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It's not attack, it's veneration. Get it right protestards.

For some reason, it makes me a little more comfortable that they would attack.. rather than try to re-appropriate Mary or Christ and try to say they're on their side. I'm glad people like this know that Mary is their enemy.. rather than the stupid notion that she's their accomplice.

In other words, those within the Church are far more destructive than outsiders. Take Pedosta or Pelosi, for instance.

>>785816

That’s a mushroom with Down syndrome

>>785816

>"I don't know what a statue is"

>*Resists arrest*

At least it's a retarded demon.

>>785984

Why dont you embrace and accept him if you aknowlegde him

>>786001

I can't give up my sin. I'm a reprobate. I hate my body and want a new one, and God won't give me one here or in Heaven. It's not that I don't love God, but I can't accept the standards you have to live by to go to Heaven.

I feel compelled to make my body look like a woman's, and I care more about that than I care about God. Since God won't let me do this, and I'd have to give up this desire for all eternity to be with God, I can't miss my only opportunity to be feminine on Earth.

Hell may be bad, but Heaven would be a Hell for me.

>>786008

Your conception of heaven is too materialistic.

Does the conception of "body of glory/body of resurrection" evokes anything in your mind?

Your conception of heaven implies you'll have the same body there that the one you have on earth and that sexual dimorphism will matter

"25When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like the angels in heaven. "

Also, sorry to bust your bubble but you will *never* achieve your dreams. Even the best looking trans needs a shittons of makeup and photoshop to not look rometely awkward.

A man can feel these things, even if a photo or a film can fool us, you will *NEVER* get rid of your masculine essence.

You're mentally ill, seek God and seek help. God bless you.

https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/america-s-first-non-binary-person-switches-back-there-is-no-third-gender.html

>>786008

pray the rosary fren

>>786013

>Does the conception of "body of glory/body of resurrection" evokes anything in your mind?

1 Corinthians 15 is my favorite part of the Bible.

>Your conception of heaven implies you'll have the same body there that the one you have on earth and that sexual dimorphism will matter

Jesus rose as he looked in death - with wounds. Yet Corinthians says we'll be changed, without defining that change.

But neither my personal experiences nor the discussions I've had with Christians suggest this new body will look like a woman.

>"25When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like the angels in heaven. "

The angels are like something out of a drug trip, and I've done drugs and I can imagine what being a sexless angel would be like.

The Bible also says we get to build houses and plant vineyards. I'm not sure how to harmonize that with humans becoming like angels.

>Also, sorry to bust your bubble but you will *never* achieve your dreams. Even the best looking trans needs a shittons of makeup and photoshop to not look rometely awkward

There are lots of ugly women too. I have no idea why God made me and these women so ugly (In our eyes, not God's eyes - God thinks we're all beautiful) and then said, 'you don't get to be pretty in Heaven either.'

>A man can feel these things, even if a photo or a film can fool us, you will *NEVER* get rid of your masculine essence

I don't mind my male essence - I want a female wrapper.

>You're mentally ill

I think mental illness in this sense is bullshit. Demented people or schizophrenics are mentally ill - I'm just commiting sin. If we define sin as 'unfruitfulness,' then transexually is sinful because it creates people who compared to born-females/males are ugly and unfruitful

>seek God and seek help

I had a drug trip and God explained everything to me. I begged Him for a personal audience, which God granted.

It's just the way things are - God won't take me because I'm a tranny. The rejection hurts so bad. I could go to a liberal church, hang out with atheists - but my heart would tell me that I was cheating myself.

Looking through history, through all the religions, I never found any acceptance of transsexuality. I can't even say that Christianity is wrong, because every other religion rejects me as well.

Society didn't make me this way, either. God made me this way, or Satan corrupted me. Even if my sin is genetic, it means Satan cursed my blood. Who I am is fundamentally sinful - my own personal 'Transsexual sin' like Original sin belongs to all people.

>God bless you

Thanks. God bless you too.

