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I just started Confessions by st. Augustine.

reading the benedict option right now. its boomer pro-israel garbage overall, but it has some wisdom in it and its definitely worth a read.

i think next i'm gonna read By Man Shall His Blood Be Shed: A Catholic Defense of Capital Punishment by edward feser. i don't know anything about it, but it popped up in my amazon recommendeds and it looks interesting, anyone read it?

>>748849

Just started "Becoming" by Michelle Obama and am almost done with "Broken Things" by Lauren Oliver.

>>748939

Tried reading it but its bad. I should have known it would be by how much mainstream press it got. I'll have to get the other one thow. Thanks.

I'm reading through the Divine Comedy, almost done with the Inferno. I tried reading it before, but the translation I read back then was written in a way that put me to sleep every time I tried to read it. I'm reading John Ciardi's translation now and it's much better.

>>748939

I pirated that book and read a little of it. It makes some solid arguments for capital punishment. Ed Feser's stuff is always good.

Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.

>>748942

are you an actual homosexual?

>>748985

No, I just don't LARP that I'm reading some "holy lofty marble encrusted super duper" books. OP asked and I gave an honest answer instead of trying to pretend I'm sitting in a monk's hovel reading ancient tomes.

I'm waiting for my book to arrive.

"Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma" by Ludwig Ott.

>>748991

the mom-fiction i can understand if thats what you're into, but really, michelle obama? why on earth would you read that?

Bible, psalms

>>748995

I like politics. Funny thing is, though, if I said I'd read Trump's book, I'd be met with praise and ass licking. Such is the state of /christian/.

Currently reading through Numbers.

After reading the entire NT first its mindblowing all of the parallels between what was said in the OT and what occurred in the NT

>>748998

>trump

>anti abortion

>puts conservative judges into the supreme court, one of which is catholic

>obama

>pro abortion

>is literally a muslim

yeah, weird how a christian board would prefer one to the other.

>>748998

>I like politics

Doubt

>Funny thing is, though, if I said I'd read Trump's book, I'd be met with praise and ass licking. Such is the state of /christian/.

No, not from me at least. Especially if you mean "Art of the Deal", there really is nothing good about learning such a vulgar trade.

Trump makes me laugh sometimes, but I didn't even vote for him.. and not sure the Supreme Court will really change anything. America is broken by design.

I'm just re-reading the scriptures (started around church calendar beginning). I must have read them many times, but never front to back, funnily.

>>748939

Anything by Ed Feser is good

With Epiphany coming up, I'm re-reading Psalms and Ephesians. Otherwise, just whatever junk book I have laying around.

Phillipians and Collosians I read almost weekly. They're my favorite epistles. I just finished CS Lewis' The Great Divorce.

>>749022

>The Great Divorce.

whats it about?

>>749026

The Great Divorce is a fictional account of what souls in hell experience in the afterlife.

Specifically, souls from hell are brought to the edge of heaven once a year and are shown its beauty and asked to enter. These souls, still obsessed with themselves, refuse repent and choose to stay in hell.

It's a fairly decent illustration of the brokenness and wickedness of fallen man's soul. The dialogues consist of a person who is in heaven trying to convince an old friend or aquitance, who is in hell, to come to heaven.

I'll leave it at that. It was a good read.

the second book of History of the Christian church by philip schaff, 1 Corinthians and nipping on the Gulag Archipelago.

I honestly don't know *what* to start reading. Can someone give me like a book to start with? Books on the Christian theology, etc.

>>749093

The Canon Revised is a good start. It addresses the objections by secularists regarding the origins of the New testament.

>>749111

Triggered Americans in 3, 2, 1…

>>749097

Thank you, anon.

>>748849

Any recommendations for a beginner christianity book? An illustrated bible would be great (not drawings but additional notes/texts beside the biblical scripture I mean, sorry if not the right word).

I'd like advice on how to get more into the christian faith, the churches near me or not ones I'm interested in because reasons. Books would be a good way for me to explore on my own.

>>749135

replying to myself here: Mere Christianity by C.S Lewis looks good

>>748998

>>748849

Is it worth my time?

https://www.amazon.com/Sword-Serpent-Taylor-Marshall/dp/0988442558

>>749335

Not that guy, but Secret Teachings of All Ages is simply an overview of all religions that have ever existed. Or at least, that Hall knew of.

>>749147

It's not just western, but I guess you could skip the other chapters.

I am currently reading Black Edelweiss - war memoirs. Apart from that I try to read Scripture. When I am done with the war stories I will probably move to church fathers.

>>748873

>>748852

>>749141

Nice

>>748942

> "Becoming" by Michelle Obama

hard to believe anyone reads those books - as well as "Trumpwave" literature.

But well everyone's got a different taste I guess

>>748849

More than a Carpenter by Josh McDowell

im trying to read the bible and the going is really slow

i heard youre not supposed to read it like a novel (front to back) is there a preferred order im supposed to read it in?

>>750447

Fun read maybe. Personally I would not read it because it would probably be a waste of time. For fun I mostly meet friends, go out. When reading I prefer serious stuff.

That's just me though.

>>750461

How about getting a calendar/subscribe to daily readings of a particular church and then stick to it. You read what you read. If you feel like it take one book apart from this and read it regardless, perhaps a page a day or so.

That's my system

Finishing Selected Writings - Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera.

A good read.

>>748849

The Communist Manifesto

It's really confusing though. Marx sucks. He's a bad man.

>>752280

Yeah I remember when I read it.

Tear down family, tear down nations, tear down religion.

Pure poison. One needs to read that to understand bolshevism

Religious Vocation: An Unnecessary Mystery by Fr. Richard Butler

Sort of off topic, but it has to do with books so…

What is meant by Ecclesiastes 12: 11-12? I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as "don't read/write books outside the Bible" or even "don't read/write about things other than God and Christianity" though it might be a caution about other kinds of wisdom books or false teaching? Not sure.

Can I get some recommendations for Christian books on audible?

I like to listen to books while I work

>>753943

there is always text to audio converters but some sound too synthetic. But some might be fine.

Just finished Tom Soyer, now on to Cuckleberry Finn.

Libido Dominandi by E. Michael Jones

Libido Dominandi.

What do you guys think about Meditations on the Tarot?

I’ve got Robert Hugh Benson’s ‘Come rack! Come Rope!’ after hearing about his Lord of the World book.

