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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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eb9842  No.809279

So Jesus died for our sins yeah?

Then why do we still suffer original sin?

Genuinely curious.

0b4f5c  No.809281

>>809279

Please read the entire bible again. He died so that everyone would be forgiven for their sins if they repented.


dc6e3b  No.809282

>>809279

Baptism, by imparting the life of Christ's grace, erases original sin and turns a man back towards God, but the consequences for nature, weakened and inclined to evil, persist in man and summon him to spiritual battle. (CCC 405)


777323  No.809285

>>809279

Original sin is not some primal type of "force" instilled in us. There is only mortality and death, which were the curse of Adam's original sin. And all of our own sins are a result of the mortality we all inherit. All of them. Every single one. Every single sin is due to a mistake in survival tactics, and wrongly trying to improve our lives and escape the curse of death (through pleasure, security, crushing others to get ahead). Sin still exists because death exists. And why it will continue until the resurrection, when things are finally made new. This unfortunately doesn't change overnight even for a Christian. Even St. Paul grieved over "what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I" (Romans 7:15) because he lived "in this body of death". Mortality compels us into the sinful corners of life, even when our spiritual life is awake to something better and doesn't want these things.

But,,, you can die in this life and experience the first resurrection here and now, through Jesus Christ and baptism. Baptism is dying now and reaping the benefits here and now. The flesh will still be weak, but the spirit will be strong (Matthew 26:41) in guiding our lives from that point. This is what Paul meant by encouraging us to "walk in the Spirit" (Galatians 5:16). Instead of following Adam in the power of death, we follow Christ in the power of life.

And yes, this is a process. Wash the idea out of your head that salvation is a past event/one time thing. It's constantly ongoing, and past, present, and future. Saying it's only in the past and you should already be fixed is not going to help anything. And if you keep treating sin with this mysterious power, it especially won't help anything. Focus on the powers of life and death instead. Think about why Christ is called the second Adam.


d47b32  No.809311

Original sin is magic. Baptism and sin are measurable. Do people sin less after being baptized?


a4615c  No.809333


0188b5  No.809370

Bro this is basically Romans 7, read it yo


d9419e  No.809521

Regeneration changes the soul and saves it, but we're still in the flesh which is still drowsed in sin. So for now we undergo a slow process of being made holy, called sanctification. We're only going to face total full freedom from sin when we die and ascend to heaven, where God is going to clean us from our sins.




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