>>786019

I've done that, and it makes me feel better - like cold water on a burn. But I can't pray the rosary all the time, and the fact that the pain comes back the moment I stop praying, and it feels pointless.

I actually spent time to learn the rosary, but I stopped praying it because I felt like I was insulting God because I wouldn't give up being a tranny.

>>786048

If I said that I didn't like my arm, and that I wish I didn't have it, and actively tried to pretend that I only had one arm, the only conclusion would be mental illness. It's not normal to feel that you're something that you aren't. It's not normal to desire that up was down in a way that leads to mental despair, self mutilation and suicide. If you truly feel this way, then you are mentally ill.

>>786048

Some people are given particularly burdensome, lifelong crosses such as homosexuality or having conflicting gender identity. God did not make you this way, but He allowed you to be born this way out of his respect for the fallen nature of man and Adam's choice to allow for the corruption of nature and birth. Nevertheless, God made you a man and intended for you to be a man.

You need to realize that transgenderism, just like homosexuality, is a false promise of happiness. We were made by God and for God and not for sexual immorality. The Devil likes to make us believe that we know better than God what is good for us. Why do you care so much about appearance? You acknowledge that God doesn't care. God allowed me to be born with a medically winnie the pooh'd body, and sometimes I admit I ask "Why God?" out of frustration, but ultimately it is because I am able to glorify God through my sufferings in this body by persevering through his grace.

>>786307

You again? How many times do we have to tell you that we will never condone you trying to turn yourself into a woman.

Stop believeing (((satan)))'s lies and man up already.

And stop blaming God for your parents' sins. He did not will that, (((satan))) did. My parents put me through Hell too, but you don't see me crying and trying to distort the body God gave me. Be stronger than the lies you were told.

And pray the rosary daily. I know you haven't.

>>786307

The hope of looking like a woman is purely vanity. What does this profit you? Even a lifetime of perfect pleasure and peace adds up to nothing at all when compared with eternity. Yet you say that the hope of gratifying this wish is all you have... do you not think that possessing God Himself, the very source of all good, will be better than this? In God is everything you could ever possibly want, in greater abundance than you can ever imagine. You won't think "aw I wish I could x" because the hole in your heart will finally be filled.

God does not allow for sad-faced saints. Trust His providence... He will fill you with joy you never thought possible.

>>786307

Going off of what >>786324 said

Your vanity won't get you into heaven and a deathbed confession is no way to repent. You already know what you are doing is wrong, and yet you do it anyway. That is a sin. A bigger sin than wanting to distort the body God gave you.

Please watch embed related and learn more about your vanity. For the love of all that is good and holy, stop polluting your body with those drugs. It messes with your head.

>>786314

>You again?

Yep. I'll be here forever.

>You again? How many times do we have to tell you that we will never condone you trying to turn yourself into a woman

Hence why I called myself a reprobate.

>Stop believeing (((satan)))'s lies and man up already

I've spent two weeks putting in 25lb shelves at grocery stores and taking the glass bottles of juice off the shelf and replacing them. Not as a stocker with a job that nets me social security - as a contractor.

>And stop blaming God for your parents' sins

Why does God blame me for becoming a tranny in the face of abusive parents who beat and abuse me, homelessness, and no hope on Earth or in Heaven?

Why didn't my grandparents baptise me after being given permission by my parents? Why did God tell all these people to keep me from him?

>And pray the rosary daily. I know you haven't

I just tried to teach it to my brother yesterday. I recited the first chaplet in front of him.

Teaching others Christianity - he's now reading the Catechism - counts for nothing I guess.

>>786324

>Yet you say that the hope of gratifying this wish is all you have… do you not think that possessing God Himself, the very source of all good, will be better than this?

I've seen God. I'm being told here I can't go live with Him as a tranny. This wish is all I have because God won't give me Heaven.

>In God is everything you could ever possibly want

Except the beauty of a woman, apparently.

