/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>746730

Shameful selfbump

>>746736

Thanks anon

>>746742

Should I just never be yoked then? Seems worse than hell.

>>746746

Woah my phone winnie the poohed that up.

Not sure how to even salvage that besides saying where it reads "Winnie the Pooh" it should read as "___" instead.

>>746730

>make over CAD$20,000 a month

For the love of all that is holy, would you please STOP basing your identity on this?

Yes women, find rich men attractive, but you should NEVER allow that to shape your own perception about yourself. Never.

Also your self-description has nothing about who YOU are, it's all about what you DO.

You see yourself as a do-er, and not as a human being, maybe that is somewhat of a problem.

It's not just about how women see you it's also about what you see yourself as.

This introduction about you was incredibly dry and unappealing, please read some books and develop your personality, for your own sake.

If you treat yourself as a tool, everyone else will do the same.

>>746730

You can convert a secular woman. If you can't, it's very likely that you're bad with women. Not trying to be harsh or anything, but its true.

Why would a church girl let a random man take her out if he's not been a member of his church for even a half a year? You might seem like a predator.

Maybe you're also not as charming as you think

>>746730

>I deserve a woman because I'm tall and rich

Thank Christ for saving those women from you. Take some time and readjust your attitude.

>>746757

>>746750

I'm not rich. I'm just saying I'm financially capable of providing for a family. Also I'm saying I'm a normal dude. Not a 600 pound guy that never showers. Relax guys

>>746730

>make over CAD$20,000 a month

Save up for a few years and retire early in the Philippines

>>746763

>christian girls

no such thing, women are not true believers. They just pretend in order to fit in with the herd.

God will make a way. Don't stress about your future, just focus on the Lord. If you do get a wife one day, great. if you never end up with a wife, you'll be just fine. Prepare yourself to be the bride of Christ, amd one day you might pick up a bride yourself along the way. If ive learned anything in my life, its that I only find love when I'm not looking for it. A good woman Is hard to find, worth more than diamonds. Don't be discouraged.

I don't understand why OP bases his six experiences with "church women who aren't married young" to then conclude that millions of women who attend church are worthless creatures.

Isn't it more likely that

a) you come off as autistic and the six you met were normies and thus scared of you

b) "young" women i.e. the 18-24 age range you are exclusively asking are the most brainwashed, most neurally undeveloped, shaltered and have never thought for themselves

c) Women who've had time to live apart from liberal influences would be happy to give you a chance but anyone 25-35 is beneath your notice, despite still being young enough to give you the 1-3 children you probably want?

>>746772

I want to have 5 to 10 kids

>>746767

>Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife.

>To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am.

>It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.

>[...] there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.

>But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.

>Do not spend your strength on women, your vigor on those who ruin kings.

>>746777

>I'll pray for you, incel.

>Literally praying for muh dick

>>746785

>>746768

God didn't make me a "do nothing sit around wait for something to maybe happen lol" person. Not at all.

>>746775

>If they burn, then they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Telling men like this they should not marry is terrible advice, anon, because it doesn't really address the issue they're struggling with. Sure, sure, sure, you can say that dedicating themselves to God 100% would solve the issue, and it would solve pretty much every possible issue in life. But again, you're just recommending that this guy fall into a wretching cycle of sin, repent, sin, repent because you're not really giving him useful advice for dealing with an existential desire for companionship, love, and a legacy. And because this exists as a void in his life, he's going to seek it in one way or another - and seeing as this is an imageboard, that's going to end up as a waifu obsession and then porn addiction. And faggotry.

When men like this plead for a love life, it is incredibly obvious they are not fit for a celibate life.

>>746742

saved into the porn folder

>>746786

>God didn't make me

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.

>>746789

???????

Learn to read man. What I said is exactly the same as saying God didn't make me a turtle.

The fact that you listed how much money you make as a reason for women to date you shows that there's probably a reaaon you get turned down so often

Also

>Iiterally cant find any Christian women who will even give me the chance of one date, it must be everyone else who's doing it wrong except me

>>746787

>Telling men like this they should not marry is terrible advice, anon

I'm not telling that degenerate anon to not marry. He told me to marry, claiming MGTOW is jewish faggotry. My reply was for the benefit of other anons capable of rising above base desires and truly devoting themselves to the Lord.

I really wish Christians had taken over the dating help scene rather than the PUAs. But western Christians, as in many other things, have retreated from the manly discipline of female husbandry. At least the PUAs teach the tools for attracting women, which can be useful for a Christian man as long as he exercises careful discernment over what he wants to do with the skills PUAs teach. Don't use them for a quick lay, use them to better understand the psychology of women and how to become the kind of man that a woman wants to be with.

>>746790

>God didn't make me

I know

>>746793

This thread isn't going to attract men looking to live a celibate lifestyle.

>>746794

>I really wish Christians had taken over the dating help scene

If by "Christians" you mean churchian tradcucks, then nothing would be different. Men need to stop pedestalizing pussy and start pedestalizing Jesus.

>>746798

>This thread isn't going to attract men looking to live a celibate lifestyle.

Then why am I here? The title is literally "Giving up on Christian women"

>>746795

Reading comprehension anon. Read the entire sentence structure.

>>746799

>giving up on Christian women

>not giving up Christian women

Two completely different meanings.

>stop pedestalizing pussy

See, this is what I mean. The typical Christian non-answer is "lol just deal with it." How is that at all a helpful answer for the asker? "lol just trust in Jesus" is how you destroy people's faiths because you don't have a reasonable, useful (utilizable) answer for them.

>evolution or creation?

<lol just trust in Jesus mang

>atheist friends telling me Jesus isn't real

<lol just trust in Jesus mang

>I'm struggling with lust

<lol just trust in Jesus mang

>w-well I'm gay now…

<lol just trust in Jesus mang

>I'm having trouble trusting in Jesus

<lol just trust in Jesus mang

>>746802

just trust in Jesus, bro

And let me clarify - I'm not saying that you shouldn't trust in Jesus, because obviously, you should. I'm saying that men are by nature doers, and that men need firm advice that they can actively, physically put into practice. Let God guide them, but man must work with his hands. Let God guide the hands, lest men be idle and ineffective.

>>746802

>"lol just trust in Jesus" is how you destroy people's faiths

But that's exactly what Jesus told us to do.

If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. Luke 12:28-31

>>746802

>How is that at all a helpful answer for the asker?

He's asking the wrong question.

>>746802

>"lol just trust in Jesus" is how you destroy people's faiths because you don't have a reasonable, useful (utilizable) answer for them.

Again, stop pedestalizing pussy. Jesus isn't here to be your wingman. Life isn't about getting your dick wet. If someone's faith in the Lord is "destroyed" because they can't find a wife, then I'm not wasting my time trying to help them.

