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Recognize and resist Christanon 03/19/19 (Tue) 00:03:44 9f7798 No.785806

Is the so-called "recognize and resist" traditionalist position really any more coherent than sedevacantism? Pastor aeternus doesn't have any footnotes that say "All this shit goes out the window if some South American retard becomes Pope." There doesn't seem to be any real warrant to decide from one's own private judgment that a Pope is teaching error, no matter how blatantly it is done, because the Pope is effectively the next closest thing to God. The whole "a bad Pope doesn't actually mean anything" retort just seems lamer by the day. What the hell am I supposed to conclude? Is "Benevacantism" correct? Sedeprivationism/Cassiciacum thesis? Hell, the Siri thesis?

Christanon 03/19/19 (Tue) 02:14:58 df71fc No.785850

Sedevacantism is much more coherent since the Vatican II cult in the 1983 revision of the code of canon law has said that anyone who doesn't follow the teachings of anything from Pope to enclave to bishop is no longer in good standing with the Church. Gotta reject the whole poison.

Christanon 03/19/19 (Tue) 02:25:25 61dcae No.785854

>>785850

>Sedevacantism is much more coherent since the Vatican II cult in the 1983 revision of the code of canon law has said that anyone who doesn't follow the teachings of anything from Pope to enclave to bishop is no longer in good standing with the Church. Gotta reject the whole poison.

Sounds like a Protestant tbh.

Christanon 03/19/19 (Tue) 02:34:19 3b4370 No.785861

>>785854

Reminder that Vatican II took some advice from "reformers" from outside the Church, some not even Christian. The whole travesty was headed by one Annibale Cardinal Bugnini, who had a bee in his bonnet about changing things forcibly, whether it made sense or not. There is ample reason to deplore the results of that event.

Christanon 03/19/19 (Tue) 03:00:15 38e67d No.785866

>>785854

Back when I was Catholic and whenever I would ask people who should know (my priest, these missionaries I knew) if rejecting Vatican II makes me a heretic to their mainline church (i.e. not SSPX or Sede), I would get nondescript answers or basically "yes" via a roundabout answer.

Roman legalism is so confusing. There are tradcaths who claim to be in communion with their pope but acknowledge their pope is not Catholic. To be in communion doesn't just mean to respect the office. My heart goes out to them because those mental gymnastics must be difficult to maintain.

Christanon 03/19/19 (Tue) 10:01:48 3b4370 No.785951

>>785866

These gymnastics will likely continue until VII is undone.

Christanon 03/19/19 (Tue) 10:41:16 aa59ba No.785959

>>785951

It won't be. The issue was never V2, but abuse of it.

Same anon here you replied to earlier btw (about commenting about Protestantism).