3b3221 No.801809[Last 50 Posts]
Is it alright for us Christians to play violent video games? I don't want to hurt anyone in real-life, i see violent video games as only a bit of fun. (pic related I've spent a good amount of my free time in this game)
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ea5e9e No.801814
I play them so I'm biased to favor yes. There is a lot of violence in the old testament that God himself commands and does, but isn't something that he thinks is great because it creates suffering and destruction. For example he loved David and guided him in battle, but his son Solomon had to construct the temple because he was a violent King. Now in videogames you don't commit violence you simulate it, which causes no suffering or destruction. You shouldn't however be addicted to videogames as they can ruin your life. I have friends that have 0 fun playing "competitive" games and are ridiculously toxic, which I don't think it's healthy either. Really the only thing obviously wrong is that we could use the time to be productive in a more meaningful way.
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eccd00 No.801830
I won't say yes or no, but I will advise you that whatever you put into your eyes and ears will affect your thoughts, words, and actions. I'm not saying that violent video games make people violet, but to suggest that they have no impact on you is folly.
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dcf623 No.801838
>Pyro
Patrician choice, my friend.
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f46e65 No.801846
>>801809
It's not good to play video games if they're anti-Christianity. I notice that a lot of JRPG fans are atheists who lost their faith because of games like FF7
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3b3221 No.801849
>>801846
I know you never said anything about TF2 but TF2 has nothing against Christianity https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/1/12/Engineer_taunts08.wav
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f46e65 No.801852
>>801849
I know, that's why I mentioned JRPGs.
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3b3221 No.801855
>>801852
Also could you give me some more info on the whole "JRPG anti-Christian" thing? Just curious
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ed77e6 No.801865
>>801846
Why FF7? I only remember it being pantheistic with its Lifestream thing. FF has been very antitheistic/anti-Christian since 10 though except for FF15, which surprised me with its Christian themes and imagery.
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dcf623 No.801874
>>801855
Not him, but nips seem a bit obsessed with "spooky" church-like settings. You can see that in games like Demon's Souls.
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163676 No.801891
>>801874
I think this comes more from an infatuation with the relatively mysterious and exotic western medieval culture which contained Christianity. I don't think that they're really trying to comment on Christianity at all, they just appreciate a certain anesthetic.
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6fa83b No.801892
>>801809
>pyro player
based but sniper is best class:^)
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0c495f No.801913
>>801892
sniper mains aren't people
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a80a3c No.801975
>tf2
do people still play tf2?
i've been wanting to go back but all my friends move on to overgay, and I dont like that shit so I'm playing quake now.
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9d2e3f No.801976
>>801975
Ahh quake
*sip*
Now that's a real game
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3b3221 No.801978
>>801975
https://steamcharts.com/top It's still alive and well, though it's community is filled with zoomers with twitter meme binds who are just obnoxious and annoying
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026ba1 No.802011
I play either grand strategy games or these. Played TF as Medic and Sniper, now playing overwatch as Mercy and Ashe. So as other anon said, I'm kind of biased but yes.
Though you can encounter a very toxic community sometimes, so you must simply ignore them and try not to get angered. Actually, that may be a good exercise for that.
>>801913
wrong
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b8b13d No.802020
>>801809
I think we would all be better off without these violent things in our mind, but I don't think it's a sin to view them. I would certainly avoid things like mortal combat though.
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a8b7a4 No.802060
>Psalm 101:3 - I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Personally I avoid almost any game involvong killing human beings, especially on modern consoles. I’ll play the Legend of Zelda and other such games on NES, SNES, and game boy, and games where you’re killing monsters robots etc.
After getting serious about Christianity I sold my PS4 and took all of the violent games off of steam. I really miss Goldeneye, my favorite game of all time, and the Star Wars games, though sometimes I’ll play the old Battlefront 2 against the droids. For the most part I just stick to Nintendo, somewhat begrudgingly.