>>746806

Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Luke 12:27

Have you ever picked up a Bible?

>>746807

Jesus also told His apostles to carry swords and to go (actively depart) and evangelize the Word. He didn't say "lol just trust in Me and let Me do all the work."

>>746810

>rephrasing "lol just trust in Jesus mang"

Why are you telling people things they already know?

>>746745

There's no reason to believe there are any good women.

>>746802

>lol just trust in Jesus mang

If you are unable to "just trust in Jesus" and you only have fair-weather faith, you are not a Christian.

If you are not a Christian, you belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.

You only have faith in Jesus when things go your way, when you're blessed with a wife and children.

Read the Book of Job.

>>746820

Jesus never had a girlfriend. It's unlikely he could really do much to help a m80.

>>746820

>misreading posts THIS badly

>accusing Christians of being satanic

This board is bad for Christians.

>>746822

>Jesus is my eternal salvation

>But I can't find a girlfriend

>Jesus never helps me

>>746820

>guy has a problem and asks for advice

<you're just not a real christian if you've ever had a problem

seriously, winnie the pooh off. imagine going to a priest and talking to him about a problem or a sin you're having trouble with and he just says "sorry, you must be satan."

you are the one who is not a "real christian" if anything. you're probably just a LARPer

>>746823

>This board [thread] is bad for Christians [churchian tradcucks who only care about muh dick and muh progeny].

ftfy

>>746784

might not be so bad if its "pray for muh dick intended for your only wifey once married"

>>746826

>you're just not a real christian if you've ever had a problem

you're just not a real christian if you are offered eternal salvation but your "faith is destroyed" because tfw no gf

>>746830

>pray for muh dick

>not pray for muh soul

Church women are a meme Christianity is a dead religion

>>746828

>churchian tradcucks

wew

>>746831

no one's faith has been destroyed you mongoloid. he just wants a wife and kids and is a little frustrated and asking for advice, there is literally nothing wrong with this.

>>746837

>no one's faith has been destroyed

>>746802

>"lol just trust in Jesus" is how you destroy people's faiths

>>746761

And I told you why your summary of yourself sucks.

Fix it, nibba.

>>746836

>Church women are a meme

True

>>746836

>Christianity is a dead religion

Good. Quality of believers > quantity of believers.

>don't do anything just trust in Jesus

I hope you people saying this are Catholics because you're making the argument that faith without works is not dead.

>>746843

>faith without works

Having a gf/wife isn't "works"

Follow the teachings of Christ. Nothing else matters. Your genetic legacy doesn't matter. Tfw no gf doesn't matter.

>>746838

telling people they can magically become saints with no effort is what kills faith.

>>746850

>Listening to other people instead of the teachings of Christ

You are not a Christian, you're a churchian tradcuck at best.

Christians do not strive to be saints, Christians only want to serve the Lord.

>>746855

Finally, a solid attempt at giving advice. Someone else gets it.

>>746855

>Faith without action is dead.

>Finding a gf has anything to do with faith

Not a Christian.

Sharing the teachings of Christ to save someone's soul is good.

Sharing the teachings of Christ so that you can have a gf is not good.

>>746730

It may be where you are. If you're not in the Bible Belt, then that may be the case. Tennessee, Kentucky, etc. may have opportunities for you. Paul said that he would that every man should be like him, but that every man has his calling from God.

>>746861

>Christ himself instructs to pursue a holy life.

Churchian tradcuck = seeks high social status in the congregation, seeks to virtue signal via virtuous wife and well-adjusted kids.

High social status and virtue signalling are not "a holy life." You are not living for Christ, you are living for yourself. You are not a Christian.

>>746866

>thinking that setting a good example for younger church members by not being a degenerate is a bad thing

>continuing to claim to be the only true christian in the world

seriously, gtfo of this board, it is not for you. you are not christian, you are a retard with a big head who got his hands on a bible. you need to be humbled

>>746824

Jesus also cannot help you design a silicon wafer.

>>746858

It applies to EVERYTHING, anon. Faith without works is dead because works are the proof of faith. Works without faith is also worthless because it is aimless work.

Therefore, let faith guide action, not inaction. If you wish to find a (help)mate, have faith that God will help you in the matter, and also do the footwork and let God guide your feet. You cannot passively pray >tfw no gf and expect things to happen because you're not demonstrating the sincerity of your prayer through action. You also cannot seek a mate without God's guidance, because then you risk ending up unequally yoked.

Therefore, let faith guide action and trust in God while you go out and meet girls.

>>746868

>Everyone look at me! I'm not a degenerate! Look at my well-behaved kids! Recognize ME!

>you need to be humbled

ironic

>>746871

I'm not convinced there are any Christian women. Women are saved through childbirth.

>>746871

This, /thread

>>746875

>Women are saved through childbirth

Sounds like a works based salvation to me.

>>746872

>What are you talking about?

You said a Christian is the same as a churchian tradcuck. I defined churchian tradcuck for you, since you obviously didn't know what that term means.

>>746874

the only irony here is you acting all high and mighty, saying that you are the only true christian, while simultaneously calling everyone else in this thread virtue-signalers

>>746877

Just a Bible quote.

>>746879

>saying that you are the only true christian

citation needed

>>746879

>calling everyone else in this thread virtue-signalers

mostly everyone tbh

>>746880

List it then, heretic.

>>746882

you call everyone else a fake christian as if you are the arbiter of faith.

>>746887

< foibles of variety of opinion supports homogeneity

>>746872

>finding celibacy

I am very obviously not interested in being celibate. Leave the thread please.

>>746885

>you call everyone else a fake christian as if you are the arbiter of faith.

I call most anons ITT fake Christians. I choose to be an arbiter of faith.

I'm not special, you could choose to be like me. Seems you'd rather use the Christian label to virtue signal, though.

>>746890

Jesus was celibate. It's a reasonable position. Perhaps all Jesus can do is help you remain chaste.

>>746892

I am a convert. I am not a virgin.

>>746886

Seems like you forgot to emphasize an important half of the statement:

>if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety

>>746887

yeah, its insane. you can't even reason with them. they claim to follow jesus' word, but ignore everything about works, authority, unity, mary, the eucharist, etc., as if the church fathers just pulled that stuff out of their asses

>>746885

I want to be clear: I'm not praising myself, I'm shaming you.

>>746730

>CAD

>Canada

Well there's your problem.

>>746899

I wasn't talking to you. Check the IDs.

>>746883

>I just want to take Christ at his word

Then you are a Christian.

>>746903

you don't even know me

>>746763

>christian girls are well known for whoring around

A myth pushed by the jewish media.

>>746907

I know what you've been preaching here, and that's enough

>>746730

One thing that you should never ask this board's advice about, it's women.

