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Progressives who believe themselves to be holier than God.

>>756441

This and what OP said, but only it only applies to ortholarpers I guess not real orthodoxes.

Anyway I included in the pharisees group like 99% of /christian/

The modern "Jews" are an obvious one, with all their greed and using their lies to control, subvert and destroy everything, not to mention they follow their own ways (the Talmund) instead of God like the old pharisees.

Next I'd say anyone who claims to hold the keys to heaven and if you don't get it from them exactly how they hand it to you, you are going to hell, examples of this are the people who scream "The One True Church, outside of which there is no salvation™", KJV-onlyists "Jesus totally spoke English and the Greek is useless".

>Luke 11:52

>“Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

>>756441

I was going to say Jews, but progressives certainly fit the bill as well. There certainly are similarities between Pharisees kvetching about Christ and progressives having meltdowns over Trump (not that Trump is anything like Christ, mind you). They even demand the authorities to impeach Trump as as the Pharisees demanded that the Romans crucify Christ, funnily enough.

>>756404

>>Pastor Anderson and his cult

>LARPs as saved by God, curses and damns people to hell like he's some kind of God's right hand

Evidence needed

>>756469

to be fair, I don't believe Anderson proclaims people damned out in the open, but when he loses control of himself he definitely speaks of them as being the reprobate and speaks of himself as God's chosen*

*he has in fact proclaimed himself a prophet/teacher of God, on video too

>>756490

Where's the lie?

>>756505

>sola fide

Well, first off, he isn't saved.

>>756505

he's a wolf, not a shepherd

>>756507

Isn't your whole dogma that you can't know you're saved?

>>756511

How?

>>756404

>Wou would be the pharisees today?

Probably the Vatican

>>756502

Hope you realize the 3rd pic, is a pic of odin.

delete

>>756461

I've realised that we're all jews nowadays. Europeans are the new jews if you think about it, we were given everything and we're the No1 anti-God people. The fact that some are good only adds to our jewry.

>>756790

No psyop can take root in a clean heart my friend. Although we do live in the worst era as far as spiritual warfare go, we only drag each other down instead of helping.

>>756787

Gee, it's almost like our institutions and the reins of power were hijacked by (((some people)))

>>756787

The story repeats itself doesn't it?

>Jews follow God

>Win wars, find success

>Jews don't follow God

>Get oppressed by foreigners, told to worship idols

>Europeans and other Christian nations follow God

>Win wars, find success

>Europeans and other Christian nations don't follow God

>Get oppressed by foreigners, told to worship idols

Granted the people who have destroyed the west destroyed it and not us, but we kinda let them

Anyone who wants to know every doctrine and rule to show flaws in others, instead of humbly applying what we already know to ourselves, is a pharisee. That includes most of the internet.

People who seriously believe Sola Scriptura.

They usually end up focusing on the letter of the law instead of the spirit of it.

>>756875

How could there possibly be a less pharisaical position on salvation than sola fide?

Scriptura and fide go together

>>756731

Now you're getting it!

jews

>>756404

>It's like those guys religion is the calendar anymore. They can attack other Christians for the calendar

Wow.. no. Their issue isn't merely the old calendar. It's ecumenism and modernism.

And telling how the 20th century turned out, I'm finding it difficult to disagree with them.

And despite being so removed, people still appreciate their efforts (see Holy Transfiguration Monestary and the popularity of their prayer books).

>>756404

>Wou would be the pharisees today?

The pharisees, obviously.

>>756404

/christian/ I think.

>>767485

What popularity? Those guys are not only a very very tiny minority in the Orthodox world that is continuing to dissolve in smaller and smaller groups all the time, they also only attract the worst kind of religious super-"zealots"

And to think that despite all that zealously, they haven't given us a single Saint yet, unlike the "modernists" who've provide us with a ton of them only in the last century. Maybe if spend more energy in living like Orthodox instead of counting days they'd have been more successful in that aspect.

>>767915

That was me who wrote that. I mean their works are popular at least. I don't know much about them personally, but they've done a good service as far translating and providing service and prayer books at least. A lot of Orthodox have their prayer books and psalter. They're very well done. I've even seen an Eikona audiobook of one, if you can believe it. You'd think they'd just take a standard Goarch prayer book, but they recited Htm's instead..which I find kind of interesting.

>>756404

Anyone who acts like pharisee. In Finland we have one evangelic-lutheran woman priest who better not be named for that would glorify her who is spitting image of pharisee. Seeks publicity and constantly brings herself forward as some kind of specially holy person while acting as meek modest person. Spent some time in mental asylum too. She is despite all that ordained priest, bishops are not revoking her priesthood. God help our evangelic-lutheran church back on track for it's a laughing stock of which she is just a visible symptom.

Jews ofc.

It is anyone of us thats hypocrite, it is Christian, but actually not obeyed Him.

>>756404

Cathodox

>>767944

I wasn't talking about those guys specifically but old calendarists in general. Walking around denying salvation to others because they don't count the days like you, while proclaiming youreslf to be God's judge on earth, is textbook pharishaism. To me eyes that's Anderson's Baptist cult tier, not Orthodoxy.

>>756404

The novus ordo popes, bishops and priests. Except as Jesus said with the pharisees you could still do what they said but not what they do as they were hypocrites. With the novus ordo you cannot even do what they say let alone do as they command things that are offensive to God. We have it worse than the pharisees and they gleefully crucify Christ everyday with their new mass abomination

>>768231

Speaking as someone who was raised by a Protestant defector from a Catholic family, someone who never once was brought to a liturgy but only ever knew "Rock band Jesus", when I began inquiring into Catholicism and attending mass with my grandmother I was amazed at the reverence and dignity of the novus ordo liturgy. I am now attending RCIA. It is still mass, it is still the Eucharist, it still glorifies God.

Of course the patrician choice is TLM though

>>756404

SSPX - say ordinary form is a sin

Sedevacantists - reject the authority they claim to revere because they 'know better'

Old Calendarists - schism due to a calendar and personal sins of bishops

Old Believers - what seems like idolatrous adherence to old russian rites

not familiar with prots so idk, Lordship Salvationists perhaps (if you sin you're not saved).

>>756760

Amen.

>>768250

It's is very irreverent to spit on and throw away 2000 years of sacred tradition to embrace Talmud phrases and liturgy coined up on a napkin in an evening at a restaurant.

They call the Eucharist the work of human hands, quoting the psalms that it is a dead idol not God. It was written by protestants and satanists to mock Catholics