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Hallucinations Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 04:24:37 3028ba No.771948

How do we tell when the appearance of a religious figure isn't a hallucination? And I'm talking more that just the post-resurrection appearances of Jesus to his disciples, his brother, and Paul and to the 500, but also the appearances of Jesus and Mary to popes, other modern religious figures and even children.

My question is as follows

>With religious hallucinations appearing in almost all religions

>with the majority of people experiencing hallucinations at least once in their lifetimes

>and with the fact that hallucinations are so objectively real to the observer (most people who experienced hallucinations can back me up on this)

>and that religion, among other things like depression and grief are known the be triggers of hallucinations

What are some ways we can separate cases that are actually divine and the ones that are naturally occurring phenomena?

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 04:51:00 023cfe No.771954

>They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."

>When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?" They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate it in their presence. (Luke 24:37-43)

The other Gospels have him breaking bread and handing it out. Physical presence. The post resurrection appearances weren't hallucinations.

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 04:52:01 529cee No.771956

>>771948

Discernment

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 04:54:08 30f69d No.771958

1. do the appearances contradict the teaching and authority of the Church, or do they support it

2. are they approved by Church authority or disapproved

3. do they make predictions of the future which come true

4. are the spiritual effects of the appearances in the lives of those whom they effect good or bad

etc.

Basically "we" don't decide, Church authority decides.

If you're including Jesus after the resurrection in your question, though, that's just looney talk.

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 14:20:15 972bcf No.772049

>>771948

Is it a sin to hallucinate God Himself and Jesus?

Asking for myself.

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 14:26:53 366b25 No.772050

>>771948

1: Multiple witnesses (“mass hallucinations” are a myth

2: Physical evidence, like Jesus eating the fish given to Him when He appeared to some disciples after the resurrection (multiple disciples, mind you)

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 14:30:22 588343 No.772052

They're all unbiblical after the new testament era

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 14:34:27 0bb794 No.772054

>>771948

Remember, satan likes to fool people by revealing himself as an angel of light think Mohammed and the supposed angel Gabriel

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 16:14:52 b38b39 No.772080

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>http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/tic/tic05.htm

>The Interior Castle, by St. Teresa of Avila

>2. I thought of the soul as resembling a castle, 1 formed of a single diamond or a very transparent crystal, 2 and containing many rooms, just as in heaven there are many mansions

There's also the Miracles at Fatima and Gaudalupe.

Christanon 02/17/19 (Sun) 22:19:56 190328 No.772195

>three woman (whose word was lower than a dog in that culture) claim Jesus ressurects.

>everyone on their sane mind rejects that even the apostles who had completely lost faith because well they saw him dead

>still St.s Peter and John go there forced by the woman.

>they see no body and St. John starts to believe.

>the rest of the apostles don't buy it, so after the disciples of Emaus tell them He walked with them Jesus shows up and eats fish and bread with them

>St. Thomas being away that day having heard that says they are crazy (he is not alone these days) and only if he touched Him then he would believe.

>Jesus actually shows up and lets him touch His wounds

>"My Lord and my God!"

>then Jesus appears to 500 people.

>during the next 40 days He hangs out with the apostles disappearing and teleporting to locked and selead rooms

>Has one last lunch with the gang and helps them getting more fishes again.

>Goes to heaven to sit at the right side of the Father

>knocks St. Paul of the horse and blinds him making a fanatical persecuter of the Church into one of the best Saints there ever was.

Conclusion.

Either there was a wind coming from Jamaica over Israel and everyone got high or Christianity is true.

most hallucinations in other religions are mostly induced by drugs as part of the rituals