>>754555

It's wonderfully articulate heretical trash that brought me back to the faith, but heretical trash nonetheless. The wheat can easily be found in the notable mystics of the Church, particularly the spanish, and the chaff is the kind that plays off of the same air of secret wisdom that leads people to seek gnosticism out of pride. It would be a competent bridge from the occult to the Church if readers could expected to separate said wheat from said chalf, as I, by God's grace, was able too, but sadly I see no reason to believe so.

>>749145

Melanchthon's Treatise is top tier

The Protocols.

>>749137

Liberalism in this context doesn't mean "leftist" like it does in an American context. It means something more along the lines of putting man as the measure of things, centering society around rational thought, and enlightenment values, with a focus on liberty, democracy, equality and so on...

I am currently reading Apologia Pro Vita Sua.

>>754882

>I only wonder how so many profligate writers such as Nietzsche and Sartre could have read and loved his works and yet continued to promote their atheist and arrogant philosophies

It's amazing how many people love that book yet completely miss it's message. Even Hilary Clinton claimed that it's her favorite novel. I guess the themes just go over their heads.

>>754885

>Even Hilary Clinton claimed that it's her favorite novel. I guess the themes just go over their heads.

Exactly, the sheer arrogance of someone like that who can read of Alyosha's final speech and continue in their infirmity astounds me, not with contempt, but just sheer confusion. I think their simplicity of intellect can be an explanation (not excuse) for some, but for others I can only think of pride as an explanation for that level of mental gymnastics and willful-ignorance; they either think they know better, or simply chose wickedness regardless out of convenience or weakness. Probably the greatest tragedy about the book is people's not adopting or at least understanding it's message.

>>754566

Thanks for the info. I guess I'll skip it, then.

>>748939

Any books about a Catholic defense against the charges of paganism?

>>754882

Should I read Crime and Punishment before reading this?

>>754798

Western liberalism is just a logical conclusion of

>muh liberty

>muh equality

>muh democracy

Either in its most extreme form or its more subtle form…it's still the same thing.

>>755116

It's really not. . . Totally different perspectives on

> The role of the state

> The role of the individual

> Freedom of speech (of thought really)

> Different definitions of freedom on general

It's a confusion of terms. The one anon is talking about is a product of the enlightenment, Voltaire et al whereas progressive liberalism in the other sense of the word is a product of Marxism. The former was and is all about the liberation of the individual in the pursuit of realising his full potential in the world free of the tyranny of state and church. The latter was and is about the liberation of classes of peoples from the oppressions of other classes. Eg. the bourgeoisie/proletariat economic oppression which developed into what we have today in identity politics. The difference between the two is most clearly seen today in the free speech debate.( See for example: https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/01/04/we-must-be-free-to-criticise-islam/ which a classical liberal could easily say but a progressive (american) liberal couldnt as minority rights need protection.) What the two have in common is they both place man at the centre with no place for God so if that's what you mean we are in agreement. But they go about their business with different modes of discourse which need be recognised of they are to be spoken against in the public sphere.

Inb4 getting called a /pol/ock, but I tried reading Mein Kampf just to see what it said, but i gave up on it. Most recently finished the Rule of St. Benedict, will try to see if I can find the Rule of St. Basil and start the Sayings of the Desert Fathers.

I started reading David Copperfield

>>755075

>Should I read Crime and Punishment before reading this?

I think Brothers Karamazov is the better of the two, honestly. But ultimately it depends entirely on what you are interested in. Crime and Punishment is a bit shorter and better for people interested in penance and are newer to Christianity, while Brothers' message is best for those struggling with faith and learning to love other people. I definitely recommend reading both, though.

Currently read Behold A Pale Horse. Should have picked up a copy years ago.

>>749118

Actually the majority (perhaps slim) would are conservative and would probably agree that liberalism is a sin, if they were believers that is.

You would be surprised at the number of Christian conservatives in America.

>>753930

bump

I read Twilight over England by William Joyce. Quite an interesting read

>>748849

I'm planning on reading "Absolute Surrender" by Andrew Murray in the near-future

>>758825

Good choice anon.

>>758756

Looking forward to Libido Dominandi.Would like to read barren metal first…but I do not have the book

Thinking about it reading really is the thing that separates you from being a dull mass. You won't find enough food for thought in tv/series, etc. In order to get to the truth you have to read.

>>748849

I've been reading Edward Feser's Intro to Aquinas and The Last Superstition.

>>759773

can find it here:

http://robertlstephens.com/essays/shafarevich/001SocialistPhenomenon.html

>>753930

Self-bumping my own question. I know it might sound ridiculous, but I genuinely want to be sure.

>>760016

So basically just a warning against modernism, secularism, and atheism/nihilism?

"A Textual History of the King James Bible" (written by Norton..who also did the Paragraph KJV). It's kind of interesting how many odd variations there are of the KJV.. even after the advent of the printing press (or zealous printers/Protestants mangling things).

>>760559

I'm surprised he's a converted Orthodox, with a title like that. Seems interesting enough though, but I don't think I'm going to get anything out of it personally. I practically live that way already. But he appears to be coming from an activist conservative/political point of view.. and discussing "cultural wars" and whatnot. People who heavily invested in the way the world runs. Maybe it's more appealing to them.

>>748998

Politics? She was the wife of a President. You can read whatever you want and I am myself not someone who reads lofty pretentious titles, but seems strange you would spend time on that out of all things.

>>760582

all right. I will give it a try. Seems like quick read anyway.

>>758756

Just finished. Really interesting book if you want an alternative view of history.

I'm reading Rule and Exercises of Holy Living by Jeremy Taylor.

I finished Rule and Exercise of Holy Dying a while ago.

It's really well written.

>>748849

Potestas Clavium by Lev Shestov.

On page 520 of Libido Dominandi. Pretty great book would definitely recommend to all.

>>763448

I'm coming at it right now. No time to wait.

I have started reading "Men among the ruins". It seems like a great book but it takes longer time to digest it so I prefer one chapter at a time approach and even another more leisure book at the side has made it for me.

This has worked very well with Revolt Against the Modern World

>>762903

I've yet to start Everlasting Man. What do you think of it so far?

Reading Libido Dominandi.

So far it's pretty good. Recommended

>>748849

https://8ch.net/pdfs/index.html

>>767869

Also reading Lewis' Screwtape Letters.

