/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>753892

>No one knows what it's like to be the bad man… to be the sad man…

The guys who wrote that weren't NEETs.

>>753891

If you clean the house and cook the meals, you are working. Nothing in there says "get a job".

>>753895

Women are exempt from working outside the house if they have a husband. That isn't NEETdome that is just being a loving pious wife. Men are the breadwinners. This thread is for males, specifically betas who still live in their parents basement to grow some balls and go work or at least go back to school. Jesus was a carpenter, so it would be best to get into a trade of some kind.

>>753892

Then I guess you're going to hell man unless you pick your life up and stop being lazy.

>in school for philosophy because I've always been fascinated by it

>tell myself I know nothing, any supposed wisdom I think of is nothing next to God's infinite knowledge

>genuinely enjoy studying even though I strongly disagree with a lot of philosophers, especially the nonbelievers, because it's not a field where I'm required to go along with them

>want to write about philosophy while just living a quiet life putting God first

>almost done with degree

>sudden anxiety causes me to worry philosophy is arrogant, not sure if I should be doing this

>tfw employed full time and on an outreach committee at my church

I don't know how it happened, but I became a normalfag over 2018

>>753897

>Jesus was a carpenter

Jesus spent the last years of his life as a minister. You cannot apply your modern notion of "wake up, punch clock, work 8 hours, punch clock" nor can you apply your modern notion of "woman clean, man drink beer watch game" to Jesus.

Men clean.

Men cook.

Men change diapers.

Get over it,

>>753905

You need a cake for that pity party?

>>753912

Because Jesus is the Son of God and had a ministry. A ministry is a job. Heck, Jesus didn't even get payed for preaching the Kingdom of God, he did it for free. He wasn't some loser who sat around afraid to go preach. Do you really think Jesus was some kind of loser beta male who lived with his parents all his life or who cucked to a feminist modern whore of a wife? Now you are openly blaspheming him by even venturing to compare his ministry with that shit. Repent. Now. Either that or go back to /leftypol/.

>>753925

>A ministry is a job.

But you didn't mention that, did you. You only mentioned his carpenter job.

>taking care of your kids is being a cuck

I will pray that you never have a child.

>>753927

>But you didn't mention that, did you. You only mentioned his carpenter job.

So what? He was a carpenter, he was also a pastor. He had jobs. He wasn't a cuck.

>taking care of your kids is being a cuck

Nice straw man you got there.

>I will pray that you never have a child.

Confirmation that you hate the family. I bet you support fag marriage, don't you? Seriously go back to /leftypol/ or repent.

>>753933

>He had jobs.

Like stealing grain? Mark 2:23

Good job.

>Confirmation that you hate the family

No, I hate YOUR notion of the family because Christ hates your notion of the family. I bet you're the kind who believes that helping your wife with the dishes is only for beta male cucks.

>go back to /leftypol/

How about you go back to /mgtow/.

Does a part-time job count if it’s enoigh to pay the bills?

>>753935

You don't have to be paid for it to be a job. Just do something good for your community.

>>753936

I’m a part-time mailman, so I’d like to think I’m doing something good for the community

>>753904

Great sermon.

>>753934

>Like stealing grain? Mark 2:23

Wow so you accuse Jesus of being a sinner now, huh? You are not Christian.

>No, I hate YOUR notion of the family because Christ hates your notion of the family. I bet you're the kind who believes that helping your wife with the dishes is only for beta male cucks.

Christ approves my notion of the family. He did through St. Paul.

>And so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

>Titus 2:3-5

>"But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

>1 Timothy 5:8

Men are the heads of the household (1 Corinthians 11:3). Men must provide for their own, they must work as the verse above in 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12.

Christ hates YOUR notion of the family because you actually promote something worse than unbelief! You are a heretic and going to hell unless you recant!

>How about you go back to /mgtow/.

I have actually fulfilled the natural order of God's plan by finding a loving caring wife. You, on the other hand, don't seem to have followed God's law.. By all indication in your posts you seem to really hate God. Please repent or go back to /leftypol/.

