Orthodox Animal Sacrifice.

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Orthodox Animal Sacrifice. Christanon 04/19/19 (Fri) 01:06:12 063eec No.797790

Do Orthodox really still do animals sacrifices called Kourbania? I hear in placed like Greece and Turkey, Orthodox Christian sacrifice goats to the Trinity, Mary, or a patron saint. Isn't sacrificing to anything other than God idolatry though? Also isn't the only true sacrifice in the New Covenant only found in the Eucharist now because it's Christ? How do Orthodox defend this practice?

Christanon 04/19/19 (Fri) 01:28:16 383574 No.797813

Seems to be either a leftover from Greek paganism that badly made the transition to Christianity, or a Judaizing attempt to replicate the sacrifices of the Old Testament without understanding what the sacrifice of Jesus implies.

I assume that at the very best, some bishops would consider them to be offerings to God in the same way penance and alms are offerings to God, but I strongly doubt that anyone who participates in this thinks of it this way anyway, especially if the sacrifice is not to God but to a saint.

Note that Greeks tend to be very superstitious, so this doesn't help at all.

I don't think most Orthodox Christians even know this practice exists in some places. And among those who do, I doubt many who are theologically educated would defend it.

Christanon 04/21/19 (Sun) 01:28:47 690b5a No.798649

>>797790

>people in the bible were sacrificing stuff

>i want to do that too

this is probably what they're thinking

Christanon 04/21/19 (Sun) 08:11:41 eeb05f No.798816

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>>797790

It's more likely a practice that slipped in the the tradition in some villages during the Ottoman rule. Those times the people were very very poor and illiterate and the church was also very poor. People would cling to their Christian faith but they didn't really know much about it. Whole villages could stay without a priest for 30 years or more before someone could go there so they can baptise their kids, burry their dead and receive the Eucharist. It wasn't before Saint Kosmas of Aetolia and other monks started their mission of re-evangelization that many people in remote areas began to learn again about their faith, it was the equivalent of the Greek enlightenment and that's why the revolution started a few decades later.

Today those traditions have survived as folk customs in some areas but they're dying away. But no, it's not Orthodox.

Christanon 04/21/19 (Sun) 10:39:48 40ffd7 No.798836

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>>798816

>It's more likely a practice that slipped in the the tradition in some villages during the Ottoman rule

According to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kourbania

there are numerous attestations of this custom from Byzantine times.

>>797790

>I hear in placed like Greece and Turkey, Orthodox Christian sacrifice goats to the Trinity, Mary, or a patron saint.

This custom is still very popular in Bulgaria. It is not, however, a sacrifice to God or to a Saint. It is a donation to the poor men in the name of God or a Saint (in Bulgarian language there is one word for sacrifice and donation). It is often done in the day of the patron saint of the Church in the town of the village, which day is considered a holiday of the whole town or village and even the poorest people have the unique chance to eat some high quality food. There are also personal kourbania in which people who want to thank God (often by survivors of an accident or disease) make this gift for fellow-men and poor men.

>How do Orthodox defend this practice?

By Matthew 25:37-40:

"Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’"

Christanon 04/21/19 (Sun) 11:30:41 3a3157 No.798842

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>>798649

So they’re Evangelical?

Christanon 04/21/19 (Sun) 11:46:47 502ce4 No.798850

>>797790

>Kourbania

Its a mudslime garbage, judging by its name. Nevertheless, I've heard of it out of this thread first