Piano for Dummies. I memorised a string of notes from the main theme of Crash Bandicoot 1 so that was nice but ultimately, I don't musically understand anything so I hope to remedy that.

Who knows? Maybe some day I'll play the etudes of Liszt!

>>768273

>Belloc

nice I have him in my e-library too.

However I am stuck in the middle of "Men among the ruins" and "libido dominandi"

Does anyone have any good book recs on the problem of evil? Also looking to build my library in anticipation of kids, any good catechesis recommendations?

>>755148

Reading this right now and it's pretty epic.

Joseph Ratzinger - Spirit of the Liturgy

>>768433

It is. I definitely want to read Nest leader's manual and the Prison Notes. But I am unable to find the prison notes

>>767931

>The Modern Witch Book of Tarot by Skye Alexander (I'm a curious fellow and never got the point of those cards.)

For playing games. Read Dummett and Mcleod. As someone who plays French tarot and czech taroky often enough, and also latin suited card games, the tarot cards pretty soon lose any mystique they may seem to have.

What is your take on Rene Guenon?

Is he worth reading?

>>769879

>Muslim

>Worth reading

You decide.

>>769879

>Is he worth reading?

Maybe, Seraphim Rose did and his interest in Eastern spirituality ultimately lead him to Orthodoxy. As a Christian I'd recommend Wolfgang Smith instead.

>>754724

top tier.

As for me, I'm on part 2 of City of God. Helps to have the bible open, so I can constantly review his references, and gain a deeper understanding on his arguments

>>768599

If you do find the Prison Notes, hit me up with that pdf or I'll have to learn Romanian

I've got a copy of Institutes of the Christian Religion on the way, so that'll occupy me for some time.

I'd also like to get my hands on Calvin's commentaries, Spurgeon's Sermons, some of John Owen's works, and Turretin's Institutes of Elentic Theology.

>>772679

The protocols were really good thing to read. It was on to read list for a long time.

City of God. I recently downloaded the book. Intend to read it soon. I expect it is useless to ask whether it is good.

>>772680

All right. But after searching for half a year I have little hopes of finding it, unfortunately.

As far as the guard/codreanu is concerned I got:

>For my legionaries

>Nests leader's manual

>the history of th elegionary movement - Sima

>Anti-humans

>some other book about history of legionary youth

Do you have Barren Metal - EMJ? that is also one book I have been looking for for some time

>>772867

I also got "tragedy of Iron Guard" by Julius Evola

Just have read Tragedy of Iron Guard - Evola.

If you do not know anything about the Guard/you did not read For my Legionaries, this short article is a fine introduction. It features many quotes and outlines the overall spiritual ideas of Codreanu

>>749144

What’s this like? Can I get a tl;dr? How are you liking it?

reading God's battalions: the case for crusades atm

Reading Hammer of the patriot.

>>772680

Hey. I have found pdf in Romanian. Perhaps we could use translator to turn it into english. Better than nothing. But google translate does not swallow more than 5000 characters and other translators are even worse.

What do?

>>748849

I'm reading the deuterocanonical books in The New American Bible translation.

Starting with Tobit.

>>748849

Just finished College Apologetics by Fr. Anthony Alexander. Great book on the basics of proving the Catholic religion. Very accessible too.

Right now I’m bouncing back and forth between J.F.D Kelly’s Early Christian Doctrines and How Christ Said the First Mass by Fr. James Meagher.

>>748849

The Rule of the Master as part of my Monastic studies. Also rereading the bible as usual. Currently on 1 Samuel.

I have just finished Libido dominandi.

Now I am moving on to "In Praise of the new knighthood" by st. Bernard.

Also finished Metaphysics of war. Worth reading

If you need sources where to search for books:

http://libgen.io/

https://b-ok.cc/

https://archive.org/

https://8ch.net/pdfs/index.html

The Bible ;)

>>772867

City of God is basically a compendium of western philosophy, so except to learn a lot more than just Christian theology. If you don't know anything about the Greeks and Romans and their histories, this book will most certainly introduce you

>>777732

Good. just what I need.

>>777686

I finished In Praise of the new knighthood.

Now I will read "Handbook of the rightwing youth"

Then I will move to City of God finally.

>>778157

The metaphor of your soul as a castle composed of a single diamond is an awesome image I use in my meditations. It synced perfectly with a piece of mystical wisdom I derived from the Bible;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/1-corinthians/15.html

>37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not the body that shall be: but bare grain, as of wheat, or of some of the rest.

Grains such as wheat contain lignin. Keep that in mind;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/matthew/3.html

>11 I indeed baptize you in water unto penance, but he that shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire.

A laser (The Fire) applied to wood (Rich in lignin; the grain/wheat) produces graphene (Metaphorically the diamond;)

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28737226/

>Laser-Induced Graphene Formation on Wood.

>Here, a facile approach is reported to transform wood into hierarchical porous graphene using CO2 laser scribing. Studies reveal that the crosslinked lignocellulose structure inherent in wood with higher lignin content is more favorable for the generation of high-quality graphene than wood with lower lignin content

The Bible prophesied something intimately improrant to me, and St. Teresa gave me the conceptual tool to realize it.

>>772680

The paperback and ebook on Amazon is pretty cheap.

Roger Scruton; The Soul of the World

It's a good book, at least so far. I'm primarily trying to find new ways to evangelize by stealth and subterfuge because I'm too bashful, polite and English to make known my convictions without appending a philosophical proof.

I'm digging through the classics. Going to try to troop it out through Aquinas' Summa Theologica. I really want to read the "Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture" collection, but the price is ridiculous.

im just starting the old testament listenin to some lo fi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMF7vGt0bs

Enchiridion militis Christiani - Handbook of a Christian Knight by Erasmus.

I could only find it in old english so its hard for me to follow at times but still im enjoying the lessons.

I'm currently about to start Leviticus and Acts and I'm also reading the Ladder of Divine Ascent and biography on Father Seraphim Rose. I hope to certainly finish The Ladder before Lent ends.

>>784146

I've been thinking about picking that one up, have you learned things that are useful for our accursed day and age or is it more of an interesting historical work?

>>784208

Well, knowledge for virtuous living is timeless so it doesnt exhaust itself as simply historical.