This all might sound bizarre or lame, but I feel like Christianity is about making sacrafice for God’s sake. It can be good for your mind and spirit to recreationally set your eyes on human death and suffering. Maybe I’m right and maybe not, but I know God appreciates my willingness to give up what I love in my efforts to please him and keep his commandments.
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026ba1 No.802061
>>802060
Nobody will say that what you did is bad, but wargames were played since time immemorial by the military
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c6dea2 No.802065
How about playing as a bagan or muslim in CK2
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6fa83b No.802081
>>802065
absolutely unnaceptable. The only real christian way to play CK2 is pic related.
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1dcb37 No.802104
>>802081
Good ol Crusader Kings 2. Those were the days.
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026ba1 No.802127
>>802081
Yet another reason to BEGOME ORDODOX :DDD
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18ffd3 No.802152
>>802081
>Mein Kaiser, ze Saracens had internal strife recently and are weakened, while we were Crusading against them. Zis is ze ideal time to finally reclaim ze Holy Land in ze name of Jesus, ja?
<Nein, lets just go back home.
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47edf6 No.802154
Context matters in such case… the type of violence, how and towards whom/what is expressed… in DooM (the original) you are slaying the literal legions of Hell brought on Mars and our world due to mankind’s hubris: in that case, it’s a justified and righteous violence in line with what the game tells your enemies are and why you ought to slay them.
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391cdd No.802158
Do you people seriously believe you'll have a sitdown with Jesus and discuss whether you picked the right faction in Age of Empires or whether it was just to kill virtual pixels because they were of demonic origin? Wow.
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ab36a8 No.802160
>>801809
It's pixels. It's meaningless.
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47edf6 No.802161
>>802158
One thing is being scrupulous and another is asking questions; this topic for now seems not too much scrupulous.
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3b3221 No.802185
>>802060
Just wondering but what counts as "human"? Do you judge on appearance or is it alright if the lore says it's not human?
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8030ee No.802397
>>802185
I thought the metro cops were just sellout humans though?
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80748f No.802404
Use your conscience OP. At the very least, stuff like Mortal Kombat and Dead Space should be considered tasteless. The best videogames don't even have gore anyway.
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23c3aa No.802411
I vaguely remember reading a second century, christian apologetic that said Christians don't even stand the site of blood.
The church has changed, I guess.
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3d7633 No.802430
>>802411
That's about pagan sacrificial sites. Large portion, if not the majority of the early Christians were Roman milutary
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fce910 No.802467
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[Serious] Is it a sin to kill people inside a Church as long it's in a video game?
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39ff3c No.802477
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>>802467
>Thou shall not murder
Espically for money. Though, one can argue that playing a game like Hitman is not violating that rule because 1's and 0's being used to simulate murder isn't technically murder. Which is true, but that doesn't mean it won't have an effect on your soul. Even if it is subtle. Much like how porn desensitizes you to an to sexual immorality, violence in movies and video games desensitizes you to violence and murder in real life. Don't believe me? Venture to /pol/ or /leftypol/ or heck even reddit or twitter and you will see the hatred and vitriol that comes from people's hearts. How they want to kill politician X, or genocide group of people Y, or brutalize person Z for what ever reason they give to justify their behavior. It's abhorrent to a sane person, but the society we live in had normalized it so much you just forget about it seconds later after hearing news of yet another school/mall/movie theater/synagogue/church/mosque shooter.
I'm assuming you are an adult and have the mental capacity to know right from wrong. So you can play these violent videogames if you want, but don't let satan fool you into thinking it is okay to emulte or do those things in real life. Being prudent and avoiding said media would be better for you. The time spent on vidya could be used to glorify God in prayer or be spent doing charity work or learning a skill to advance your career or small business.
>embed related
A pretty good sermon from Fr. Issac Mary Relyea on the use of our ever depreciating time.