>>746908

>christian girls are well known for whoring around

<A myth pushed by the jewish media.

There are very few Christian girls. "Christian" whores are actually just churchian tradthots.

>>746915

>I would like a wife at this point in my life.

>I want a wife but I'm comfortable if He denies me one.

>Your will be done, Father.

/thread, thanks anon

>>746910

the only thing i've preached itt, is "no hymen no diamond." other than that i have just been calling you out on your bullshit. you came into this thread and automatically assumed everyone else is wrong, and that you are the only one who is following jesus the right way.

>>746898

It constitutes a further requirement. The principle requirement is childbearing (presumably barren women are excused).

>>746745

I was giving you a hint with the image, anon.

>>746924

And the word translated "holiness" is actually of uncertain meaning. It's a word that seems to have been invented by early Christians.

>>746925

I am white though. Don't believe that God intended the races to mix.

>>746927

The Bible doesn't speak of races. It does speak of the nations, however.

Nations, for all of history, were homogeneous

>I cant get a good gf

>all women must then be whores

It's something wrong with you

>>746931

I am an observer of women. While you're right that's bullshit, not all women are whores, there is the strand of the problem in all women.

As with men, of course. "Fallen".

>>746931

>all women are whores

>I cant get a good gf then

ftfy

>>746928

dang, and that was in ancient times. if non-thots were rare back then, they must be extinct in modern zog times

>>746730

Daily reminder that posts like this exist to demoralize you.

God bless.

>>746934

YES!!!

also yes. "flood detected" wat?

>>746935

>posts like this exist to demoralize you.

>Jesus saved my soul but I'm sad because no gf

If you're demoralized you're not Christian.

>>746915

>Trust in Christ not what gifts you want in this life.

This, /thread

>>746937

If you cannot see the state of affairs, that there are effectively nil women of God (this is attested to by the loneliness of good men, and supposed Christian women seeking outside men), then you have none of the spirit of God in you.

>>746942

>t. not saved

>>746946

That's not an argument. I made the argument that it is your responsibility to have insight. You have no argument, and are from the devil.

>>746949

Those few who seem a bit religious are just arrogant "I'm better than you because of X", just like any other woman, only the X is religion.

>>746935

I literally never intended for that at all. I'm not the one attacking people either.

>>746968

But the Bible, which you are ignorant of, not being a Christian, and not being familiar with anything authentic in the least, contradicts your blasphemy here:

>>746886

>>746929

When the bible was written, that meant the same thing.

>>746730

If you're making $180k per year at 25, that means that you either work as an engineer or similar role on a big tech company like Google or Facebook (companies that purposefully oppose Christian values with for example 'LGBT weeks'), or you work in something like investment banking which is pure evil.

Remember, you cannot have two masters. You cannot serve both God and Mammon.

>>746925

>suggesting race-mixing

Christianity is absolutely cucked. Thank god I'm a Nietzschean MGTOW, unironically.

>>747004

I'm a diesel mechanic in the oilfield. I usually work alone in isolation.

>>746971

>But the Bible, which you are ignorant of, not being a Christian, and not being familiar with anything authentic in the leas

>Therefore, as it is written: “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.”

Grapes so sour they're vinegar on the vine.

>>746927

We've had numerous threads on this topic, and the /pol/fags always lose, Scripturally.

>>747005

>thank god

You 'avin a giggle m9?

>>746730

You're asking people on a Mongolian basket weaving forum, while you should be asking God.

>>746788

Repent

>>747057

Just to add to this, you can ask the Lord for all good things, OP (Matthew 7:7-11). But keep in mind that His will for your life might differ from your own will. Focus on your walk with God above all else. If it's God's will that you start a family, then He will bring the right person into your life. Now, I'm not saying that you should just wait until God brings someone to your doorstep. You can definitely search for someone, but you should be searching for the one God wants you to be with. Finding her can take a while, and it requires patience and discernment. Keep your eyes open for opportunities, but also keep in mind that Satan can bring opportunities into your life as well. Give God the first place in your life, and you will be able to discern between them. I know this can be frustrating, I'm in the same boat, but I personally would much rather marry someone God chooses for me (or even to stay single) than to marry someone who isn't right for me. Put your trust in God's promises, if you acknowledge Him in all your ways, then He will direct your paths (Proverbs 3:5-6).

>>746751

Also this.

>>747087

>Oscar Wild is gay

Thx for the info. I removed the file from my computer.

What type of churches do you attend? I find that ethnic churches have been polluted with alt left socialist feminazis who discourage their sisters from socializing with hardworking affluent men. Yet they won’t have any qualms about asking you to keep giving them money.

>women attend his church

Nani?

Most churches ive been too are nearly all men with barely any women in sight.

>>747092

based

>>747105

>tfw my parish is filled with qt's, but i'm too jaded to even want to talk to them

>>746992

Or not.

>>747017

Yep. You're a son of hell, because you care not an iota for the truth. You're just another kike.

>>746886

This is a direct reference to the curse God put on Eve in Genesis 3. Her curse was pain and toil in childbearing. It isn't a comment on salvation.

>>746992

Yeah, exactly.

>>746730

What kind of church?

>>747152

"All the Bible verses just mean 1 or 2 stupid things. It's mostly fluff."

>>>/gaschamber/

>>747161

>I never could've imagined that my dating prospects would be so bad as a Christian adult.

God doesn't have women.

>>747417

>>747430

They are the same.

>>746822

*tips*

>>747686

You don't.

>>747683

> follow Christ

< have sex

jejjed

>>747694

Yeah, the pope marries them in ceremonies that were copied by the moonies. I mean no.

>>747686

Then no Catholic woman worthy of the name would marry you. The church despises mixed Marriages.

>>747694

If you become Catholic just because of girls you are being very disrespectful to God and secondly no there isn't arrangements. You become a man and get a woman the old fashion way.

You the winnie the pooh do you think we are? Muslims or moonites?

>>747734

>Well then what's the bloody point of being Catholic

Salvation and friendship and communion with God?

Stop thinking with you dick retard. Grow up.

>>747741

Jesus died suffering on the cross for us.

I think asking you to not touch your pee-pee and not insert your pee-pee in places (for you own good) unless with your (future wife) is really not asking for very much.

Remember that God won't never let us to be tempted to a point beyond resistance. That means that you always can resist temptation, because God wouldn't allow temptation that it is stronger to the point of non-resistance.

>>747741

>How are you supposed to maintain friendship with God if you aren't given a way to take care of your sexual desires in a non-sinful way?

It isn't required. There are many people who didn't get married are and saints. In fact most of them tbh.

>No help with marriage

What help are you expecting? Do you expect the priest to get a girl for you? No do it yourself. You have to love the girl and the girl has to love you as well.

