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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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be52b6  No.772695

I was born Muslim. I totally gave up on it for the last 8-9 years and stop going to the mosque as I just wasn't feeling it. Recently, I've been trying to read the teachings of Bible and came across this article:

https://www.jonasclark.com/battling-generational-family-curse/

A lot of you might disagree with it but, it scared the * out of me because it is so true. Anyway, Is there anyway I can baptise myself, like right now? I can't go to a church for obvious reasons but I just truly follow the Bible. Please help. I need to be saved.

Btw I'm a 3rd worlder non-arab sh*tskin.

>inb4 kys

Yep

0a6712  No.772698

Baptism is an act to do to announce your Christian rebirth, it doesn't save you. You are saved by grace, through faith, not of works.


d0e0d0  No.772701

>>772695

>Btw I'm a 3rd worlder non-arab sh*tskin.

None of that matters.


d87672  No.772702

Jesus suffered the cross for his transgressions, your work does not need to be so great and sacrificial, but you must leave to seek us.


3d160a  No.772706

>>772695

You cannot baptize yourself. Someone (who is a baptized Christian) must baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, while intending to join you to Christ. Your input is to have faith in Christ.

If you baptize yourself, it will not be valid. If you get baptized in anything but the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, it will not be valid. If the person baptizing you is not a Christian, it will not be valid. If you do not have faith, it will not be valid.

You can read the following on Baptism: https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/af9sq2/orthodox_catechism_pt_4_what_is_baptism/


ad2695  No.772708

>>772695

What country are you in that you are unable to find the slightest Christian community?


3d160a  No.772712

>>772709

You say this from a Catholic or Protestant perspective, I presume. From an Orthodox perspective, a non-Christian cannot give a valid Baptism.

Actually, OP, let me precise that there are varieties of disagreeing views about Baptism across Christendom. >>772698 is most likely Evangelical or Baptist for example.


8f0921  No.772715

As stated by others, you can't baptize yourself. Pray constantly that God will lead you to someone who can. Trust in Him, the path He has put you on won't be more than you can bear.


3d160a  No.772723

>>772714

In the sacraments, when we convey them, we do not act ourselves, but rather Christ acts through us, the members of His Body. As St. Ambrose says, "the one who baptizes is not Damasus, Peter, Ambrose, or Gregory. We fulfill our task as servants, but the effectiveness of the sacrament depends on You. It is not in the power of man to transmit divine gifts, they are given by You, Lord."

How could someone who is completely outside of the Body of Christ be able to act in the person of Christ? How could a non-baptized person give that which they themself were not given?

Not that it's very important here. I doubt OP would find a non-Christian, most likely a Muslim, who would be happy to baptize him as a Christian, anyway.

Also, OP, if you sincerely seek Christ and His Church, you will not be automatically condemned. Catholics call it "baptism of desire". If you are on your way to joining the Church, but death cuts your path short, Christ Himself will come to get you and complete your path. Of course, you should still try all you can to be baptized validly, but the whole issue of "which organization is actually the Church today", and the doctrinal implications that come with it, should be resolved first. I am Orthodox, I would tell you that you wouldn't get a valid baptism from a Catholic because they are heretics and do not use the right form. A Catholic would tell you that you can be baptized validly by about anyone who doesn't belong to a fringe cult like the Jehova's Witnesses. And a Baptist would tell you that baptism is not sacramental and not necessary for salvation so it's not an important thing to seek after.


247019  No.772734

>>772712

John the Baptist wasn't baptised.

I honestly have no idea how the Orthodox could not consider that argument enough.


3d160a  No.772749

>>772734

Huh? John the Baptist was the last prophet of the Old Testament. He was saved like the other Old Testament righteous were - when Christ went down into Hell.

>>772729

>Do you really think Christ would bar someone from his body who truly desires to be a part of his body?

I literally said that someone could be saved without being baptized, if one wishes to join the Church but dies before.

>Because by doing so it would allow another person to enter into the body of Christ.

You didn't address the rest of what I said though, which is that sacraments are given by the members of the Body of Christ, through whom Christ Himself acts. Following that logic, an atheist who gives the sacrament of Baptism validly would necessarily become part of the Body of Christ as well.


cd9eb6  No.772753

>>772695

If you don't have access to a church, just reading your Bible and following it is the next best thing.


650441  No.772766

>>772708

'Apostasizing' carries the death penalty in Islam. Even if Christian communities are tolerated, converting from Islam to Christianity is not.


6c1f37  No.772773

>>772695

>Btw I'm a 3rd worlder non-arab sh*tskin.

>>inb4 kys

>Yep

I’m very sorry you’ve been treated that way; no true Christian sould say that to you.

But as the others said, accept Christ as your savior and you’ll achieve salvation, if you haven’t already. And if at all possible try to leave your community that won’t accept Christianity and try to go somewhere, anywhere, where they will if at all possible. You’ll be in our prayers, anon. Godspeed.


148aeb  No.772785

>>772695

>I need to be saved.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house




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