/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>782876

How is one born a Christian?

>>782887

I think he meant people who grew up in Christian families.

>>782887

Cradles.

>>782876

I converted from protestantism. Does that count?

>>782888

Ah.

I became a Christian when I called on the name of Jesus Christ to save me from hell when I was 17. I was a cultural Christian for a year before that, and before that I was an atheist.

I had always seen the world as an evil place and the majority of people as acting incredibly evil. I knew society was on a downhill path and I couldn’t find any secular answers. I had a thought, “the world always says the Bible is wrong and evil, I bet it’s the exact opposite.” So I began to read the gospels. And that’s how my track started to getting saved.

My Mother is basically a witch and i was raised as nothing

>>782897

>My Mother is basically a witch

Want to elaborate?

I was born Catholic and went to Catholic school up until 7th grade. I never stopped believing in God but haven't really gotten into truly living the faith until recently. I don't think it really matters how you come to Christ, but there's a definite tendency for those born into any form of Christianity to not look deeper than just going to church on Sundays, and this breeds agnosticism and apathy. I think I would have come to Christ regardless of my upbringing assuming I had unlimited access to the Internet, like I did growing up. Regardless, God would have found a way for you to know Him even if you were brought up in a different religion, anon, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

>>782876

>not a convert if you were a fedora and came back

Pretty sure that's half the board, and the other half is cradle.

I was a convert, but that was in my teens years ago. You may as well call me a "native".

I was raised by two atheist parents. They weren't like, fedora atheists though - one time I did catch my mum reading The God Delusion so maybe there was a slight fedora tendency there. I found god in my mid-twenties after losing all hope in the world. Looking back now, I struggle to understand how I didn't just kill myself. The life of an atheist is an incredibly depressing one and you spend your day dodging big questions and perusing vice to distract you from your own mortality. Call it all one big cope; but when you have to choose between hopelessness and hope, the choice seems quite clear. I found Pascal to be a real help in organising my thoughts. I feel that for the first time ever I have life in me.

My mother's family is Catholic. My father's family is Methodist. I grew up in both churches. I was baptised Methodist, confirmed Catholic. I broke away from the Methodist church when the old minister retired and they hired a woman. Not that I have anything against women, mind you, but a woman preacher? That dog don't hunt.

>>782876

I was a Hindu before calling the name of Jesus to save me.

I was practically born into it, even though my family went later to follow a more spiritism path. I did catechism in my teenage years, though I lived most of my post puberty life as a filthy atheist and degenerate. Though finally I've seen the errors of my ways, and heard the calling of the church last year, so in some way I also consider myself a convert.

>>782876

I feel alot of anons here are converts, myself included, overall though I'd say through the entire world converts are probably less common

>>782876

>whereas if I were raised another religion I know for certain I would have looked into that religion and discarded most others.

>No idea where I am really going with this, I guess I am just trying to verbalize my thoughts.

Well, that is the default way things play out of course (inheriting our world views from our parents), and God doesn't penalise people for not having been exposed to the true gospel, it's only a problem if people willingly turn away from it once it is revealed to them. If a person actively decides to search for 'the one true religion' later in life for whatever reason however, Christianity does still present a compelling case for any critical neutral observer legitimately looking for the truth, even if some of its followers were lucky enough to just get dumped into it without thinking about it by default. Starting with its sound roots in ancient Judaism:

https://youtu.be/PEg_Oys4NkA

https://youtu.be/-mB_uuAuQTA

then subsequently building up to the reliability of the NT:

https://youtu.be/XqgQ9g2MV_8

https://youtu.be/VjcLlyfJrfc?t=350

and why christianity makes the most sense philosophically:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWsAZ6MZs5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvxmCSx6CNs

That was basically my trajectory for becoming Orthodox after I rejected the atheism I was raised with.

From cradle lukewarm Methodist to edgey nihilist/satanist to Orthodox convert here. Had my eyes opened on 4pol of all places - been a long road but it's worth it.

I'm definitely a convert. When I was a child, I was in a Jehovah's Witness cult with my mother. I never really believed it. My mother eventually quit which caused me to lose two of my best friends(ex-witnesses aren't allowed near current ones) so I developed a low key hatred for religion. Forward to teen hood and I was a mess, nihilism consumed me and almost drove me to suicide. Soon after, I started desiring God's love but could not believe in him, but I wished I could. I started larping as a Crusader online and somehow that turned into the opening of my faith to God. He moves in mysterious ways indeed.

I was raised by an atheist single mother. Fell into typical spiral… hedonism, drug and porn addiction, hookups, and eventually suicidal ideation which lasted a number of years. Like other anons I felt there was something wrong with the world from a fairly young age… I had my first existential breakdown around age 7, lol. When I was maybe 18 the Lord slapped me, but not quite hard enough to get through my thick skull. Explored Gnosticism, Hermeticism, chaos magic, etc…. finally found my way through Plato to Plotinus and Ficino, leading me to St. Augustine. God is good.

>>782887

This, you can be born into other faiths, you can be born Hindu, Buddhist, Islamic or Jewish, but Christianity is a choice always.

I chose it when I felt I had exhausted every last option, after some time as a Jordan Petersonite, I realized that I needed to grab hold of Christ's love and see where it took me, because worldly philosophy is ju

>>783315

…is just insufficent, when you think seriously about it.