And then the church actually helps you with marriage by explaining to both of you the challenges of married life.

>no community even (no-one ever talks to anyone at Catholic churches. it's just arrive for mass and then leave and drive home right afterwards).

You shouldn't talk during masses and most people are occupied.

But in almost every parish they are youth groups and shit. Talk with the priest.

Tell me what are what are you expecting in Christianity? This isn't Islam or some other stupid cult.

True Christian man really become real and honorable man. A true man gets his own wife and loves her by what she is not because she is his slave and vice versa.

Catholics are catholics because they love God and God himself sacrificed himself so that the sin of Adam could be paid for and we get our inheritance in heavens.

It was never about getting girls and it will never be.

>>747747

>Catholics always say shit like this but then 99% of them turn out to be masturbators anyway.

And what does that prove? There are lots of killers in the world? That means it's OK for me to be one?

And what source do you have do claim that? Some of us are but realise they are in sin and fight and try to chance every day. That's the difference we try to change. And thankfully most of us aren't masturbators anymore (I talk for myself).

>Why wouldn't you help young people to get married within the Church? That seems like such a basic thing for churches to do.

How can I help you? What do you even want? I don't have magical powers to put a girl in your lap. I don't know dude. Getting girls isn't a thing that comes in the catechism. Is a thing that all men naturally learn, with some mistakes at first but then if God wills it they will succeed.

>>747751

>Wives are supposed to submit to their husbands as clearly stated in the bible.

Never questioned that nor I ever will.

>And true love is, again, a stupid modern idea, according to Christianity people won't even be bound by marriage anymore in the afterlife,

Ever heard of agape friend? It's completely different from the Hollywood love.

>Most Catholic men throughout history have gotten married through marriages arranged by their families or churches

Families did that, the churches never though. And only nobles did that, most peasants married normal chaste girls. They only thing families would do was steering their kids from people from bad families or at most getting their daughter married with he rich man of the village.

I don't know about you but I don't want a woman who was forced to marry me.

>it's just an earthly relationship meant to help people propagate humanity and stay chaste.

And a Holy Sacrament which reflects the love that Christ has for the Church, in which besides what you mention the couple helps each other on this earthly walk.

>Your ideas are stupid. You act like the world is benevolent and in tune with Christian teaching, when it's the opposite.

I think when a Catholic man "learns" how to get a woman he knows what is forbidden to do.

I would never give tell an hedonist to learn with several girls. We are on a Christian server and I think everyone knows on what side we are.

>>747741

>>747737

God has no women. When women are... shall we say, horny, they quit being Christian or religious in any way. They're all the same in that regard. They are, ironically enough, all devotees of Pan.

>>747430

Protestant. From what I understand, the Catholic Church has a similar problem with most of their young women being thots, and I'm not sure about the Orthodox Church.

>>747917

islam has the same problem. judaism does too. jainism, buddhism, wicca, hindoooism…

>>747924

meant for:

>>747920

>>747927

Men and women are not equally culpable here. Men are at fault for desiring a beautiful woman. Women are at fault for desiring a rich man. But the latter fault is unquestionably greater.

>>746730

The church going girls here are pretty much as slutty as any other girl. And now girls that are my age (27) are slowly starting to be 'reformed'. But yeah, situation is really bad. Honestly, I stopped actively looking for women a long time ago. I would say that by doing that I've eliminated a loooot of frustration from my life.

>>748013

They won't be looking to you. They're looking for a "bad boy" that makes their vj's tingle. God has no women.

>>748014

Yeah, I know. I had a massive fight recently with a dude on Facebook about some woman who admitted she was a huge slut and she 'repented' in her late 20s and now has 5 kids and is married.

>>748015

Yes, I know, the worse you treat them, the better they like you. Honestly, I can't respect women because of that. Like, have you no sense of self worth? They also don't love you because you're a good and virtuous person, they only love you proportionally to how much you benefit them. So I think the whole fundamental system of male-female relations is just skewed.

>>748018

Women are proof that, to some extent, religion/mysticism of all types is a failure. That which rules woman is never principles.

>>748022

No, principles don't matter, what matters is outright social oppression. Get rid of that, and you have what we have now. And ask yourself, even if there is social oppression, why is your woman with you? Probably because she has to. And would you like to live with her knowing that?

>>746764

You have to go back

Lust is a sin, man is not a beast of the field. Only have sex with the woman you love, for through this your children are bore of love… just as His love bore us.

A lot of crappy men and women going around in this wonderful post-Christian utopia… truly the glory of man is a wretched thing. I would also tell you not to hate women for it will do no good… remember that his hope is eternal.

>>747927

god laughs for we hurt ourselves you see? We really are quite a bunch of rascals

>>748014

That's some very interesting site you got there.

>>748101

>first image

>an intelligent turk

Huh

>>748101

I have refuted the 2nd image in the relationship thread, why do you keep posting it ? Are you mentally deranged ? Go back to your mgtow echo chamber, just because you can't find a woman doesn't mean that women are evil, you're just a loser with pessimistic view of the world.

>>748105

Again, go back to your echo chamber. Leave this board alone.

>>748213

What was the image? It was censored.

God has no women. Androgenous followers, perhaps, but, as women, women are not God's, insofar as they are women.

>>748353

Based mudslime

>>748358

Don't you have eyes, retard?

Example: no women are HERE.

>>746742

>this a million times

Since the Christian girls didn't want me, I should have took it as a sign. Instead I am married to someone who thinks they have the same authority as I yet performs 1/10th the duties. I am faithful but I don't even wear a wedding ring. We have 3 wonderful kids and all… yet I cannot bear to go to another service with my children and get those looks from everyone. You can see the smug judgement, the sadness, it is all in their eyes.

>>746745

What we think God wants for us does not often coincide with His plan. This ain't some Joel Osteen bull, the church will be persecuted even from within and even Christ himself was rejected and will be rejected again.

>>746828

>>746831

Amen.

>>747004

It ain't often I raise my hands when I read a post.

>>748375

>Since the Christian girls didn't want me, I should have took it as a sign.

Christian women don't want Christian men. Here's a clue: They ain't Christian, at least when they take off the Sunday mask.

>>748380

>Sunday mask

Having never seen them outside Church functions as a lad it would be impossible to know this. Naturally when you get older it is impossible to not to see it through inductive reasoning.

Last time I saw a young woman at the women's bible study group was when it was obvious she was there because grandma was watching her. Arms folded, slouching, all pissed off and bored looking. Undoubtedly she wasn't "allowed to be alone" during party hours for some misdeed.

Like they say, the only people at church are those that need it.

“The greatest single cause of Atheism in the world today is Christians: Who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, and walk out the door, and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.”