>>753942

The opposite here.

I was a neet for several years after university and felt awful, now I finally have a job and I’m a lot happier

>>753907

Have you thought about seminary?

>>753945

>BAWWWWWW!

Your entire thread is stupid and you should feel stupid. You can't sit here and make a thread where you lash out about the speck in your brother's eye while ignoring the mote in your own. You need to repent your pride. Now.

>>753942

Similar situation except after getting a job I eventually wished for a return to NEEThood and now are just as bored as before, I'm looking for work of course but getting employed seems to be a nightmare

I just want a Job were I don't have to speak to normals, its so tiring

>>753891

>If you're a NEET, then get off this board and go find a job or go back to school. If not, you are a loser. It's a hard truth but it is the truth.

That's all fine and good, but I'd prefer this board to be lively as possible. The ratio of bad threads isn't even that bad either. It's active and often a decent way to spend time.

Also, never let one sin be the hell you die on. You'll end up kicking around otherwise decent people, but then fellating some pedophile, simply because he has a job.

No, seriously.

>>753953

>>753945

>two people that profess Christ are telling each other to repent for having contrasting ideas instead of forgiving one another as we are commanded

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>>753953

So trying to motivate people is judgmental and hypocritical now?

>>753960

>So trying to motivate people is judgmental and hypocritical now?

I don't think so. But why here? 8chan? Really?

>>753962

Because why not? All the NEETs flock here.

>>753963

>Crying to mommy

>not a faggot

>>753957

I see only one of the two actually professing Christ. You know who claims Jesus allowed his Apostles to steal grain: Muslims.'

>>753960

Nothing says "motivate" like insulting people and denigrating them, right?

>>753965

Hey I'm just trying to help defeat sin by cleaning up this board.

>>753970

Never insulted anyone. Telling the truth. Was Jesus insulting the Pharisees when he call them vipers and hypocrites? No, instead he was shoving the truth right in their face to motivate them to come to the Kingdom of God. Unfortunately, like the little pussies they were, they got Pilate to crucify him. Are you going to do the same to me now?

>>753974

I wouldn't be here if I couldn't handle people disagreeing with me.

>>753971

>Hey I'm just trying to help defeat sin by cleaning up this board.

Is there really a need to clean up the board? I barely see any "shitposts". Lots of disagreement, yes, but it's genuine theological discussion most of the time. Not trolling or bad threads all over the place.

>>753982

>barely see any shitposts

Keep lurking.

God forbid my existence is so horrifying to OP's eyes. I should bow down to OP's true wisdom and do exactly what he says! Surely he is Christ returned and is sinless since he clearly doesn't mind throwing stones.

>>753983

>Keep lurking.

Been here off and on for awhile. I honestly don't see it. And when it happens, it doesn't seem to be /christian/ (but /pol/ or some paganlarper or atheist or all of the above).

>>753984

>preaching the gospel makes me somehow prideful now

>>753987

You're not preaching the gospel. You're using it as an excuse to be an asshole.

>>753987

>>preaching the gospel makes me somehow prideful now

The Gospel is specifically the "good news". You're teaching ethics, which is cool.. but slightly different.

>>753894

its implied that the singer knows the nobody as the general other, the listener and the singer being the individual who knows what its like to be the bad/sad man; they werent neets because they were professional musicians but the lyrics suggest they once were neets

Pete Townsend was/is a pedo. Even if he is a rich rockstar.

>>753907

Also forgot to mention that I have school debt to repay and I'd feel guilty leaving/changing education at this point when my family helped me afford this education.

>>753948

I had at one point, though now I'm concerned with if I'm in the right denomination and have to figure that out, and then it would be a while before I could think about seminary again. Also I'd have to pay off debt from my current education first.