REad this article and see if it interests you, it got bits of the book:

http://ahistoryofthepresentananthology.blogspot.com/2013/02/excerpts-from-erasmuss-handbook-of.html

>>784514

https://archive.org/details/bookcalledinlati00erasuoft/page/222

You have it here in various different formats. I got the simple .txt.

Pascal et saint Augustin - Philippe Sellier

It's about how Blaise Pascal was influenced by Saint Augustine. It's fantastic but it's a difficult read.

>>784115

A short version would be to say that Roger Scruton rapes and pillages his way through evolutionary psychology, neurophilosophy, and cognitive science leaving no survivors. He very eloquently defends cognitive dualism, and then takes people to task who hope to understand "consciousness" by arguing that really the self-consciousness of humans is a different animal entirely, something which is actually the "first premise" which lies behind all thought, and is placed on the limit of nature in some relation to a Christological God.

Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy by Father Damick. Fascinating read on how Orthodox Catholicism relates to just about every other denomination of Christians, from Anabaptists to Quakers.

>>787476

Is it not great how he can whirl between hilarious and profound without skipping a beat?

>>754558

Have you read Lord of the World? It's one of my favorite books, I highly recommend it

"The Truth about What Really Happened to the Catholic Church After Vatican II" by Bro. Michael Dimond

"The Anti-Modernist Reader" by Fr. Anthony Cekada

"Work of Human Hands: A Theological Critique of the Mass of Paul VI" by Fr. Anthony Cekada

"Orthodoxy and Catholicism: A Comparison", by Dave Armstrong

"The Right Side of History", by Ben Shapiro

>>784133

How is the secret of the rosary? Never heard of it but I don't feel like I'm praying the rosary very effectively.

>>748849

Reading brave new world rn

>>748944

it's a black version of that male bodyguard from Game of Thrones

>>791037

It's pretty good. Montfort gives some pretty practical advice about how to pray the Rosary more effectively, especially in how to avoid speeding through it (which he emphasizes is probably one of the worst things you can do when praying it).

>>791861

I've seen this guy posted here before, but I don't know who he is.

>>791995

Alojzije Viktor Stepinac

>>791995

>>792013

He was showtrialed by communists and declared a martyr and beatified by Pope John Paul II.

He's a controversial figure though.

Joined a Bible study group at church. Its going from Genesis to Revelation over several years if it doesn't fizzle out.

>>792094

thanks will read that book. Exactly my type

>>792794

>what's your excuse for not having read this book?

I'm not a power-fantasy having, self-stroking /pol/ack with daddy issues.

I'm sitting at home wanting to read, but I've finished everything on my shelf but the Bible (which I like to read in moderation so I better digest it). I need to order more Christian books.

>>792096

>Its going from Genesis to Revelation over several years if it doesn't fizzle out

I do hope it works out for you, as they do tend to fall apart… in the last Bible study group I was part of, there was a member or two leaving every month. I left it after the woman leading it claimed to speak for God, kek.

>>792844

Everyone look, this guys better than Saint John Chrysostom! How holy!

>>792801

>Saint John Chrysostom is a power-fantasy having, self-stroking /pol/ack with daddy issues

WEW

>>792904

Look at this guy, he thinks one church father is enough to ignore Jesus' parables, how holy!

>>792906

>Saints are infallible and sinless

WEWx2

>>792919

Just because YOU interpret parables in some way that does not make chrysostom wrong.

If you read the book you would know there is hardly any "hatred", there is an honest desire to protect church against judaic disease and to convert jews to one true faith.

>>792844

>anything politically incorrect it hate

>it is because I/jews claim so

>>792801

lame excuse actually. Looks like you are too afraid to read the book to learn something that would contradict your worldview.

Just so you know..chrysostom is not /pol/ because /pol/ was nonexistent then. Which is quite obvious. Also his book is not used on /pol/ because of the pagan larping

>>792921

Nobody says that. However discarding his whole homilies on the basis of feels being inconvenient in the current age is pathetic.

If you're convinced about what you believe in you should be able to read the book without changing your views.

I still think the opinion of st.John Chrysostom is of more value than yours or of >>792844 no offense really.

The guy warns the whole church even to this day.

>>792921

bad-mouthing Saints is actually a form of blasphemy

>>792947

Some of the greatest Saints were also the greatest sinners. There is no blasphemy in pointing out the truth.

>>792931

>too afraid to read the book to learn something that would contradict your worldview

That book isn't what people think it is. I've actually read it and it's not "lol h8 jooz!" It's about judaizers in the Church and has little to do with actual Jewish people or their religion.

>not /pol/ because /pol/ was nonexistent then

/pol/ mentality has always existed, regardless of what it was called.

>>793063

Attacking Saints whom cannot defend themselves against malicious personal attacks (at least, not in -this- time) doesn't sound very Christian to me.

I mean (>>792801) do you really think St. John C was a "power fantasy-having, self-stroking /pol/ack with daddy issues"? How in the world is this guy from 1,600 years ago a /pol/ack?

>>793067

John C was not that. Anyone who spams it everywhere because of the title is a "power fantasy-having, self-stroking /pol/ack with daddy issues". Literally not one single other work by John C has been even passingly mentioned ITT, which means the poster of the book doesn't actually care about John C. The poster just wants an excuse to show his righteousness in his hatred of Jews.

Just. Like. A. /pol/ack.

>>793066

>It's about judaizers in the Church and has little to do with actual Jewish people or their religion.

If you read the book you would know it talks fairly enough about jewish religion because he dismantles it to help the christians keep from being judaized.

The only person here claiming "muh j00z" is you.

I am not using the book as a meme. I have actually read it.

>>793063

>There is no blasphemy in pointing out the truth.

Sure..if it is the truth but this is not the case.

>>793068

Wew lad. You do not even know me and you know what I read or did not read. are you clairvoyant or something?

>Literally not one single other work by John C has been even passingly mentioned ITT, which means the poster of the book doesn't actually care about John C.

So you talk about the authors you read all the time non-stop? all right man.

>The poster just wants an excuse to show his righteousness in his hatred of Jews.

So now you want to convince yourself that recommending a book is really not about the book. lol. man you are pathetic. So I recommended st. Augustine here why? another great theory for that?

Oh you're that guy with reddit spacing. ok

>>793136

>you talk about the authors you read all the time non-stop

Well it IS a book thread.