>>748373

>>748374

>Who are female saints?

>What are nuns?

>>748374

>>748373

Is this supposed to be satire? Is something flying over my head?

>>748405

>modern day

The modern difference: latex

Unrelated but are there women in this board? What can you say (if you exist) about these larpers?

>>748405

Do you really expect people here to believe this? In one your earlier posts you said you'd rather be Muslim than a Catholic if it meant getting a wife. It's obvious you just hate Catholics.

>>747751

Genuinely the most depressing post I think I've ever read.

>>748405

Old course because of priests can get it up and leave the retirement house and buy condoms at a pharmacy.

I guess you've never been at a retirement house didn't you?

>>748431

Because those pedo and mafia types are even less than 0.5% of all priests

>>748431

The way some people talk about priests here is so stupid.

In my country for example there has never been a pedo priest ever.

That shit only happens in countries like Northern Europe or the United States because guess what? There's were all the gays live.

There are 414,313 priests in the US. There's not even 500 pedo priests there.

There are as many pedo priests as there are pedo teachers and so on.

>>748437

That's where the mafia gets in. They are few but the winnie the poohers get the job done.

Normally those priests they silent because they are blackmailed by the pedos. they should stop being cowards and speak up, but easier said than done

The people who run seminars at least in the US are the heads of the mafia, for example mccarrick who had parties with five priests at home.

Imagine that you are a nice man that wants to be a priest.

When they ask you those questions about your vacation you mention that you have a problem with lust for pretty girls. What do they do in that case?

Once you become a priest they send you to a only female high school to teach there for example and even paid hot chicks to seduce you. Once you fall for the bait they'll have pics of you and the girl or a video just to be safe that if one day you find out that your partners are winnie the pooh each other you can't speak up because they have stuff against you.

This isn't about just children here.

Some seminars are winnie the pooh gay brothels and the gay priest invite their friends over to winnie the pooh the Church even more.

Its a winnie the pooh cycle and thankfully now the church forbids faggots to become priests. As St. John Chrysostom says: "their lives [of the homossexuals] are diabolic"

>waaa why cant I get a gf thread is still going

Please stop this it's embarrassing

>>748450

This isn't precisely the thread. Rather, I have observe the consistent tendency, which is that God has no women. Indeed, I have observed at least 100 women who passed up exceptional men who were available to them. I have observations across denominations and religions.

Religion is a guy thing. Except when the lady is putting on her mask. But no more true to her is her makeup than her religion, though she'll claim both are authentically hers.

>>748452

Hypergamy is a bitch

>>746730

>I'm not going to be unmarried at 28.

Your desire to marry seems greater than your desire to follow the bible. I suggest you work on that.

>>748452

>Christian girls are selective in who they, you know spend the rest of their life with

>therefore theyre not real Christians

Funny things happen when you cant accept that possibly you have the problem, and not literally everyone else

>>746870

>Prot with no understanding of history likely likes Joel Osteen

>>748574

Source?

Glad my waifu will never ask me for money… I will die alone, but with my waifu next to me.

>>746768

I know this is so true, but I don't want it to be. I know I need to be content on my own and accept Christ as all I need, but it can be so hard.

I'm a senior at a Christian college, and there are so many single Christian girls who are about to graduate. It's hard to meet people when you aren't outgoing and you're insecure and not very social.

>>752221

> It's hard to meet people when you aren't outgoing and you're insecure and not very social.

Learn about the nature of women

Learn GAME

An excellent blog for that :

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

>>748415

Femanon here and I think this thread is laughable with a certain /r9k flavour to it. My friends and I (all various Christian denominations) are chaste and focused on God (a fact that is seemingly difficult for some of you to grasp). Among our discussions on things we look for in future husbands, the number one deal breaker for us was whether or not he was Christian.

And to the anon who said that women only like men who treat them like trash - I'd love to know the women you know because that is not only categorically false but downright insulting.

Perhaps you should all consider the fact that spouse hunting on the other side of the fence is equally difficult and I could even go so far so as to whine that "all men are the same and after only one thing" which is daft. Do with that what you will.

>>752534

>My friends and I are chaste.

I won't believe for a moment that there are Femanons on this board but if there are, that's pretty wholesome, good on you and your sisters and stay strong.

>>752839

Well, my brother introduced me to this board so I understand where you're coming from. Either way though, thank you for the comment. God bless

>>752946

Why did he do that? Is he low iq?

What part of 3rd world do you live in to be chaste in the current year?

>>752229

>Learn about the nature of women

I keep referring this thread but no one darn reads it >>741747

>Learn GAME

Now how one practice game and still live a christian life? Thing is, I left aside christianity for the longest time, and had my fair share of game then, but I'm curious how would one practice it while still following the right path.

>>752534

>I'd love to know the women you know because that is not only categorically false but downright insulting.

Its good that you've gifted with the strength and discipline to not fall in degeneracy, but you have to admit its an unfortunate low amount of girls that are like that, and even when they start off with the right mentality, there is a whole influence on the media and sometimes even from their own friends to just go for it, even sometimes when they think they have found "the one" and temptation is too big for them to control themselves, you know deep down most women are like that, just going with the flow and their feelings.

Now what he meant that is for tendency for women to fall for bad guys, there is a word for them in portuguese "cafajeste" that describes it better than anything in english. The reason they do that they unfortunately mistake the behavior of the bad guy as that of a superior dominant male, one that is leading in the relationship with intent and love, versus the one "cafajeste" that pretends to be loving but just wants to use her as sexual gratification and has absolutely zero regards to her feelings and consequences.

Please check out the thread I've mentioned above and join in the discussion if you can.

>Among our discussions on things we look for in future husbands, the number one deal breaker for us was whether or not he was Christian.

Now regarding that, of course at least he should be christian and willing to wait for whatever condition you have, but I'd be interested to know, what are the other things you looks for and other things that are a turn off?

>>752951

When I mean introduce I mean he mentioned it and I took it from there. And if I were you I'd refrain from calling people you don't know 'low IQ'. Not sure if I find it funny or disturbing that you seem angry that being chaste in 'muh current year' is actually a thing. Being raised properly isn't as rare as you'd think Anon.

>>752953

> but you have to admit its an unfortunate low amount of girls that are like that, and even when they start off with the right mentality, there is a whole influence on the media and sometimes even from their own friends to just go for it, even sometimes when they think they have found "the one" and temptation is too big for them to control themselves, you know deep down most women are like that, just going with the flow and their feelings.

I can agree that there /are/ women who 'fall in love' and suddenly all rational thought flies out the window. As for the females I know in my life, we recognize temptation but being right in God's eyes is more important. I also think women who 'go with the flow' as you put it don't respect themselves. You can't give a man everything and be surprised when he doesn't want to marry you later on.