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3b3221 No.802523
>>802397
I'm pretty sure they are but higher forms e.g. the soldiers and the elites are "modified" humans so stuff begins to get difficult (both morally and in-game)
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3b3221 No.802524
>>802523
didn't mean to use that pic BTW
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3b3221 No.802525
>>802524
Actually the image does make sense in this thread, since a lot of German games (as you see here) usually censor out gore and human killing
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3b8305 No.802603
Lol at grown "men" playing video games
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6402d0 No.802625
>>801975
yes, and I am the king of donkenings
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abfd4d No.802633
>>801855
A good example that comes to mind is the Shin Megami Tensei series. Angels are usually the antagonists in the games, demons are allies, and the final boss for one of the more recent entries was literally YHVH.
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e78bee No.802635
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>>801809
Estrogen speeds by
Soynic the hedgehog
Let’s wife sucks off the bull until he dry
Soynic the hedgehog
Soynic he a cuckhold
Soynic he male feminist
He wants shadow in his wife he wants shadow the hedgehog in his wife
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6402d0 No.802639
>>802635
And now I must go out into the desert and become a hermit so I never again have to suffer this kind of crap
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3b3221 No.802897
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56d302 No.802912
>>802897
>only member private profile named 'not a spy'
Very trustworthy anon, I'll post my social security details right away!
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3ea175 No.802915
>>802897
This is a fantastic idea and hopefully will inspire more Christian video game presence here and abroad that is less Reddit and more trad.
>>802912
Tbf, from what I can tell it was literally made today and for this thread.
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56d302 No.802916
>>802915
You have made yourself known now, Retro Star.
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3ea175 No.802940
>>802916
Certainly hope this doesn't bite me in the ass someday. I suppose the worst thing about aligning with a new community tied to 8chan is the fact it'll be tied to 8chan, given all the bad publicity the rest of the site has. It's just so hard finding a more traditional based Christian gaming community these days.
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3ea175 No.802962
>>802060
It's hard to imagine that Legend of Zelda of all things could of had more Christian elements in it… Though it probably would've been a manner of time before they mess it up.
For violence in games. I'd say treat them in the same way as movies. In that while it shouldn't matter because it's not real, there's definitely a few raunchy adult only stuff out there most sensible sort would rather publicly make known that they steer clear of.
That or things with explicit anti-religious themes. For example, love most of the Castevania games as I grew up since you get to play as a cool demon/vampire killer, Christian dude, that is with exception to the latter 3d Castlevania games and recent Netflix American anime adaptation where they take jabs at the Church.
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3b3221 No.802973
>>802912
My profile is private for anxiety reasons and i don't like flashy profile names so i named it a generic TF2 joke
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e78bee No.803071
>>802523
Those robots always looked cool.
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e78bee No.803075
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>>802962
As much shit I will get for saying this. Scott cawthan not only a Christian that gave butt load of money children hospital. FNAF games do have strong christian overtones.
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e78bee No.803076
>>801865
>>801846
I never understood why final fantasy 7 considered anti-religious among atheists. when sephiroth suppose to be a anti-Christ figure and the game had themes of forgiveness. Even the final fantasy 7 sequel movie had Baptism portrayed in a positive lights
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026ba1 No.803080
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a80a3c No.807331
>>802635
what does that have to do with the thread?
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bd26af No.807341
>>802477 (checked)
/pol/ is a board of peace.
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e2405f No.807349
>>807341
Yup, das rite, and BT the coward is a terrorist of peace. All those meme threads glorifying him and encouraging impressionable minds to emulate him are all Mossad propagandists of peace.
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29face No.807370
Wrath is a deadly sin. Do violent vidya teach people to indulge in their wrath or control it?
Porn on Netflix and in Mass Effect is a problem. Telling young men not to play violent games is also a problem, Helen Lovejoy. It's amazing how Christianity got subverted in favor of faggotry.
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a6afa1 No.807374
Street Fighter style violence is fine.
Mortal Kombat goes too far with the gore and blood.
GTA is for degenerates.
