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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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cbda78  No.798229

This verse has got me winnie the poohed up. I was circumcised at birth. Did my parents doom me to a decision between damnation or avoiding pork, killing gays, and sacrificing animals?

Galatians 5 New International Version (NIV)

Freedom in Christ

5 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

WEBM unrelated but unrelatedly important, I guess.

670530  No.798232

Your parents were ignorant and mutilated your genitals. So did mine. Welcome to life in the fallen world. John Hagee is literally an agent of Satan.


cbda78  No.798233

>>798232

I know all that, but it doesn't address my inquiry about the forecast of my future. Am I expected to follow old Jewish law because of something someone did to me before I was capable of object permenance?


ba35bc  No.798234

The error of the judaizers is trying to force works into the paradigm of justification; specifically, the work of circumcision.

If they trust on this work for justification, then they are not trying to be justified by faith like Paul teaches. "The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love".

The physical act of circumcision has no play for or against justification. "in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value". Elsewhere, "God is not a respector of persons".

Remember that "circumcision" was used as a synonymous term with "Jew" and "uncircumcised" meant "gentile".

Our parents were zogged but you're not going to hell for it.


2f1886  No.798236

That's like asking if a cripple is doomed to burn in hell because he was born without working legs

It was a circumstance not of your choosing

t. also circumsised


cbda78  No.798238

>>798234

>>798236

I appreciate the reassurance, but the bible is pretty insistent on there being generational consequences. Children born of cursed unions are damned to the 10th generation, for example.


04e997  No.798239

From the document, "Cantate Domino" (A.D. 1442), signed by Pope Eugene IV, from the 11th session of the Council of Florence (A.D. 1439, a continuation of the Council of Basle, A.D. 1431, and the Council of Ferrara, A.D. 1438) :

[The Holy Roman Church] firmly believes, professes and teaches that the legal prescriptions of the Old Testament or the Mosaic law, which are divided into ceremonies, holy sacrifices and sacraments, because they were instituted to signify something in the future, although they were adequate for the divine cult of that age, once our Lord Jesus Christ who was signified by them had come, came to an end and the sacraments of the new Testament had their beginning. Whoever, after the Passion, places his hope in the legal prescriptions and submits himself to them as necessary for salvation and as if faith in Christ without them could not save, sins mortally. It does not deny that from Christ's passion until the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been retained, provided they were in no way believed to be necessary for salvation. But it asserts that after the promulgation of the gospel they cannot be observed without loss of eternal salvation. Therefore it denounces all who after that time observe circumcision, the [Jewish] sabbath and other legal prescriptions as strangers to the faith of Christ and unable to share in eternal salvation, unless they recoil at some time from these errors. Therefore it strictly orders all who glory in the name of Christian, not to practise circumcision either before or after baptism, since whether or not they place their hope in it, it cannot possibly be observed without loss of eternal salvation.


670530  No.798240

>>798233

>Am I expected to follow old Jewish law because of something someone did to me

No.


ba35bc  No.798241

>>798238

Are you trying to exegetically find what the truth is on this or do you just want to assert your defeatism?

The forbiddance of bastards and non-jews from entering the assembly from Deuteronomy is not in place after Christ.


cbda78  No.798243

>>798241

I work in IT and know how "eh, I'm sure it'll be fine" turns into a seven-digit loss for the company. Except there's no 'next financial quarter' for the soul. You either got it right or you didn't. So maybe I'm a little… high strung on the topic of leaving no loose ends.


ba35bc  No.798245

>>798243

I'm not saying "eh I'm sure it'll be fine". I'm telling you that the passage clearly teaches the opposite of what you're concluding, and I'm trying to explain why. Where do you see an inconsistency?


7b515e  No.798246

Like I told you in this exact same thread posted just a few hours ago, but got deleted …

Just wrap it up in duct tape. You'll never know the difference.


1a62c6  No.798256

>be am unwilling participant in a semetic blood magic ritual

>some roastie wore your infant severed penile skin as a facial mask

>be me

There is no justice in this world.


7880ba  No.798275

>>798256

God is justice itself.


00f413  No.798287

>>798229

Hell is serious business, God doesn't send people to hell for such silly reasons. God loves you, that should tell you all you need to know.




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