> The reason they do that they unfortunately mistake the behavior of the bad guy as that of a superior dominant male,

I stand corrected and I'd be a liar if a disputed the fact that there are those types of women, which is rather sad tbh.

>Please check out the thread I've mentioned above and join in the discussion if you can.

I'll be happy to.

>but I'd be interested to know, what are the other things you looks for and other things that are a turn off?

There's quite a lot and it differs between all of us but a man who is strong in God, stable (an Anon on another thread had a quote that boiled down to the fact that women seek stability - it's not a meme), kind and someone who would make a good future father (i.e he wants kids in the first place). Many of you on here have those traits so its unfortunate you all seem to find the unseemly types.

Turn offs? Probably men who have no sense of purpose or drive in life? Like those liberal man-children who allow their wives to trample all over them just so they can get a Funko Pop for Christmas.

Sorry for the long post ^^;;

>>746730

>25

>giving up on church women

Kek, young people. You’re too young to give up

>want to be married at 28

Don’t rush yourself. God will put the right woman for you in your life when He wants to, that is if He wants you to marry

>can I try secular women

I had heard that it was best to marry Christian women so child raising won’t be so conflicting between you and your spouse. Also I believe it’s a sin to marry a non Christian

>>752960

I'm sorry you're jaded enough to think that. Funny you should mention it, my country is probably 3/4 black. Point?

>>752963

I'm actually curious, where in the world? how old are you? You can be vague in the answer you feel like it.

>>752959

>I also think women who 'go with the flow' as you put it don't respect themselves. You can't give a man everything and be surprised when he doesn't want to marry you later on.

Its not entirely like that, it just happens women are more social and emotional beings, its part of the your feminine essence, so if you're feeling particularly good or fun at some given moment its more likely you end up doing something normally wouldn't do. That's where the danger lies. And specially when a girl is getting older, comes a bad feeling of having been missing out on something everyone else already did.

stability - it's not a meme

> an Anon on another thread had a quote that boiled down to the fact that women seek stability - it's not a meme

>those liberal man-children who allow their wives to trample all over them just so they can get a Funko Pop for Christmas

Yeah funny what you say there, and is partly what has been discussed in the other thread.

Its a bad state of affairs where women have to be more masculine and men to lose it.

>>752967

Let's go with south of the equator and I'm 22.

>Its not entirely like that, it just happens women are more social and emotional beings, its part of the your feminine essence, so if you're feeling particularly good or fun at some given moment its more likely you end up doing something normally wouldn't do. That's where the danger lies. And specially when a girl is getting older, comes a bad feeling of having been missing out on something everyone else already did.

I feel like this speaks to a particular group and I get where you're coming from - I've seen it happen as we all have. I'll probably get called out for being a 'snowflake' for saying this but I'm not the type to 'lose' myself in the moment, the opposite in fact. I think self-control is a problem anyone can face but I'll concede it's easier to fall prey to all sorts of things when you fall on the more emotional side of the spectrum.

>Yeah funny what you say there, and is partly what has been discussed in the other thread.

Its a bad state of affairs where women have to be more masculine and men to lose it.

I enjoyed reading it, some valid points were made. I agree! Seeing matriarchal relationships in action is downright unnatural and just super uncomfortable to see tbh

>>752971

>Many of you on here have those traits so its unfortunate you all seem to find the unseemly types.

>Turn offs? Probably men who have no sense of purpose or drive in life?

I forgot to comment on this life, it was what I wanted to complement with that line about men being less masculine.

I also talked about it in the other thread, but many men nowadays don't have a strong purpose, most of times just wishing to meet some loving girl and be together.

I for one have a purpose that might be misinterpreted, to find a proper wife and build a family together, meanwhile having a honest life's work in my chosen career and living somewhere serene and peaceful, like in the interior or farm.

Farewell sister (also liver south of the equator), I'll pray and hope that you come to find a good husband as I hope to find a good wife. God bless.

>>752953

>Its good that you've gifted with the strength and discipline to not fall in degeneracy, but you have to admit its an unfortunate low amount of girls that are like that, and even when they start off with the right mentality, there is a whole influence on the media and sometimes even from their own friends to just go for it, even sometimes when they think they have found "the one" and temptation is too big for them to control themselves, you know deep down most women are like that, just going with the flow and their feelings.

Most people are like that.

And the ratio of chaste folk is roughly equal across sexes and age ranges.

But instead of doing the rational thing and going how can i get one of those good girls, you decided to turn into a male tumblrina, and paint an entire gender with an extremely disgraceful brush.

And going all women want a hung hunk that treats them like shit, and that's their nature, is a male version of that old joke.

Q: What is the definition of the perfect woman?

A: A deaf and dumb blonde nymphomaniac whose father owns a pub.

A bit true for a lot of people, but not something you should use as a measuring stick.

>>752977

>I also talked about it in the other thread, but many men nowadays don't have a strong purpose, most of times just wishing to meet some loving girl and be together.

To be fair, I get like that too. If I could get married tomorrow, I'd jump at the chance until I remember that it's important to improve yourself. It's a commitment and you don't just jump into it with perfect ease so focusing on the self first is vital.

>I for one have a purpose that might be misinterpreted, to find a proper wife and build a family together, meanwhile having a honest life's work in my chosen career and living somewhere serene and peaceful, like in the interior or farm

What a fantastic goal to aspire to! If you know where you're going (with God's help of course), the path is much easier to walk.

>Farewell sister (also liver south of the equator), I'll pray and hope that you come to find a good husband as I hope to find a good wife. God bless.

This is probably the most wholesome interaction I've had so far. Thank you for the prayers and in turn I hope that in time your future wife will be placed in your life.

>>746730

there's no such thing as a good women in modern society, unless you're living completely cut off from the rest of the world there's no point

women are a meme

>>752946

Mary Ann?

>>753002

No

>>752963

LONDON

I fully intend to move to east Asia if it is at all possible. The West is lost.

>>752960

>Anyways I still think you haven't met a black man yet

STOP watching interracial porn, brother.

>unmarried at 28

Lol are you kidding? If anything it is age that youre missing for these young church women….You do realize at 28 you can marry any woman in her 20s right? And most would be more than down to…?

>>754243

Wasn't aware being serious is a non-female trait. I take issue with the fact that you meet one plebbit tier female and all of a sudden the entire female population is a Stacy who cares about nothing more than running after Chad.

>>747084

Oscar Wilde may have been homosexual, but he was savage. That quote man…

>>761826

men can realistically marry a late teen/early 20 year old girl up unto the early 30's, women are more naturally attracted to older men

10 year difference is only a radical thing for this era, 15+ was a norm the further we go back into history

>>762053

High church Anglican - and no we aren't all as liberal as the CoE will have you believe

>>762065

BEGOME ANGLICAN RITE GATHOLIC

>>762067

I'd definitely consider if it were a thing where I live tbh but for the moment a good majority of our churches are still 'safe', so I'm not prepared to jump just yet.