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a78ac7 No.808112
>>802962
I thought Castlevania might be ok, then I readd the lore behind the original game
>In the year 1691, Transylvania enjoyed a century of peace thanks to the legendary hero, Christopher Belmont, a vampire hunter who vanquished Count Dracula one hundred years earlier with a holy whip named the Vampire Killer. The people of a Transylvanian village were enjoying their fortune with an Easter celebration in honor of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but every one hundred years, the power of Jesus weakened, and the hearts of men turned black as they yearned for chaos and destruction. During this time, they sought to revive Count Dracula so he may spread chaos and ruination throughout the world. While the Easter celebration carried on with a grand carnival, evil men gathered in a monastery at the edge of the village and conducted a black mass to resurrect Count Dracula. [4]
>the power of Jesus weakened
That doesn't happen
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e26ae1 No.808118
>>801846
Many far eastern RPG's are anti-christian as they have you fight against and kill some sort of creator god. The Megami Tensei series has you fight YHWH in several games, but I think you can join him in the first SMT, and I've been tempted to try it for this reason. I honestly kind of prefer depicting him as a "bad" guy as that is what most of humanity thinks of the true God and it actually gets closer to the truth of His nature than the idolatrous "just be nice" God of modernity.
>>802633
Yea, He's the final boss of SMT IV Final, but he was also the final boss of Megami Tensei II…although you could choose at the end to join his Millennium Kingdom. What's interesting is that he orders Satan to do all the evil stuff in the game. While this is blasphemous, I find it neat that it's close to acknowledging that God uses the rebellious angels/demons for His own ends. Usually in Biblical based fiction, Satan is shown as an equal of God's and they try to present tension as if Satan can truly stand of against His will, causing a white knuckled battle that makes mankind wonder "who will win?"
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a528cf No.808122
>>808118
Very interesting. I've never played mainline SMT, part of what keeps me away is the scale and scope of the conflict. Persona being this high school setting with some supernatural demons you fight has always been a lot more of my cup of tea.
To OP's question, I avoid very violent games, and even moderately violent ones. Context and the level of violence usually determines whether or not it is the level of violence I can tolerate. Like street fighter and snk fightan is fine for me, but not a big fan of MK or any of the various shitty gory 90s fighting games.
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ecde96 No.808260
>>808122
What about the civ games on 'quick combat'? There's no violence but still people die.
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a528cf No.808280
>>808260
I stopped playing strategy games for different reasons, mostly poor time management. I guess because the deaths were generally quick, on the map, and not in your face and bloody.I played more paradox games too, and those were memey because in the fighting the units didnt even touch each other, or in HOI's case, the units are square boxes with symbols saying their size and type.
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79c14f No.808291
don't waste your life on games
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68cc38 No.808294
>>801838
this
Also, I return to TF2 every halloween. I love that game, so many memories and hard times were walked/thought through while listening to music playing that.
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b123a5 No.808295
>>808291
>spend a few hours a week on a hobby
>wasting your life
wew lad
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7afb09 No.808315
>>808295
>few hours a week
means you'll suck crap at the games you play relative to even casual gamers (ignoring the good gamers, and then advanced, and then pros).
If you're going to play games you need to devote a good amount of time to the hobby to actually make improvements and git gud. If you're going to learn to paint or play an instrument the same thing applies.
And then it actually isn't a waste of time because you're improving a skill and that requires discipline and thinking.
Being a perpetual scrub is a waste of time.
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992073 No.808325
>>808315
>you'll suck crap at the games you play
Who cares? It's a game. It's supposed to be fun, not a chore or a job.
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082203 No.808327
>>802060
Psalm 101:3 is a great litmus test, and what you're doing does not sound bizarre or lame. Over the past year and a half I've been convicted over two passages that I feel covers not only a lot of the "Can I…?" questions, but also the "Should I…?" questions.
>1 Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
>Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
The context on both of these is Christian freedom and specifically about eating, but I'm not the only one who has tied these two verses together and applied them to broader life.