>>783315

If you're parents attempt to fulfill the requirement of bringing you up in the faith, then yes, you can be born or at least raised christian/in a christian household. Sage for unnecessary overly anal specificity.

>>782876

I was raised as a muslim, I wish I became a Christian much sooner.

>>782876

Does my case count?

>Grew up in non-Christian family

>Sent to Christian school (not sure which denom was it) because near house

>Heard the Gospel and believe since young

>But as a kid, had no actual idea what it is to be one other than believing

>No idea what is denomination

>Never attend church, except for one time I begged my parents to take me there once

>Never got to convert, maybe it is my parents looking out for me seeing a child still cannot make decisions about religion properly

>Time skip to secondary school, still hold the faith

>College time came, got brainwashed and lose the faith but never was a militant fedora

>Going after one pleasure after another as a terrible adult, lost sight of life

>Stumbled upon imageboard . . . For better or worse

>Stumbled upon /christian/ after being a /pol/ack (but again was never militant), lurked for a long time before posting about converting back

>Was called back by Him, through (you)s

>On the way to BEGOMING ORDODOG right now

>>783376

Welcome home (to Rome) friend :)

Convert here. Atheist family; I wasn't baptised at birth. I crawled out of the existential black hole of atheism, poked and prodded at a few religions such as paganism, Islam, etc., but settled on (Catholic) Christianity as historically reliable and personally transformative. Been almost two years now since I was baptised and confirmed.

Quite frankly I've just been lurking every now and again, not so much as a convert as more of a curious mind. It seems as if me attempting to escape politics instead of basking in it has made me realize that the political sphere is a deterioration of the soul, spirit, and mind. But before I came to this conclusion I can say that I felt sorry for the West's decline of religion and culture becoming more relevant today than ever before. Instead of being a part of what was a part of ancestry people have decided to reject their own because of past actions, and blame the culture that they were apart of rather than that of the actions that were done and why, attack on traditionalism, family, etc etc, I'm sure my point is made clear by now.

However what didn't help my curious mind was my father's and sister's resentment towards Jesus Christ while growing up, never understood it and why it was either, considering our own neighbors, they were Christians no doubt as she had a picture and materialistic symbolism representing Christianity, helped us during rough times, and others it felt like we couldn't leave without a gift of parture sort of speak.

I think that if you were baptized as a child you will ALWAYS be called back to god. Notice how secular folks are always saying stuff like "I have no problem if someone wants to be Christian, but at least let them make the choice to get baptized when they're old enough to understand it." this is straight out of Satan's mouth. If you don't even believe in god, why would you care about baptized babies? It would just be a stupid pointless moistening of a baby to you. Also if you read articles online by Jew York hipsters, a TON of them were baptized and they literally write about how they cannot "shake the indoctrination," as they put it. The Holy Spirit is calling out to them and they've been tricked into thinking its just childhood physchological conditioning.

The day if judgement will be more tolerable for Sodom and gommorah than for people who were reborn and still deny god's love.

I'm a convert. Mother's family was "Methodist" and my father's family was "Catholic". I knew next to nothing about Christianity other than what the media told me. I was a fedora until I experimented with Paganism. After a bad experience, I turned to Christianity.

>>784055

Look, I have respect for the Orthodoxy, dont get me wrong. If it wasn't for the Orthodoxy I would never be as spiritual as I am now. I have more respect for them then the Muslims, but both never could cure me of my iniquity like the Holy Mother Church has. I ment no offense and didn't mean to make it seem like they are the same.

I converted in 2009 and before that I was an /x/-tier occultist. Family wise both of them were irreligious Jehovah’s Witnesses (dad side) and Buddhists (mom side)

>>782876

>whereas if I were raised in another religion I know for certain I would have looked into that religion and discarded most others

And if you looked hard enough, you would have found God there. (or, rather, He would have come to find You).

The word for "the word" is Logos

Jesus IS the logos

Jesus is the perfect man

And his Word goes out through all the cosmos

Also, did you know?

'kosmos' = ‘world’

akosmos = ‘disorder'

I find this psalm to be very comforting. It was true of myself. No human being came to 'convert' me. If they had, they would have failed. I grew up in the church. then i left the church, hard, for many years. God came to find ME. His Word was always there. The universe itself is a testament to its maker.

>Psalm 19 King James Version (KJV)

1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.

>>784741

>kosmos

"Cosmos is originally a Greek word, meaning both "order" and "world," because the ancient Greeks thought that the world was perfectly harmonious and impeccably put in order. We now use cosmos without the idea of perfect order. Now it means, "all of creation," and particularly on the scale of the stars, the planets, the black holes, the other universes, …. "

>https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/cosmos

probably a better source, but that gets at the heart of it i think.

>>784757

Sadly true. The sad thing is that Francis actually has stripped himself of the more fanciful adornments and titles of Pope (and seems to like walking even.. rather than be carried around in a chair). But even his humility doesn't resemble the humble beginnings of Jesus, Mary in the manger, John the Baptist in the desert, the Apostles on the run..

Maybe the average Franciscan monk reflects the way of life (which was partly St. Francis' goal, I think), but it gets lost in higher ecclesiastical levels.