I did that before

https://n3t.host/mumble.html

>>746730

I'm a wretched Christian so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but find a secular woman who respects your faith and try to convert her in a polite manner. Easier said than done, but if she's better than some "Christian" who's committed every sin under the sun and keeps sinning because "God will forgive me", I say give it a shot.

>>746730

Here's a protip: All church women are Christian women. But not all Christian women are church women.

>>768786

The exact opposite

All Christian women are church women, but not all church women are Christian women

Extra Ecclesiam Nullas Sallis

>>768793

Semantics. Point stands that you're better off just looking for a Christian woman outside the church simply cause there is more of them.

>>768793

By the way your quote contradicts your implication.

>>746764

This along with blacks and mexicans

if you havent been given a wife already by god, it seems converting them is the only option. Not doing anything, you end up alone, even though that itself isn't a problem. but these are solutions for getting a wife. so either you do nothing and die alone, give in to degeneracy and have sex before marriage and go into hell and all that mess, or stay with god and not search for a woman but dont deny bad women the opportunity to be with you because you are judging them, just be so good or holy or whatever that you make the bad women change good and you get a waifu that way. i think it is a man's job to bring women out of hell. most women are only bad because men didnt lead the way for them so if you do it they will turn good since they are now back to where they belong naturally. if you love women you should help them but only if they want it. she might not be perfect or be a virgin or something but thats only because she was lead into hell by not having good men in her life. Once she reconnects naturally with god that is inside you she will be a new person so it's sort of like a virgin

>>747087

He repented, tho…and he was homosexual, yet had a few children. I’m still in awe at how God turned his heart around at the end of his earthly life.

The quote is also quite true…

>>747427

>Gets corrected

<winnie the pooh you! It's all bullshit anyways!

>The modern secular "man". Correction is like sunlight on a vampires skin.

>>768992

>naughty words are ebil

Children become bashful and are shocked by "naughty words".

I bet you guys think 'frick' is acceptable despite it serving the exact same purpose and conveying the exact same message.

The state of the modern Christian, apparently.

God dosen't censor you nor does he alter the words you speak but yet you consider yourself more righteous than him.

The word of god changes people from the inside out. So why not share verses regarding the importance of language used when communicating to others.

I'll get you satrted:

Ephesians 4:29

Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

I'd also like to give attention to the importance of context and purpose and how the severtiy of language used, as fits the occasion, can edify your people.

Like how in this occasion, trying to dictate and control peoples thought and speech by automatically changing peoples words, makes you look like an ass. As it's been made clear by replacing the word f-u-c-k with "winnie the pooh", you guys are asses.

Not just any ass - Dumbasses.

You're doing harm to Gods image by forcing change.

>>746730

Ignore all the disdain about how much you earn and PUA crap. Both are relevant. Your earning and looks are relevant, your way of behaving and attitudes are relevant. Money is significantly helpful and makes life a lot easier when dealing with women and when forming a family. Girlfriends use to be expensive, and so are wives, kids and families. Women want security and being led, they will prefer the alpha male in a way or other, even if they don't admit it. Women have their instincts so as men have, and it may be even worse since they are picky when trying to find a good man and they don't admit to themselves what they really want, so they are less likely to have goals by their own will. That's how mankind works, that's how it is. You have to deal with such variables that are independent if they are good Christians or not.

What I can tell you is to try more and more and not giving up. It's absolutely normal to be turned down. That was just six of them. And it also seems to me you are too preoccupied with social shame and with vanities, that strategy may not work and you should know when to give up on that. By being worried about being known as a man-whore, you look like one of these evangelical hypocrites that live in a way to keep up their appearances to their church community. If that's a strategy so you have more chances of getting women, then it' fine, as long as you know when to change strategies.

And I seriously advise anyone here to be open about 16 year old girls or slightly older. There's no reason other than vanity to dismiss women younger than you. You are sufficiently young so it's not a problem, OP. It's just a matter of cultivating her and waiting for the right time. It's easier the youngest she is since women are very malleable, so their character is more vulnerable to their environment. If you are a good company to her, she will keep in good moral shape and also it's gonna be way more likely she's virgin. So be open for more options.

>>768999

I hope it's pasta.

You should know the augmentative value in English of that word and how different places have different required etiquette, so frigging becomes acceptable. In the church you should behave in a way different than before your grandmother and then it should be different than when dealing with friends, with strangers, with kids etc… The BO probably don't want the word being used here for some good customs and hygiene sake and the silly filter keeps petulant newfags under control. While "bad manners" and free speech are part of the soul of IBs, keeping newfags under the board customs is essential so everything doesn't become cancer.

I never cared to question that retarded filter, but that's what I always have assumed as its reason.

And being respectful and seeking beauty - and assuming the very contrary as evil - is different than seeing words as evil.

>>769151

>And I seriously advise anyone here to be open about 16 year old girls or slightly older.

Implying that they haven't been winnie the poohed 20 times already.

>>746763

This assumes non Christian girls don't? So your only option is a Muslim woman and then you risk getting your entire family honor killed.

I'm a pagan who just keeps quiet and learns Christian theology inside and out and goes to Church because I just want to get a white wife.

All white women though don't seem to want children no matter if they are atheist, pagan, or Christian.

The situation is terrible, sigh.

>>746757

Those are things of merit. He does deserve a woman for his good attributes. Unless he has negative attributes that outweigh those positive attributes, you shouldn't be criticizing him for being tall and rich.

>>772375

Did it ever occur to you to maybe think that God is preventing you from finding a wife not just for your sake, but for hers?

No self-respecting Christian woman that's wife material will subject herself to an idolator. It's childish and women don't want to marry children, they want to marry a man. That's how healthy marriages are formed. Anything less and you run the risk of being divorce-raped.

You are already studying Christian theology just put your Idols away and begome. God will bless you with a wife when you are ready. Come Home to Rome

>>746794

PUAs should be burned at the stake in minecraft

>>753070

Lol good luck being white in east Asia. I'd go for rural Russia

>>746929

>The flood was the result of angels breeding with human women which produced nephilim

>Noah was saved because he was pure

>Jesus' entire lineage was went through just to emphasise the fact that he was pure

The bible is very against race mixing.

>>773034

The Book of Enoch is a fan fiction. Angels are spirits, and therefore have no bepis or amen for impregnating human women.

>>773035

>The Book of Enoch is a fan fiction

Genesis says Angels had sex with women;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/genesis/6.html

>The sons of God seeing the daughters of men, that they were fair, took to themselves wives of all which they chose.

