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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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d21330  No.784113

So i stumbled upon this site: https://revelationrevolution.org/jesus-the-son-of-man-was-seen-in-the-clouds-in-a-d-66/

it's arguments are pretty convincing, altough i still have some difficulty accepting it. The author says partial preterism is compatible with the site's content, as there is a poissibilty that things that happened in the past may be an alusion to something bigger in the future. But that leaves two things: Is Christ coming or not? Is the earth abandoned? And if partial preterism is true, then will Christ come back a third time?

83da49  No.784122

>>784113

It's the only thing that makes sense to me, and gets me to appreciate the scope of Christ's victory throughout history. But I won't knock others who think otherwise. The Church has had a history of premillenial and amillenial beliefs side by side (the latter who are often partial-preterist). And it's always been that way, from the Church fathers, to differing Orthodox believers, to differing Catholic and Protestant believers. No one fights about it, because no one really knows. The important thing is to live for Christ's kingdom now and proclaim his first coming. No reason to dwell too much on the second coming. It'll come when it comes. His next advent will disrupt the world, like a thief in the night, as he said.

Only in the dispensationalist scheme would I say they don't really care about championing Christ and aren't worth being friendly with. They literally think Christ's death was "Plan B" and he was never meant to die for the sins of the world.. that he was meant to be the earthly Messiah Jews daydream about. And when he failed, he enacted "Plan B". It's blasphemous. Christ's death is exactly why he came. It's the most famous verse of the New Testament (John 3:16). They think this current period is only meant to make the Jews "jealous".. but when Jesus comes back, he'll enact the earthly kingdom they were waiting for. And their materialistic way of thinking lends to further blasphemies and abominations. They contribute to all kinds of crazy schemes to destabilize the Middle East, support Israel at all costs (even when other Christians suffer and lose their livelihoods) and hope to build the temple. The last of which is the greatest abomination. But it makes sense that they care about a "temple" so much, since they already trash the death of Christ and don't realize he's the last sacrifice, as the true Lamb of God "who takes away the sins of the world".


b4d748  No.784134

>>784113

It just seems like a way to explain away the more dramatic implications of the eachaton


d29cbf  No.784496

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The problem in this article is it doesn’t provide any sources or proof of anything that can remotely resemble of what supposed to happen post 1000 years of peace unless someone can assemble some historical records from 1066-1070 AD that can match the verses. Also Revelation 21 makes it pretty clear that the New Jerusalem is going to be a physical one and not only spiritual as the article writer keeps claiming in his page and comment section (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21&version=NIV) also in the post 1000 years of peace Eden is supposed to be restored and we clearly know that in the current day it is definitely not (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22&version=NIV). The only way Preterism can work is with the conspiracy theory that 1000 years was artificially added to our timeline and that this is currently the year 1019 and that’s very iffy (pics related as the 18th century seems to have a conflict in dating according to the theory and our accepted timeline)


5190e8  No.784509

>>784496

>and not only spiritual as the article writer keeps claiming in his page and comment section

Oooohhh, those wascawwy Gnotics.


e70e72  No.784546

>>784113

As a millenarian I disagree with it, my beliefs are earlier anyway. This earth would not even be of any of those events had happened at all, at least not in this form.




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