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>>816767

Orthodox here. But I don't post much because the mods tend to ban non-Catholics. please don't ban me for an observation

>>816768

Ok. Are you a convert?

>>816771

Born into it mate. :)

I am a convert. I converted to Orthodoxy because after reviewing the ecumenical councils and Church Fathers etc. I believe that the Orthodox understanding of the primacy of Rome in the early Church is true. I see the Papal dogmas of Vatican 1 and others as contradicting with the actions and statements of the early Church.

If you want to know why I abandoned Protestantism in favor of an Apostolic faith than thats a different matter entirely.

>>816780

> because after reviewing the ecumenical councils and Church Fathers

Oh ok so you read none of them.

Baptized Orthodox as a child. Didn't really believe or go to Church often until recently.

Thought intensely about other denominations. Turns out I was in the correct one all along.

>>816784

>Oh ok so you read none of them

Why even post this? How do you insult someone into converting?

Do you know this anon? Do you know for a fact that he's never read vatican 1? No you don't, but you still make baseless accusations. But instead of asking him what specifically he disagreed about with vatican 1 in order to create a dialogue you created insults and slander. Well done.

polite sage for off topic

I'm an Orthodox convert, I was baptized last year. I wasn't consciously looking to join the church but I was interested by what little I had seen of Orthodoxy and there was a nearby parish that I wanted to check out. Once I finally made it to a service, I enjoyed it so much that I wanted to keep going back. I became a catechumen before too long and was baptized a year later.

33yo atheist until about 5 years ago been going to greek orthodox church on and off for about 2 years

went to one catechism class then got sick and gave up but now i'm not in a hurry to get baptised

if i find a fiancé we can do catechism classes and get baptised together

orthodox church is The Church that was established by Jesus Christ and you just have to look at history to confirm it

I was baptized in the OCA this year. I have been going on and off for the past 3-4 years. Grew up irreligious. Made more sense than Catholicism regarding the Pope, the Church, the Priesthood, and the Deaconite.

The biggest deterrent to Catholicism wasn't any of these points for me, but the assertion that Latin is the language of the Lord that is incredibly common in the more traditionally minded Catholics. I've heard the argument " it's good because it's a dead language so the meaning of words can't change" used seriously before. It's more in line to believe that the rites would be performed in the native tongue (as every other Church did before the schism). The Church should reflect the nation it nurses, this means extolling its virtues, working through their vices, and bringing the good traditions into it. It should also offer services in their tongue. A prayer you don't understand is meaningless. I would've become Anglican, but the more I compared the two I could not help but think that the Anglicans should have turned Orthodox.

The Orthodox Church is not without error throughout history, no church could ever claim to be spotless the sect of Catholics who try desperately to defend everything they teach and have taught us particularly annoying, but so to do the Orthodox find that with Moscow. I feel as if I'm one of the few who do not like the Russian Church all that much. The politics involved there over-ride the Truth at times and that's the same attitude that gets us into trouble.

>>816839

>The Church should reflect the nation it nurses

>A prayer you don't understand is meaningless

>no church could ever claim to be spotless

cool so where's the Church Father writings that say this

Former (cradle) Catholic, just became an Orthodox catechumen this year, but still in the process of converting. This was a direct result of studying for myself the doctrines of all the major denominations, Judaism, much early church history, and a lot of the church fathers, over the course of a couple years. Basically, I realized that the RCC didn't live up to its unique claims, and that Orthodoxy not only had a better system ensuring stability/survival, but also proved it by managing to maintain the most continuity with the original Jewish traditions. Meanwhile, Protestantism was interesting in its own way, but misrepresented early church history too often to be taken seriously.

Here are some helpful resources to get you started if you're interested:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbDsxw-e0m3mIkapUEZ_-5BEOr19F4t73

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0g7Y7uKp4egFoGQTB9jLgmF1tpbN-Od6

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKXGJjRU-bTV8i7pQ700Z4Jkw0WN1djiO

https://youtu.be/sxAzBOrtaRY

https://youtu.be/f3PGARSJeNU

https://youtu.be/713jhGWpiv4

https://youtu.be/y6zXs_cUSjQ

https://youtu.be/47XSHu617hM

https://youtu.be/biNNv68ON4U

https://youtu.be/R7RSd5kLd2w

https://youtu.be/R-s8v81ZkeU

https://youtu.be/DyuvkoiYlYk

https://youtu.be/Bqm8pt21cYg

https://youtu.be/SvEX15vd82w

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/texts/Bulgakov_VaticanDogma.html

http://www.impantokratoros.gr/PaulBallaster_Convolier.en.aspx

http://www.golubinski.ru/ecclesia/primacy.htm

http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/Guettee_ThePapacy.pdf

http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/twopaths.aspx

http://www.stmaryorthodoxchurch.org/orthodoxy/articles/ancestral_versus_original_sin

http://www.oodegr.com/english/filosofia/nihilism_root_modern_age.htm

>>816844

>also proved it by managing to maintain the most continuity with the original Jewish traditions.

>implying being judaizers is good

watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl3pD4l0K5U

Orthodox conception of God is the only one that makes sense to me. A resolution of the simplicity and multiplicity of the creator explained by the essence energy distinction. Catholics and Protestants think of God as just a giant monad blob at which point you may as well be a perennialist (as I used to be before discovering the true religion)

I'm Orthodox. I converted and am currently a catechumen with the OCA, so Russian/American. I probably first heard about Orthodoxy (and noticed it) here. I remember being impressed by one Orthobro detailing the doctrine of hell. He was incredibly calm and the post was filled with such a wisdom that I couldn't ignore it. When I accepted Apostolic Succession as, you know, a good thing, I began to discern between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. (I felt very drawn to the Theotokos at this time, bless Her.) It was ultimately the historical argument and the impression I got from reading that one anon's post and the other Orthodox theology I had read around here. And so I begame.