I'll spared much of the details because I feel as if I'm boasting. Suffice it to say parts of it were a real tug of war. I tried to justify strategy games such as Mountain Blade or Europa Universalis as "brain training", but I couldn't shake the conviction. At the moment, the only stuff I kept was Hacknet and a few similar games since I'm looking to get into cybersecurity or something related, and I feel I can glorify God better with the extra funds I will have. Currently, the only other option I've left open for myself is an online "game night" with friends as I feel playing and spending time with others is more God glorifying.
It's been revealing since I didn't know so much of my identity was wrapped up in gaming until I had to wrestle with it. But I'm starting to see behind the facade to the emptiness of it, and my attachment is weakening. That said, I'll probably miss the Zelda series, and part of me hopes I can play some other games to the Glory of God in the future.
Again I hope this isn't boasting. I'm not very consistent wit the principle and I still have to apply this to many other parts of my life… also sometimes I wonder if I'm being neurotic and just whipping up my own doubts. Anyways, I definitely don't want to imply that others need to follow me, afterall
>Romans 14:5 "One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
So this is about our individual walk with Christ and not a list of Dos and Don'ts.
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8bcb81 No.808363
>>808325
if it's not worth getting good at, it's not worth doing
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8bcb81 No.808364
>>808325
I get what you're saying though, some people just play for a bit of escapism and find "fun" in casual gaming
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8bcb81 No.808380
>>808291
This is a lie.
Reminder Link is CHRISTIAN. This is from official nintendo source ←
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cc1707 No.808544
>>808380
That's concept art from before ALttP, since then they've created a Pantheon includinf 3 creation goddeses and some other goddess named Hylia. You literally have to pray to idols of Hylia in BOTW to increase health and stamina…and that's using spirit orbs you get from Buddhist looking exquisite corpses.
Even the old games mixed Christianity with paganism. Sure there are crosses on your shield and the graves in the first two games.
But you get the "Bible" in the first game (changed to "Book of Magic" in the US) that makes the magic wand leave fire behind. And the second game has you retrieve a really important "trophy" for a town that's literally called an "goddess statue" in the Japanese version.
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a78ac7 No.808790
I think there are a lot of questions we can ask about which, if any, video games are alright to play. Here are just a couple that come to mind:
1. Most video games are secular media. Is any secular media alright? If so, are video games any better or worse than other media, such as tv, movies, books, etc?
2. Is all violence in games bad? What if it's about self-defense or fighting against some evil? Cartoon violence? What about strategy games, such as war games? What if there is fighting, but it is not-graphic? (Like in strategy games, where it might consist of sprites)
3. In fantasy and sci-fi settings, is it ok to have fictional religions and deities? If so, to what extent? What about magic, or fantasy races? In a sci-fi setting, what about aliens or self-aware robots?
4. Are video games something that can be played in moderation, or something to be avoided entirely?
I'm not sure that all video games are bad, or even if it's that clear-cut. It might be that it depends on how strong your faith is. But I don't want to tell someone who shouldn't be playing games that it's okay too.
I've tried multiple times to quit video games altogether. Personally, I found I became idle and spent a lot more time either sitting around doing nothing, or masturbating. I hoped having a hobby would keep me from being idle, but I also don't want to just give a go-ahead to all video games. If video games are okay in moderation, and even then only in moderation, we need to be more passionate about God then our hobbies.
Would a board or general for this be a worthwhile idea? Something to tell Christians which video games are definitely to be avoided, discuss the less certain ones,, but more importantly help Christians make sure they are playing with moderation and helping them to put God first.
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39d207 No.809170
>>801809
The Bible says no.
Psalm 11:5
>The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
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a78ac7 No.809332
So I know we worry about violence in video games, but what about other forms of media? There does seem to be a worry in regards to TV or movies, but not to the same degree as with video games as far as I'm aware. Is that because less youth read nowadays? Or is it because books aren't a visual form of media? Or is it because video games have an interactive element?