>reddit spacing

Oh, you're one of those. ID filtered.

>>793068

Also I do not mean to be uncharitable or mean. But I actually got a ban for spamming that.

Otherwise I am far from "self stroking polack with daddy issues". My father is a great man and as far as "stroking" is concerned I am almost one year and half on nofap . I hope you're doing this well in this respect since you insult people just because they recommend people to read some book you dislike.

Or are you projecting your insecurities on others? It seems to me so.

I did not spam it because of the title. I spammed it so few people may actually know it exists and maybe read it because it is a good book by a great man.

>>793154

>insults you

>gets offended by you mocking reddit

>ID filtered

ok

>>793154

non argument.

If we talked about every author we read here, we would not do anything else. I read tons of books. Does the fact that I did not discuss Charles Dickens here mean I do not admire the guy?

Do not be ridiculous

>>793155

>>793156

>>793157

Don't even bother. This guys so ass-blasted by the /pol/ boogeyman he thinks a guy who died 1600 years ago was LITERALLY a /pol/ack. You're not talking to a person, you're talking to an npc and a protestant.

>>793212

>he thinks a guy who died 1600 years ago was LITERALLY a /pol/ack

Showing your illiteracy in a book thread is a sin.

>>793213

No it isn't. Defending christ-killers is, though.

>>793212

>Don't even bother.

kek. You just post a book and:

>No you did not read the book kid it is something other than you think

>Oh man did you just find the book? cringe

>Self stroking daddy issues man

>Saints were also great sinners I am just pointing out the truth

>No I mean the polack is just the guy who posted it.

>gets hurt by you mocking reddit

>filters you

I do not care if it is uncharitable or anything. It is more of pathetic.

Anyway I wish this Anon/Anons best. Hopefully he/they do not have the issues they project on you when you just post a book by Chrysostom.

I knew this would probably evolve into some kind of dispute but man. I did not expect people going so viciously ad hominem.

>>793213

It is not. But I would argue that insulting a church father in this way is. The funny thing is that my ban was justified as "trying to dishonor a great church father" Simply for giving the picture alongsie random posts in random threads. Here the first posts suggests the book is for "power-fantasy having, self-stroking /pol/ack with daddy issues." and that's fine

Spent a load of money to buy the books that are recommended in The Orthodox Way. Therefore this is the "training regiment" I'll put my girlfriend through so that she can begome ordodox:

- The Living God, pt. 1

- The Living God, pt. 2

- The Incarnate God, pt. 1

- The Incarnate God, pt. 2

- The Orthodox Church

- The Orthodox Way

- The Jesus Prayer

I've already read The Living God (in French). It's a great, although basic, catechism that goes over the events of the Gospels, from the Nativity of Christ to the Second Coming. I notice that the English translation removes a chapter originally titled "Jews and Christians" (I assume because it can be interpreted in a "dual covenant" way) and a chapter originally titled "A Perspective on Orthodox Eschatology" (I assume because of the universalist implications - too bad, because it's a good chapter).

I've aleady read The Orthodox Church and The Orthodox Way too. The Orthodox Way introduces or re-introduces the experienced Christian faith to someone who may not know about it or who may be Orthodox but not practicing. It's really basic but at the same time really good to look back on now and then. The Orthodox Church is interesting on the history side, but almost pathetically simple on the side of doctrine and faith, although it also addresses modern issues that The Living God doesn't touch upon, so it's still worth it.

>>793466

which one is it where Timothy Ware talks about how cool contraception, divorce, and homosexuals are

>>793462

When you're posting a book for no other reason than the shock value of it's title, you are literally a power-fantasy having, self-stroking /pol/ack with daddy issues.

>>793471

What are you talking about and why are you so randomly hostile?

A book on the Chernobyl incident atm, after that I shall start a book on how to live a proper Christian life whilst dealing with SSA.

>>793525

Are you retarded or did you not read what I just wrote here? I read the book and I post it because of its content. Apparently you did not read the book and you're the one with the issues here.

There's nothing "shocking" about the book or its title.

>>793632

this. If a person wanted to shock with the title alone, he would show "on the jews and their lies" from martin luther.

>>793653

Too common. The St. John C book was recently discovered by the anon who posted it ITT and got such a joy-boner about it being "omg le so shocking" that he posted it in literally every single thread until the mods came along and had to [D+] it all.

>>793471

Since this seems to be what you're asking about… Here is what he says about contraception in "The Orthodox Church":

>Concerning contraceptives and other forms of birth control, differing opinions exist within the Orthodox Church. In the past birth control was in general strongly condemned, but today a less strict view is coming to prevail, not only in the west but in traditional Orthodox countries. Many Orthodox theologians and spiritual fathers considerthat the responsible use of contraception within marriage is not in itself sinful. In their view, the question of how many children a couple should have, and at what intervals, is best decided by the partners themselves, according to the guidance of their own consciences.

About divorce:

>The Orthodox Church permits divorce and remarriage, quoting as its authority the text of Matthew xix, 9, where Our Lord says: 'If a man divorces his wife, for any cause other than unchastity, and marries another, he commits adultery.' Since Christ, according to the Matthaean account, allowed an exception to His general ruling about the indissolubility of marriage, the Orthodox Church also is willing to allow exceptions. Certainly Orthodoxy regards the marriage bond as in principle lifelong and indissoluble, and it sees the breakdown of marriage as a tragedy due to human weakness and sin. But while condemning the sin, the Church still desires to help suffering humans and to allow them a second chance. When, therefore, a marriage has entirely ceased to be a reality, the Orthodox Church does not insist on the preservation of a legal fiction. Divorce is seen as an exceptional but unavoidable concession to our human brokenness, living as we do in a fallen world. Yet although assisting men and women to rise again after a fall, the Orthodox Church knows that a second alliance canot have exactly the same character as the first; and so in the service for a second marriage several of the joyful ceremonies are omitted, and replaced by penitential prayers. In practice, however, this second marriage service is scarcely ever used.

>Orthodox Canon Law, while permitting a second or even a third marriage, absolutely forbids a fourth. In theory the Canons only permit divorces in cases of adultery, but in practice it is granted for other reasons as well.

>From the point of view of Orthodox theology a divorce granted by the State in the civil courts is not sufficient. Remarriage in church is only possible if the Church authorities have themselves granted a divorce.