>>786330

>It was not a sex change operation

I never said it was. I said Adam was created by God from dirt - he transmuted dirt that had no gender into male Adam - and then created Eve from male flesh by transmuting that male flesh into female flesh.

God took Adam's rib and made woman from it. God had to delete Adam's Y, because unless he had a genome with a Y to delete he wasn't a man. God would then have had to copy the X, or else Eve would have been XO and had Turner's syndrome.

Woman was made from man. It says so right in the Bible. If the soul is beyons sex, than it doesn't matter that Eve's sexless soul resided in Adam's body before the rib was removed and transformed into Eve's body.

God placed souls into bodies - he didn't do sex changes. Eve's soul was always destined for a female body, mine was not. I asked why God would work a miracle to make female bodies, then give some souls female bodies and others male bodies.

>God has given you this homosexuality as a temptation

I don't lust for men. I want to look like a woman and marry a woman.

>There is a lot of anger at God in your post

I feel crushed by God, not angry with him. I've done drugs, and I think I saw him and he told me to stop masturbating and turn my life around. During these experiences, it seemed pointless to fight God - His will was the final decision.

It's like being told 'no, you can't come,' and knowing you'll never be able to even debate with God about your rejection.

I'm whining and begging for salvation.

>You are already clearly living in a hell brother and we pray for your conversion

I've already been converted and have a drug habit I can't quit - being a transsexual. If anything, I'm angry with myself for being something that denies me Heaven, but I feel it's not my fault that I'm this way.

>Heaven and hell is the same place experienced by different people

Yes, that's what I meant by 'Heaven sounds like Hell to me.'

>There is so much you don't understand

I understand the beauty of God. I came to Christianity exicted to focus on Him, only to discover that He doesn't want me like I am.

>and you lash out at God

If crying over rejection by God is an attack against Him, I don't know what to say.

>Have you read the Bible where Christ says it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven?

I'm homeless, and God won't take me. I thought that verse referred to love of Earthly wealth/things?

>So God has already given you a gift and you blaspheme Him for it

What gift? Homelessness? A father who beats me? Exposure to influences that made me a transsexual? The life he gave me is shit.

The only gift God gave me was Heaven, and I can't have it apparently.

>Confess your sins before God almighty

I've stolen tons of booze and drugs from my Mom and Dad. My half brother let me stay with him because I was homeless, and I stole his booze. I had sex with my brother for years before finally swearing off homosexuality in 2015. I've said God was a shemale. I've condemned Pope's and excused my behavior because these Pope's were evil. I masturbated to CP once, over ten years ago.

>>786333

>You already know what you are doing is wrong, and yet you do it anyway. That is a sin. A bigger sin than wanting to distort the body God gave you

All I can do is ask for mercy.

>your vanity

My sin is pride. I don't care what others think of me - I care about how I look to myself.

>>786370

>I don't think you'll need your physical body (in the way that you seem to think)

So I never get to enjoy my flesh because I was poor on Earth and hated my body, then I go to a disembodied Heaven and never get to enjoy what tons of other people did on Earth.

>I'd even say that if you do love Him (and He DOES love you!), he would not cause you suffering by making your union with him the thing you fear most. It would be contrary to what we know about Him

I want to be with Him, but I also want to look like a woman. Only not looking like a woman for all eternity would make me suffer. If I can't look like a woman with Him, then the glory of being with him would not be mine. I'd have to dissociate my mind from the scene of being with God, and at that point I wouldn't feel His glory - I would have scooted myself off the table, and into Hell.

>>786806

>look like a woman

So you admit you are not a woman.

You have a serious dissociative disorder. You must be suffering intensely. Someone say a rosary for this man.

>>786806

tigga i already told you to either:

1- Seek treatment

or

2- Make a pilgrimage, travel, and of course before you go, throw all of that tranny shit away.

If you continue to not do these things, then yoi haven't done everything you could have. We are all praying for you hoping you can abandon this obsession.