>>753990

I'm not too sure anyone in The Who was ever a NEET, considering where and when they grew up.

society hates us

women hate us

now god… being an honest neet is sure difficult these days

>>754020

John 15:18-25

If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’[a] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. Whoever hates me hates my Father as well. If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’

>>754020

God doesn't hate you. You're still alive at least.

Also, that passage has a larger context about Apostles and other ministers specifically. Paul always made a point to show he would take nothing from these churches, unlike some opportunists who were leading them. He even got himself a little job making tents for travelers, so as "not be a burden" to anyone. He only asked that the churches give their money to help out the persecuted church in Jerusalem especially, and collected for that purpose only. But he felt bad even as an Apostle to ask for payment.

So while this passage about work applies to everyone, it applies to the one "whom much has been given" MOST OF ALL. And yet many of the preachers who use it don't have jobs themselves. They're not nearly as important as Paul or ANY Apostle, and yet they still accept salaries and consider preaching the gospel "a job". It's a copout, according to him. And not only that, many beyond mere comfort off of their congregations.

And then in the same breath, these people insult Catholic or Orthodox, who often do try to find a simple life, and to live up to this. I've seen nuns who clump together in a small house and share an old car.. or just live in a convent.. then teach at schools or make products of some kind. I've known Orthodox priests who've had sidejobs, or even their wife worked if he needed time to study.. they don't just live well solely doing religious work.

>>753940

if ur delivering spam then no

>>753940

That sounds pretty interesting, anon

>>753934

>notion of family

>wife is physician, husband is freelancer

>someone has to take care of the house and children

>the right thing according to you would be for a physician to stop healing the sick and housekeep

Sit down and calm down, stop browsing /pol/ and stop projecting so hard.

>>754286

>implying said couple can't make it work with traditional family values and someone has to stop working

This is your mind on modernism

>>754288

Someone DOES have to stop working when children arrive.

It is wrong for both parents to work full-time when they have kids.

Fact.

>>754290

>implying one can't work a schedule around it

Seriously, just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.

>>754297

>>754290

I'll have to agree with him though, when kids come they need their parent's support and education, nothing worse comes from the lack of motherly affection and a fatherly figure. These can lead to deep rooted psychological issues later on. eg I've been there

So on the topic, I'm needing to cast off my current neetdom and searching for a job.

Today I went to a job interview at Outback restaurant as a waiter, I've worked there some years ago, while it was fine and a good way to earn some money. Its something very demanding and usually consumes every chance a decent social life, because you have to work through literally weekends and spare time. This became more apparent today when an manager acquaintance interviewed me, she seemed stressed and worked out, we are coming out of a economic crisis in my country but the situation is still pretty winnie the pooh bad, with a lot of people going on for the chance of a single job.

I wouldn't mind the time occupation, but I do mind the tremendous wageslaving, I still need to study and improve myself on the hopes of finding a proper job in the area I want, which is aircraft maintenance, and that could pose a real trouble, not to mention keeping me from the search of community, going to church, working out, reading and etc.

While I do think working is necessary, I think there is a line there. No point in wasting your time, healthy and sanity if you're not improving yourself, and it personally felt, since I am returning a job a long left behind, that its somehow retrogression. After work is precisely that, exchanging your life's time for money. But it can be worth it depending on how you do it. So I ask you fellow /christian/s, what do you think? Should I go for it just to get myself occupied, or pray and in the hopes for that a job more suitable comes my way?

>>754311

Granted, the job market is rigged for max hours and the least pay, at least at the low score jobs.

I live in eastern europe which is poor because of communism and rampant corruption since its fall.

Honestly, a lot, and I mean a lot of people who have those low score jobs are even more depressed than many neets. The situation is improving with the years in passing, but it's still a slog of economic recovery.

>If you're a NEET, go to school

School wasn't the missing link of the chain in the first place - pay was.

NEET is just newspeak for unemployed, and someone who applies his best efforts in non-professional capacity is still unemployed. Mass unemployment is a product of globalism and is here to stay until either an entire new form of employment is invented or society undoes the past 40 years of 'progress.'