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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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81bb47  No.800121

<The Galileo case

>In 1616, on the orders of Paul V, Bellarmine summoned Galileo, notified him of a forthcoming decree of the Congregation of the Index condemning the Copernican doctrine of the mobility of the Earth and the immobility of the Sun, and ordered him to abandon it.[9] Galileo agreed to do so.[10]

>When Galileo later complained of rumours to the effect that he had been forced to abjure and do penance, Bellarmine wrote out a certificate denying the rumors, stating that Galileo had merely been notified of the decree and informed that, as a consequence of it, the Copernican doctrine could not be "defended or held".[11] Cardinal Bellarmine believed such a demonstration could not be found because it would contradict the unanimous consent of the Fathers' scriptural exegesis, to which the Council of Trent, in 1546,[12] defined all Catholics must adhere.

Bellarmine wrote to heliocentrist Paolo Antonio Foscarini in 1615:[13]

>The Council [of Trent] prohibits interpreting Scripture against the common consensus of the Holy Fathers; and if Your Paternity wants to read not only the Holy Fathers, but also the modern commentaries on Genesis, the Psalms, Ecclesiastes, and Joshua, you will find all agreeing in the literal interpretation that the sun is in heaven and turns around the earth with great speed, and that the earth is very far from heaven and sits motionless at the center of the world.

and

>I say that if there were a true demonstration that the sun is at the center of the world and the earth in the third heaven, and that the sun does not circle the earth but the earth circles the sun, then one would have to proceed with great care in explaining the Scriptures that appear contrary, and say rather that we do not understand them, than that what is demonstrated is false. But I will not believe that there is such a demonstration, until it is shown me. Nor is it the same to demonstrate that by supposing the sun to be at the center and the earth in heaven one can save the appearances, and to demonstrate that in truth the sun is at the center and the earth in heaven; for I believe the first demonstration may be available, but I have very great doubts about the second, and in case of doubt one must not abandon the Holy Scripture as interpreted by the Holy Fathers.

>In 1633, nearly twelve years after Bellarmine's death, Galileo was again called before the Inquisition in this matter.

>In his article on Bellarmine in the Complete Dictionary of Scientific Biography, Ernan McMullin cites Pierre Duhem and Karl Popper as prominent adherents to an "often repeated" view that "in one respect, at least, Bellarmine had shown himself a better scientist than Galileo", insofar as he supposedly denied that a "strict proof" of the Earth's motion could be possible on the grounds that an astronomical theory merely 'saves the appearances' without necessarily revealing what 'really happens.'"[14]McMullin himself emphatically rejects that view as untenable.[15]

What does this implicate?

89aeef  No.800130

>>800121

Nothing

Retards existed back then as exist now and in addition to that, this article being straight out of Wikipedia where anyone can write and cite all sorts of garbage doesn't help it's credibility.


81bb47  No.800140

>>800130

>Retards existed back then as exist now and in addition to that

I know that, but Cdl. Bellarmine said that the Church Fathers agreed that Genesis (specifically the creation story) was to be taken literally;

>…you will find all agreeing in the literal interpretation that the sun is in heaven and turns around the earth with great speed, and that the earth is very far from heaven and sits motionless at the center of the world.


828839  No.800154

>>800140

Cardinal Baronius was a friend of Galilei and even agreed with his theory; the Specola Romana was one of the biggest observatories of its times, and the eliocentric theory was not barred nor banned, just: they weren’t sure if it was scientifically proven, thus it was a theory and in need of final validations.

Galileo also called the Pope names and the guy put him in his place by scaring him a bit but did not hurt him.


89aeef  No.800155

>>800140

Augustine, Origen and several others supported allegorical interpretation.


f4ae08  No.800188

Heliocentrism is sun-worship.


13e17c  No.800195

Bible is pretty clear that the earth is the center of the universe. God stopped the sun from moving to make the last longer at knees point. Actually, in the lcms there is no official position per se, but until like the 1930s the top leadership were geocentrists


b4655d  No.800209

>>800188

just like Christianity is Easter-worship


1b0628  No.800210

>>800209

>t. Obama


3fd7f8  No.800465

Let's be absolutely clear- Galileo was wrong. The universe isn't heliocentric. Whether you're a flat earth creationist or believe in the big bang theory he was wrong. His pride was too great, and he was wrong.


e6bc35  No.800515

>>800130

You don't need credibility if you do not trust anything and think always for yourself. So what was your opinion again?


e6bc35  No.800522

>>800465

The concept of the universe was not even discussed back then. There was a heliocentristic and a geocentric model of the solar system and Galileo Galilei cognized wisely the right one.


3fd7f8  No.800797

>>800522

>cognized wisely the right one

The stars don't revolve around the sun. He was wrong.




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