Take Tolkien for example. I haven't actually read it, but it's supposed to be rooted in Christian themes and contains conflict with evil. I don't think that would be sinful, even though it contains violence.
I certainly can't think of any video games that are firmly rooted in Christian themes, bu ti f there hypothetically were one, would that be a problem if it involved fighting evil?
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41d1e2 No.809337
gateway unclean spirits.
/thread
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8bc4ec No.809340
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8bc4ec No.809348
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e78bee No.809654
>>808380
Stop being holy when elves are involved
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0be226 No.815206
>>801809
I like games like quake and doom and wolfenstein because it lets me larp and pretend im killin demons and stuff like that
other than that playing some team fpses like cs, tf2 or some cod isnt bad.
minecraft is especially based, i've made so many farms that with my new enderman farm i have gained 20,000+ enderpearls within a day
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374edb No.815470
>>815206
Wolfenstein is a Nazi/conservative killing simulator, it's probably as bad in terms of violence as it gets
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e78bee No.815652
>>815470
>Wolfenstein is a Nazi/conservative killing simulator
>Nazi = conservative
Friendly reminder /pol/ that the Holocaust never happen, Nazism promoted fatherless teen pregnancy, slaughtered millions of whites and worked with Swiss jewish bankers.
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e20b4c No.815655
Christians in the early centuries were against even watching the Colosseum fights.
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c6f8fc No.815657
>>815655
Christians should abstain from fleshly lusts and from culture, as it is filled with nothing but the desire to sin, which can infect you. There is nothing neutral, holy men produce holy things, and sinners produce things tainted with sin. Games in general are worthless, if not always. They are the definition of childish things.
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d07bc2 No.815661
>>815657
by this definition christians should only consume content made by christians for christians. Which i think is a very narrow view. Whatever works for you, but don't come around telling anyone who doesn't do this isn't a christian and "not a REAL man".
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374edb No.815665
>>815652
You don't have to like the Nazis themselves but in these games (at least in the promo material) the Nazis are used as a stand-in for normal conservative Americans.
>the Holocaust never happen
You said it not me
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c652b0 No.815736
Vidya isn't Christian at all, the soccer mums of the 90s were right. Most vidya has masonic and kabbalistic sublimals.
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5ccdc6 No.815767
>>802962
used to love castlevania but after realizing its probably slanderous of the guy dracula was modeled after it feels kinda hollow
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a50c65 No.819382
>>819380
It's designed to incite you to break the sixth commandment, inflame yourself with lust and willingly and knowingly inflict self-abuse (also called masturbation) upon yourself.
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6964e9 No.819395
>>809337
That sounds like SDA/JW
animism to me. Minecraft isn’t going to make your computer haunted.
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c65673 No.819637
>>801891
This. You gotta remember that many Asians find Christian & Western aesthetics exotic, the same way weebs will often larp as Buddhists while knowing little about the authentic tradition. An example would be Berserk (in manga) and Dark Souls (in gaming). They're like outsider takes on medieval European culture & loosely influenced by the aesthetics of traditional Christianity, but without any deep understanding of them (no hate, I love both series which is why I use them as examples). Basically don't read so much into these things or let them influence your real world viewpoint.
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374edb No.819645
So are SMT and Persona for example off limits for their adaptation of Christian elements or is it okay if it doesn't make you question your faith?
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3ad1b5 No.819848
>>819645
Have you played them yourself? I would say they are interesting takes on incorporating a variety of mythologies and religions and trying to make a coherent story out of it. However, I feel like in terms of Christian elements they always exclude the mention of Jesus Christ and his existence, which I feel like kind of completely misses the point of Christianity. Like anything from the East involving religion, they can make an interesting bit of entertainment with the knowledge they have, but expecting them to completely get what Christianity is about and accurately depict it with near flawless execution is something I highly doubt will ever happen. If they ever do attempt to do Christianity a justice, it would take a lot of effort and research on their part and by then it probably wouldn't be in a easily digestible format that would gain any sort of traction.
