary to go farther, still. The human soul, in virtue of its very nature, indeed, of its very self-consciousness which makes us most distinctly who we are as individuals, at the very same time is our deepest bond with other people. The human spirit has inscribed within it a dynamism that drives it to embrace the universe around it and all other human beings. If we were to try to sum up all this in one image we could say that if we were to take the entire universe that we see spread out across billions of miles of space and billions of years of time, and if we were to take all the human beings that ever existed, and will ever exist, and concentrate them both into one point, this would give us a sense of what it means to be truly human. This is the kind of humanity that we carry in the depths of our souls. Mersch took this profound sense of human unity, and saw it as the cosmic human nature, as it were, that was elevated, transformed and intensified by its assumption by the Word. This gave him an organic way of understanding just how and why the universe can be said to be summed up in Christ. Christ is not added from without, but emerges from within, and becomes the very way in whom the universe comes together and in whom we find our union with God and with each other.”

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592421  No.819358

>>819178

Bump for intrigue. I've never heard of Teilhard de Chardin before, I'll have to get his works.

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6411d4  No.819359

>>819358

They're old enough to be online free (check the links in this post: https://archive.org/details/ThePhenomenonOfMan), "The Phenomenon of Man" and "The Divine Milieu" are the most important ones, and are considered his masterpieces. He is a controversial figure, with a warning issued against his works (but no cited reasons why) still on him. Despite this, Pope B16, Paul VI, JP2, Francis, and many, many, theologians support and have used his work to form Catholic theology. He is hated by anti-evolution Christians, and by secular evolutionist since he pretty much posits that evolution has its end in God. He is hated by those who misinterpret his works (they should be seen in the light of B16 I'd say), and call him a heretic, but loved by others. He didn't even get published until after his death. Despite this, I (and clearly the Popes) think his vision of the universe has merit.

This here defends his orthodoxy and presents his vision, especially through B16's theology: https://teilhard.com/2013/05/21/orthodoxy-of-teilhard-de-chardin-part-i/ And this presents the idea of the "noosphere" that we are in some way connected to: https://teilhard.com/2013/08/13/the-noosphere-part-i-teilhard-de-chardins-vision/ (think of it less as some kind of "we are all literally one soul" hippie drama and more like we are the cells that form a body, and this body is moving somewhere, being drawn by someone, Teilhard would say that it is God drawing it, others would say it is nothingness. Just like we are the "members of Christ body" as Christians, this is pretty much the same idea. Note: we, like as members of Christ body, retain our full individuality, and aren't like a drop in the ocean, but a unique crystal in God's own crown.)

Good luck on your reading anon, and God bless.

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592421  No.819386

>>819359

God bless, anon. Yeah I ordered those two books once I read your OP. I fancy that evolution is fake and gay because of the very serious and fundamental problems it poses to the Christian faith, but I'd like to hear his case. When I read that he sees mankind as continually evolving my liberal radar pinged and he being a Frenchman and a Jesuit didn't help his case. Nonetheless I look forward to diving into his work.

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fbb892  No.819527

File: 5d9a9886a70d475⋯.gif (1.21 MB, 728x408, 91:51, Confused dogger.gif)

>>819526

What am I even reading here?

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c11f80  No.819548

File: 5d6bf3aea4c1fa4⋯.gif (7.2 MB, 540x360, 3:2, download.gif)

>>819527

Make sense once you reverse image search this and find it's rather popular with a bunch of Gnostic sites. Seems to also be used recently to portray the ideas in "Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz", a 1600s book that started the "Rosicrucian" movement, a Christian Kabbalah/alchemy fraternity of that time, which would also explain why this image is popular with the Gnostics today.

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6a6ff6  No.819582

Teilhard is cancerous and probably heretic.

But evolution of life is philosophically tenable and compatible with Catholicism, as long as it respects the Revelation.

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70f64e  No.819594

>>819359

It's my understanding that Teilhard denied the supernatural, and claimed that God Himself was somehow a product of evolution. It may be acceptable to take an allegorical view of Genesis, but to deny that God is supernatural and immutable is rank heresy and nonsense. His works should generally be avoided.

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1f3152  No.819595

>>819548

Ah shit they found this place again

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32594e  No.819598

>>819582

>>819594

Tell me more about him

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6411d4  No.819600

>>819594

He clearly didn't believe this, but ok. Have you read his works yourself, in context? Or the writings of popes about him? Try this: https://teilhard.com/2013/05/21/orthodoxy-of-teilhard-de-chardin-part-i/

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32594e  No.819618

Just saw the intro to The Phenomenon of Man was written by Julius Huxley who was a close friend of Teilhard's. This is very bad news.

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70f64e  No.819621

>>819600

>When our talk touched on St. Augustine, he exclaimed violently: 'Don’t mention that unfortunate man; he spoiled everything by introducing the supernatural.'"

From the man's own lips, he thought he knew better than the greatest Church Father and denied the existence of the supernatural. That right there is enough to ensure that I'll avoid his works like the plague til the end of time.

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70f64e  No.819626

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>819598

Father Chad Ripperger does a brief biography of him in this video.

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54fdab  No.821322

>>819177

>Excommunicated by Pius XII

>Excommunication lifted by John XXIII

This is all you need to know, but if you want more he was a globalist in league with the Anglo naturalists and transhumanists of his day. He was a friend of Julius Huxley ffs.

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