On homosexuality:

>Sexual intercourse is a gift from God, but a gift given for use between man and woman only within the sacrament of marriage. The Orthodox Church for this reason cannot approve of sexual intercourse outside marriage, even when a couple has the firm intention of eventually getting married; the marriage blessing is not to be anticipated. Still less can the Church give its approval to sexual unions between persons of the same sex. But in all specific cases of homosexuality we should of course seek to show the utmost pastoral sensitivity and generous compassion. 'A brother who has committed a sin was driven out from the church by the priest. But Abba Bessarion rose up and went out with him, saying: "I too am a sinner".'

>>793655

Anon you realize that bearing false witness is a sin right? You realize that the time aspect when I read/discovered the book is merely your assumption and nothing more right? You realize that you ridicule yourself with the constant insults?

You also seem to be very let's say "genitals - centered" when it comes to insults. I find that interesting it seems like you're projecting your insecurities or something. Also your claims that "you do not know what;s inside, you just discovered it" imply to me that you did not read the book at all, you do not wish to read it. And moreover you do not wish others to read the book so you insult/ridicule anyone who posts about the book.

I will say it for the last time: I read the book one year ago, after a years time I do not consider it to be "shocking", you apparently do. The reason I shilled the book: So people would look it up and perhaps read it.

Look man: just because you consider it to be "edgy" to talk about eight homilies against the jews by Chrysostom, that does not mean everyone finds it edgy to get "a joy-boner" out of it. If you do that's your issue.

Now let's stop spamming the thread with your projections and insults ok?

>>793658

>>Orthodox Canon Law, while permitting a second or even a third marriage, absolutely forbids a fourth. In theory the Canons only permit divorces in cases of adultery, but in practice it is granted for other reasons as well.

interesting I was wondering where orthodoxy stands with this.

3 marriages seem like a lot though. You know…the whole one flesh and one spirit thing.

>>793525

Maybe he just likes that book? Did that possibility ever cross your mind, or are you so filled with hatred that you automatically assume everyone else is, too?

>>793942

The wedding services differ between first and second marriages too. The first wedding service is themed around the joy and love of God and the union between husband and wife. The second wedding service is more solemn and themed around repentance IIRC

>>794005

RCC has "jury" that can establish the marriage is invalid…but there are specific requirements for it.(The spouse has made secret something vital for the decision to marry, etc.) I am no expert in this because I consider it to be sin anyway and I know that this "process" has been misused few times in my city.

>>793942

I don't want to derail the thread into fighting about divorce, and the book doesn't say more about divorce and remarriage than what I have quoted.

It should be noted, though, that sacraments aren't some kind of legal contract. Our disposition affects them. Someone who does not have faith cannot be validly baptized, for instance. Likewise, the disposition of the couple matters. The bishop or priest gives the sacrament of marriage, so that the married husband and wife may grow to become one like the three divine persons are one, but if one or both of them rejects this grace, and the couple moves in the direction opposite to that which marriage intends, what happens then? They blaspheme the sacrament, like how one would blaspheme the sacament of Baptism by not actually having faith when being baptized, or one would blaspheme the Eucharist by not having faith when receiving it. The Church then has a choice: either to let them preserve the sacrament even as they blaspheme it, with the hope that their love blossoms again and they actually come to embrace the sacramental grace, or else, to take the sacrament away from them, which is divorce. Neither is a good thing and both are cases of economy.

As the book mentions, normally only infidelity is a valid motive for divorce, but recently (well, especially in Russia) other motives have been accepted, being considered a kind of "spiritual infidelity" so to speak (for example, violent abuse, although my Ukrainian priest has told me that in 90% of cases infidelity is the motive for divorce anyway).

As for remarriage, it is done out of mercy, if, for example, someone gets divorced because their partner was beating them or cheating on them but they themself are innocent of wrongdoing. A second marriage is supposed to be penitent, portrayed as a second chance given to sinners, but this second marriage service is hardly ever used now. A third marriage is really exceptional and I don't think I've heard any story about one, but I assume it would happen if, say, one's first partner died and one's second partner also died. It's actually so exceptional that the limit of 3 marriages was instituted because a certain emperor wanted to remarry a second time and the bishop simply could not let it happen. Mercy has been extinguished after a third marriage.

Priests and deacons are held to a higher standard, so they cannot remarry at all.

>>794062

In Catholicism the sacrament is given by the husband and wife to each other, with the priest (or deacon) only being a witness and blessing the union.

In Orthodoxy the sacrament is given by the priest (or bishop), in the name of the Church.

As such it is much more difficult for the marriage to be considered "invalid" in Orthodoxy. There would need to be something wrong with the priest himself. I imagine that if a priest were defrocked, but managed to get taken in by another church without revealing that he is in fact not a priest anymore, and gave the sacrament of marriage to a couple, and it came to light later that he was not actually a priest at the time, the marriage would be invalid, but you can imagine how rare such a situation would be.

>>794067

>In Catholicism the sacrament is given by the husband and wife to each other, with the priest (or deacon) only being a witness and blessing the union.

No I would not say so. The sacrament must be given by priest. Two people cannot marry without priest. There is however the divorce issue somewhat different…But as I have said I think it is a sin anyway. It's kind of dancing around "divorce or not". I know if a case when the case was "not even just" so to say….those people jsut wanted to divorce and then have marriage in church. Well it does not work that way. Once he married the woman they become one flesh.

>>794067

>I don't want to derail the thread into fighting about divorce

Do not worry this thread has been derailed already by the whole dispute about St. John Chrysostom.

>>794072

>No I would not say so. The sacrament must be given by priest. Two people cannot marry without priest.

A deacon can officiate the marriage however.

I might be mistaken about the sacramental theology of marriage in Catholicism, of course - feel free to correct me, I'm not a Catholic. But this is what I was told by a Catholic priest, as well as an Orthodox deacon who is a teacher in seminary, so…

By the way, I forgot to add - here is an edition of the Book of Needs which has both the service of marriage and the service of first remarriage. Since it's in liturgical services that our theology is found, it might be interesting.

https://stjohnalaska.org/files/Service-Books/Book-of-Needs-1.2.pdf

(as you can see, third marriages are so rare that the service book doesn't have it)

>>748955

I started the Divine Comedy just the other day, finished the Inferno today. There's a pretty great LibriVox dramatic reading done for audiobook lovers. I've been blowing through the material which is great for a first reading. I plan on going back with a more fine comb to study the symbolism utilized afterwards using some online lectures. It's been 4 months since your post, what did you think of the Comedy?

