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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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fc3f7e  No.809920

Polish documentary Tell No One stuns nation, as it shines light on the extent of the abuse within the Catholic Church in Poland

0322cf  No.809936

>>809935

Much of the abuses in the Catholic Church were exposed due to lawsuits. The Church has deep pockets, which motivates the suits (not that this means the plaintiffs are just after money, but most would not bother with emotionally and financially draining lawsuits otherwise). But insurance agencies don't report higher rates of abuse by Catholic clergy: Of course the Catholic Church is the largest and would therefore have the largest number of cases, so it would look to the casual observer like a pattern. This helped feed the journalistic frenzy (and public ignorance) around the issue. An independent review showed about 3% of priests in a fifty year period had been accused of "sexual misconduct". Based on insurance company reports, the Protestant figure is likely somewhat higher. Orthodox and Hasidic Jews have been implicated in hushing up their own sexual abuse problems. Secular institutions have also shown patterns of abuse–famously, Penn State, where there was no gay mafia keeping the information secret. Schools have experienced problems with teacher-student impropriety, including of course married teachers. The Boy Scouts, which have tried to keep gays out of the organization, have also had problems. Gays themselves don't monopolize molestation, and a large percentage of child sexual abuse cases involve heterosexuals and/or indeterminate orientation–i.e. someone with access to children who is indifferent as to which sex he molests. You see sexual abuse where there is access, and abusers pursue positions where they will have access. Generally, child abusers don't rely on environments where they know everyone around will back them up–they manipulate and abuse their victims in secret and pressure them to remain silent. Setting aside all that, it is very weak to decide the Church should abandon a tradition of many centuries that it considers significant due to a few headlines and your supposition that married priests would be swell. It's a sign of the times.


c60ae2  No.809939

>>809936

A priest should be the imitation of Christ, the same does not apply to Jews, or boy scouts, or any other laity organization. If the sins of a church are comparable to the sins of a laity organization then it has just as much of the Holy Spirit, and it can barely be called a church.


0322cf  No.809942

File: fbcb9004808183a⋯.png (1.49 MB, 1197x1145, 1197:1145, ArchbishopJohnHughes.png)

>>809939

So we Donatist now?


3ab5fb  No.809943

>>809936

It does the Catholic Church no favors to hide abuse, no matter how small a portion it may be. Such a priest has instantly disqualified himself and holds no validity. He has abused his flock. Of course, this is applicable to many institutions, but the Catholic Church is singled out precisely because it is such a massive organization. If it turns out that, say, Wells-Fargo was committing mass money-laundering schemes globally, I would expect serious repercussions from the people and government. I wouldn't want a casual joke and a slap on the wrists, go about your day attitude. I would want it to end. Now the real question is, what is the validity of the abuse? How can we trust the Catholic Church to be objective in its findings? How can we trust the government to be objective? Society? This issue needs to be seriously addressed, and I hope that the Catholics come through with a good answer that everyone can benefit from it. The Catholic Church has overcome corrupt and greedy popes before, certainly it is within them to overcome this.


c60ae2  No.809944

>>809942

Donatism dealt with the question of priests that had formerly collaborated with an evil government. We are all sinners, but unbelievers sin more severely and extensively than believers.


0322cf  No.809946

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>>809943

A lot of this is due to the "mercy" idolatry that has come with the "spirit of Vatican II". (It has even manifested in our devotions, where the modern (ie, in Churches that don't even have crucifixes) Divine Mercy is preferred over the traditional Sacred Heart.) The 1917 Canon Law, I believe, instantly defrocked an abuser priest. Now, we just need to focus on "mercy" because Jesus loves everyone–there are some actions so depraved (pederasty on pre-pubescent boys) that they should be punished with a grievous and powerful censure. In other words, you have given up your right to serve Christ's Church. Saint Pius V said to put them to death…


3ab5fb  No.809951

>>809946

I pray that God may guide your Church through these troubling times. It is truly awful that unworthy men are allowed to abuse innocents and remain priests. How can that be seen as merciful? Is it merciful to the children who must continually suffer? Is it merciful to the families who suffer with their children? Is it merciful to charge a sinful man who struggles greatly to submit his sins to Christ with guiding a flock of other sinners?


803f22  No.809986

More dumb propaganda. Polish authorities should burn this movie




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