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374edb No.819849
>>819848
>Have you played them yourself?
I've played Persona 4&5 and a bit of Strange Journey but have been hesitant to get more into it since becoming Christian due to the demon summoning and portrayal of YHVH
>However, I feel like in terms of Christian elements they always exclude the mention of Jesus Christ and his existence, which I feel like kind of completely misses the point of Christianity.
Yeah, though you can fuse "Messiah" in Persona 3. I know the games don't portray Christianity properly and don't even aim to but I still worry about blasphemous implications of ie killing a being based on the Old Testament conception of God.
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b983db No.819854
>>802154
I'm a little worried to hear that heaven is one of the settings in the new upcoming Doom game. I hope it won't have you killing angels and that sort of thing. I'm worried they might go with a gritty 'God is just as bad' angle.
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733dfd No.819859
>>819645
In my opinion, SMT might go too far. To achieve the True Ending in SMT4 Apocalypse, you have to deny YHWH's divine nature.
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466742 No.819891
>>808327
>EU4
Good taste, Victoria 2 is better though
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466742 No.819892
>>815652
A nazi wants conservative social values and is willing to use force to get them.
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3ad1b5 No.819964
>>819849
This response might sound a bit odd due to me still trying to formulate my exact opinion so bear with me.
I try to look at both sides of the argument when it comes to the subject. Some people say "It is just a video game/work of fiction therefore (fill in the blank)" while others say "despite it just being a video game/work of fiction it still does harm through (fill in the blank)". Whatever perspective you take is yours and has a level of validity to it and I think you must go from there.
Even if you aren't breaking any country or local laws by playing these games, still stick with your gut. If you don't feel grimy or blasphemous when associating with this series, then go ahead and play them. If you do feel grimy or blasphemous when associating with this series then by all means stay away from it. I doubt people will hassle you for not playing/completing it but if they do you can just say it just wasn't your type of game. I don't feel like you really need a reason to justify your tastes when it comes to this.
I can't really give an end all be all answer to this type of question, but just use your head and think about how it makes you feel. Do you feel like these games/works of fiction will give you a worthwhile experience even if they conflict greatly with your beliefs? It comes down to how much you know yourself and what you are okay with consuming. This applies not only to this series but anything else in general. If you feel it adds nothing worthwhile to your life, stay away from it. If not, then just be mindful of what you do. I think it goes without saying but not everything is worth skipping out on but not everything is worth indulging.
What I am saying should by no means be taken as absolute law of the land but just something to consider. These are just my thoughts of course. I just hope that you come to a conclusion that makes sense to you while still also honoring God.
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374edb No.820024
>>819964
Yeah, I know the stuff for example won't sway me in my beliefs but I just worry about the people who say stuff like "God will be offended by you watching that/playing that" and it's like how am I supposed to know if it will offend God?
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3ad1b5 No.820057
>>820024
Again, you will just have to go with your gut and what your conscience tells you. Just make the best decision that you can with the knowledge you have.
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7e12d2 No.820511
>>807374
That girl is indevent and shoul cover herself more
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244bcb No.820659
It's interesting, a developer named Grasshopper Manufacturer, the creators of No More Heroes, Let It Die and Killer7, is known for super violent games. The lead dev at the company, Suda 51, was an undertaker before he became a game developer, so every game he makes involving death tend to go extremely overboard. I'm talking about gallons of blood and limbs everywhere. Not necessarily saying it's bad, but that it has to have impact or else people won't feel it. Of course, Let It Die is somewhat unique, as the entire purpose of progression is in the title. The game even has a loading screen that compares climbing the tower in-game to the Tower of Babel. I'm mostly trying to say virtual violence on its own isn't bad, but without a sort of feedback to it, the impact isn't noteworthy.
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bf7294 No.824341
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