>>749041

Isn't it supposed to be purgatory?

>>796813

Wrong thread?

>>796813

>s*rb

>>796811

Nobody "worships" Alojzije Stepinac. I just respect the guy. And for your information the guy is beatified and declared a martyr. So that's why.

This is a book thread. It has been around for months apparently you had no idea who the guy is by the picture. If you want to get into wwii/fascism/bolshevism/etc dispute, create a separate thread for it, do NOT derail the book thread. This thread is about books, not about you disliking a catholic martyr.

Thank you.

>>797024

>Beatified and yet sentenced for war crimes against Orthodox people.

>victor's justice

ok. Good to know your opinion. I do not agree and do not believe in the official wwii narrative you know. That's the issue here. I am yet to read his full biography but I seriously doubt the numbers and claims around this. In my country there are also attempts to "milk" the story of wwii for the benefit of nationalism/finances etc. So I am highly skeptical to say the least.

I hold no grudge against serbs even though their patriarch was the only one who sided with the bolsheviks, even in orthodox world.. I do not hold grudge against you why should I. You could be more charitable >>797027 but I have no idea how they insulted you…so ok. I dislike the people writing "s*rb" too.

Nobody here "worships" the martyr. And controversial pics are posted all the time(Salazar for instance). I could argue the same with Nicolas II and the WWI business. But guess what…even though I dislike the part of Russia on WWI and I am not Orthodox I consider him to be a martyr for faith. I do not go around claiming "vile hateful church" perhaps you should try that.

Again if you want to discuss any of this, feel free to create a thread for it. This thread is just for books.

Thanks in advance brother.

Two books, I got a falling apart version of the Brothers Grimm for 2.50, and a pocket sized Mansfield Park (Jane Austen) for only 5 at my local used book store

I'm off philosophy for a while, it's getting repetitive with angry nihilists and modern Christians who have lost the art of apologetics by either floating away into the land of liberal nonsense or trying to cage the reader into thinking a certain way.

Both the Grimm Brothers and Jane Austen were based and breadpilled, and reading the latter will make my mom happy at least.

Can someone recommend me a Catholic version of the book "The Orthodox Church" by Timothy Ware? I'm sure there are plenty. I want a book that introduces me to the Catholic faith.

>>797134

I got myself a catechism for that….well it is a short version, pre-v II edition. Isn't there some brief catechism for this purpose?

>>797134

The catechism is more in depth, specific. For that you

https://www.amazon.com/Small-Catechism-Catholics-Peter-Canisius/dp/0692288171/

is a pretty short/concise one there are plenty others by saints and many you can find online

most recent one is good as well http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

https://sensusfidelium.us/bible-catechesis/ this has a list of a bunch of them

for some more general stuff you could check out Orthodoxy by Gk Chesterton, for more popular Why We're Catholic by Trent horn

General introduction to theology

https://www.amazon.com/Theology-Beginners-Frank-Sheed/dp/1887593926

Decent intro to the history of the Church

https://www.amazon.com/Triumph-Power-Glory-Catholic-Church/dp/0761516042/

There is lots of variety, I know of a couple more comprable to the Orthodox Church but they seem pretty general and these would go more specifically on stuff. Orthodoxy by GK Chesterton is more sort of general world view.

I would recommend the above stuff more that will give more in depth takes, catechisms being great for specific point (just google X idea catholic catechism works pretty well)

But for stuff that is directly like the ware book Pope Benedict has an introduction to Christianity, Bishop Barron has a book called Catholicism.

Another book I love and will throw in is

https://archive.org/details/thechurchofthepa00pracuoft/page/n11

Which basically analyzes the parables and show's many truths of the faith from that. I really like this and it will cover everything important while showing how deep the parables are.

http://loretopubs.org/divine-parables-explained.html can buy it here

>>797134

Oh yeah another important thing related to the Orthodoxy Way

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Get-Married-Fulton-Sheen/dp/0933932871

Here's a good Catholic Book on marriage and why divorce isn't possible

http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae.html

This also touches on that but more heavily on contraception and why it's immoral

I know ware has seemingly approved of homosexual unions, and the Orthodox have approved of abortion before but I dont think those are in the orthodox way atleast, got two other degenerate things atleast he is proud of.

https://restlesspilgrim.net/blog/2016/02/25/orthodoxy-and-contraception/

this helps to demonstrate the unchanging teaching of the Orthodox Church

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Tiene libros como la nube del no saber, apotegmas de los padres del desierto, el peregrino ruso, imitación de cristo, el santo abandono… Lecturas básicas espirituales que todo buen cristianon habría de leer

>>801064

how legit is this chart and are there anything here that i should avoid?

>>800192

Thanks.

>>804762

Bump bump

I am reading Beauty by Roger Scruton

Are there any good biographies on Saint Boniface?

>>796924

>>804762

God will repay you for your evils.

>>805638

Awesome! Thanks.

The Cherubinic Wanderer by Angelus Silesius, and Meister Eckhart's sermons, with a bit of Jacob Boehme. Excellent meditative literature, especially the first one, which is just a collection of short poems that summarizes everything you need to know to become a friend of God.

>>805661

You're welcome bud!

I assume you're going to try to learn from Saint Boniface and try to convert some LARPagans?

>>805702

Yes. That's exactly my plan

What is the best book on the fall of the roman empire?

>>805798

How Rome Fell: Death of a Superpower - Adrian Goldsworthy

>>748944

Very Christian of you… NOT have fun in Hell forever

>>755264

You still probably believe in many liberal concepts (equality for all citizens, republican style government despite it never working, capitalism)

>>806439

>Papism

>The Bible

As a Catholic I lol'd

>>806439

>Orthodoxy

>New age

what? kek

>>806431

Thanks a lot I will check them out for sure.

Are they available in English?

This time the world.

>>807394

The book's written by an Orthodox monk

>>804438

I'm not sure about the Shack, that might be worth avoiding. Also not sure about Wrinkle in Time.

I haven't read the Brothers Karamazov yet, from what I know it's genuine yet a lot of atheists seem to like it for some reason.

Other anons probably know better than me.

>>808436

Just finished with This time the world.

Now I read St. John Chrysostom - Homily on marriage

And I move on to : Joseph de Maistre: Considerations on France, great read btw

>>810452

Finished the Homily on marriage and Zero Tolerance

Just started the Hobbit, would like to read LOTR for the first time after. Hopefully they are as Christian-themed as this board says.

>>753930

an old question which was never answered. It means to not devote to God through study. You can study God all you want but true worship is through prayer.

Finished today God's Battalions since i've seen it being mentioned some times here. Good book and eye opening to the byzantine schemes.

Recently finished Silence by Shusaku Endo, now rereading The Way of a Pilgrim.

After this I'm going to finish the Harry Potter series.

Any short christian books/stories are much appreciated.

>>812582

Good thing it is being mentioned it is on my to read also.

Finished Roger Scruton - Beauty

Started with few Interwar Articles by Ernst Junger but I will finish de Maistre too.

>>806439

Im sorry man but what screen are you using to have a resolution like that

Brothers Karamazov

>>809334

"A canticle for Saint Leibowitz" is an excellent book as well. Follows the Catholic church through a nuclear fallout and post-apocalypse revival of humanity, each time period following a new person.

>>748849

The Imitation of Christ, The Confessions, The Sayings of the Desert Fathers, The Rule of the Master, Fear and Trembling, Le Morte D'Arthur, The Lord of the Rings, The Demon Wars Saga, The Lost Fleet series, The Ember Wars Saga, The Heritage Trilogy, The Things They Carried, 33 Strategies of War, and of course the Scriptures (RSVCE2).

Some purely as audio books, some purely as text, and some as both. I tend to rotate them dependent on my mood (except for Scripture, which I read daily in the Missal at the very least, if not also on my own time).

If you couldn't tell, I like Military Text, Military Sci-Fi, High Fantasy (especially classics), and Christian Philosophy. They're probably my 4 favorite "genres" of literature.

>>760582

>>760559

I read the book already. If you are american conservative who likes jews you will like the book.

If you;re not that and especially if you are woke the constant use of "judeo-christian values" will make you pretty annoyed.

Other than that it has few good ideas but overall it is weak american conservatism. Tbh I expected more. 5/10 in my opinion

>>812645

Finished Consiederations on France. Good book. recommended

Started reading staying married in a degenerate age.

>>818957

Would not recommend that book. Reza Aslan is a Muslim and will try to support the Islamic view on Jesus. At least read something like "The Case for Jesus" by Brant Pitre before you want to weigh into his arguments.

Can you guys recommend a good book about Christian morals?

I'm devout Christian, but simply cannot apply Christian virtues, my thoughts are full of hate instead of love. So I would like to learn to become a better Christian.

>>819050

Imitation of Christ

Or

Introduction to the devout life

TL;DR: live the gospel

I'm reading Freud: Erotism and Sexual Desires and Paris was Yesterday from Jannet Flanner

>>819087

No he said he's explicitly a Muslim again and shills the Muslim idea of Jesus

Dude says Jesus tried to wage JIHAD on the romans and failed and thats why they killed him LOL

>>784123

All of Chemnitz's works can be downloaded here.

https://b-ok.cc/book/3592465/6a4725

I finished reading interwar articles by Ernst Junger. Good read

What are some good anti democracy books that you guys would recommend?

Books I'm reading right now:

>The Holy Bible

>Behold Your Mother

>A Song of Ice and Fire: A Feast for Crows (yes I know, but I like a bit of fiction)

>Rome Sweet Home

>Mein Kampf

>>819942

Have a look at Mencius Moldbug (Curtis Yarvin)'s "A gentle introduction to unqualified reservations". Title's a bit pretentious, but I really enjoy his writing style.

Note that he is entirely secular and not a fan of religion. That doesn't invalidate his conclusions, but it's worth knowing before going in.

>>819942

>anti-democracy books

Wew lad…don't you know democracy is the best thing because muh freeedumz?????

Now seriously. Books that I liked:

>For my Legionaries - Codreanu see >>755148

Just do not go for the translation with this cover, someone told me it is edited dishonestly. I did not check I read some 80s translation and it was marvelous

>Revolt against the modern world/Men among the ruins/Ride the Tiger

Evolian trilogy. It is anti democracy for sure. You have to take his opinions on religion with a grain of salt of course.

>Considerations on France - Joseph de Maistre

>Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera

Also solid >>751848

This just crossed my mind. If I think of something else I will catch up

>>820152

I'm looking for regular books to read (not something to specifically learn from), keep this updated if the storyline is good and the reading is nice.

The Eucharist: Mystery of Presence, Sacrifice, and Communion by Lawrence Feingold

"The Eucharist is intimately connected with this primary end of the Incarnation-the divinization of man and the giving of sanctifying grace by incorporating us in His Mystical Body."

Could this thread be made cyclical?

Thanks

>>818663

Finished. Not a bad book but you probably know most things.

I am moving on to Germany must Perish - Theodore Kaufmann

>>820453

Finished Germany must perish. dreadful read.

Now reading Thomas Carlyle - on Heroes and Hero worship as well as Eros and mysteries of Love by Evola. Both books are strange so far

Mods, would you mind making this thread cyclical?

thanks!

Against the Protestant Gnostics by Philip J. Lee

Here's a good video intro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHpKzGVIQVQ

The End of Protestantism by Peter Leithart

video interview with the author:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ygsCMQ1Ak

READ ALL OF BONALD'S BOOK REVIEWS AT THRONE AND ALTAR.

https://bonald.wordpress.com/

READ HIS ESSAYS, TOO, ESP.:

"THE CONSERVATIVE VISION OF AUTHORITY"

You won't regret it.

>>775073

Read Storm of Steel. Good book and only a small time investment. I liked it because it dwells more on the character building aspect of war as well as a place where courage, valor and initiative are valued. Good contrast to the usual stuff.

>>819942

>>820104

Yes, Moldbug is a fantastic writer. Wish I had been able to follow him when he started writing. Although he is an atheist, he thinks highly of Christians. Read his essay "the greatness of Lawrence Auster." Many good things to say about faith in Christ… If you are a Christian, it will inspire you and give you chills.

>>823229

Bumping, interested in this as well

>>774053

Just started this. Seems like a pretty interesting premise.

Does anyone else have any good /christian/ fiction recommendations?

>>826704

The Lord of the World