>4 Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.

Also, Jude directly quotes Enoch, and Peter seems to use certain modified phrases which came from Enoch. Justin Martyr and other early Christians respected Enoch; St. Augustine changed this in the west.

>Angels are spirits, and therefore have no bepis or amen for impregnating human women

How did they impregnate women in Genesis, than?

>>773034

>Noah was saved because he was pure

Eve had no daughters, except in Jewish scripture. Who did Cain and Seth marry?

If the Angels came down and bred with the daughters of man, there had to be human-angel hybrid women born. But who did the sons of God breed with to produce their hybrids?

Cain and Seth both had to breed with their own mother, producing daughters and sons. Some of these daughters bred with their brothers or fathers, while others bred with the sons of God.

By the time of Noah, even taking into account the longer lifespans, no one was pure. Everyone was part Angel.

The Book of Enoch also describes Noah as an albino - the Bible describes Jesus as 'white as white wool;'

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/revelation/1.html

>14 And his head and his hairs were white as white wool and as snow. And his eyes were as a flame of fire:

You don't even have to open the Book of Enoch to know Angels bred with humans.

>>773034

>Noah was saved because he was pure

No, he was saved because he was faithful to God, as 99% of theologians that DON'T SHOEHORN MODERN RACIAL POLITICS INTO GENESIS can tell you.

>Jesus' entire lineage was went through just to emphasise the fact that he was pure

No, it's to empathise he is descended from David.

Rahab was in His family tree, as well as Ruth, who was a Moabite, for crying out loud!

>>746730

Faith in God is all you need and everything else is incidental and a perk.

>>773049

>Genesis says Angels had sex with women

No. If angels were having sex with women, why would God then therefore proclaim His spirit could not be among men, and then shortened man's life-span?

"sons of God" is a title for holy men, most likely the people who still kept to the religion of Adam, and whom Abel and Cain came from.

St. Augustine destroyed this reading about 1,600 years ago, catch up.

>Also, Jude directly quotes Enoch, and Peter seems to use certain modified phrases which came from Enoch. Justin Martyr and other early Christians respected Enoch; St. Augustine changed this in the west.

St. Augustine didn't "change" it, Enoch had a long history of controversy about whether or not it should be regarded as inspired scripture. Augustine's claim was that they could not trace the book of Enoch being actually protected throughout the ages, he says so in the City of God.

>How did they impregnate women in Genesis, than?

They didn't. If they did, why would God then punish man for the sins of angels?

>Eve had no daughters, except in Jewish scripture. Who did Cain and Seth marry?

If the Angels came down and bred with the daughters of man, there had to be human-angel hybrid women born. But who did the sons of God breed with to produce their hybrids?

now you're getting into x-files fan-fiction territory

>>773034

nephilim are not angel-man hybrids, all we know about them is that they existed pre-flood for a time, they may have even died out before the flood.

>>773180

>If angels were having sex with women, why would God then therefore proclaim His spirit could not be among men, and then shortened man's life-span?

As punishment.

>"sons of God" is a title for holy men

This verse;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/job/1.html

>6 Now on a certain day, when the sons of God came to stand before the Lord, Satan also was present among them.

How could Satan be present among the sons of God unless they were Angels?

This is in the context of Satan and God fighting over Job;

>7 And the Lord said to him: Whence comest thou? And he answered and said: I have gone round about the earth, and walked through it.

>8 And the Lord said to him: Hast thou considered my servant, Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a simple and upright man, and fearing God, and avoiding evil?

>9 And Satan answering, said: Doth Job fear God in vain?

>St. Augustine didn't "change" it, Enoch had a long history of controversy about whether or not it should be regarded as inspired scripture

He changed the western view of Enoch, causing it to not be available in the west. Ethiopian Christians retained it.

>Augustine's claim was that they could not trace the book of Enoch being actually protected throughout the ages, he says so in the City of God

Why is it quoted in Jude than?

>They didn't. If they did, why would God then punish man for the sins of angels?

The women were human. Eve, get it? Their breeding with the Angels caused, as you cited, God's spirit to leave man - banishment from Eden.

>If the Angels came down and bred with the daughters of man, there had to be human-angel hybrid women born. But who did the sons of God breed with to produce their hybrids?

>now you're getting into x-files fan-fiction territory

No, I'm using one scriptural argument to back up another. It isn't fan fiction to fill in massively obvious blanks like who Cain and Seth had kids with. No other women are mentioned as existing.

It's also scriptural to say Angels bred with women.

>>773191

>As punishment.

For? If it was the Nephilim who did the act, why would God punish man? It stands to reason it was not the Nephilim nor angel-man hybrids who did the act, but men who strove with God and turned their backs.

>How could Satan be present among the sons of God unless they were Angels?

If you re-read the verse carefully, it does not present Satan as a "son of God", it just mentions that he was among them (to accuse Job).

"sons of God" is still an a-angelic title, applicable towards followers of God on earth, Saints, and Angels. unless you mean to accuse Jesus Christ of being an angel…

>Ethiopian Christians retained it.

No, more like the Ethiopian sect broke off and kept it. It is not merely the West, but also the Orthodox East that reject it.

>Why is it quoted in Jude than?

Rhetorical usage is not an acceptable basis for scriptural acceptance. Why does your church not recognize the Assumption of Moses? Or the Greek playwrights St. Paul quotes?

>The women were human. Eve, get it? Their breeding with the Angels caused, as you cited, God's spirit to leave man - banishment from Eden.

You accuse God of impropriety. Not even the Fall from Eden involved only one of the two sinning, but both. You then claim God doomed Man solely because of Woman?

>No, I'm using one scriptural argument to back up another.

Your argument is fallacious to begin with, because the "sons of God" neither refer to solely angels, nor does it ever indicate there are angel-man hybrids running around.

>It's also scriptural to say Angels bred with women.

perhaps in your church

>>773368

What's it like to distort scripture to make your racism ok?

>>773376

Couldn't say. Racism is a fake and gay term coined by (((Leon Trotsky))) in the 30s. Literally an actual social construction if there ever was one and it's true design is to destroy whites and their unifying faith in Christ.

So I'm not sure what you wanted me to say or how I was supposed to interpret the question.

>>773199

>For? If it was the Nephilim who did the act, why would God punish man?

The daughters of man could have not given into their lusts - much like Eve could have not given into the snake.

>It stands to reason it was not the Nephilim nor angel-man hybrids who did the act, but men who strove with God and turned their backs

The hybrids were abominations before God, and God rebuked them. They bred with other pure humans, and before long pure human men were screwing Angel-hybrid women. At that point, man and woman were both to blame.

Also, so I already established that Jesus in the Bible is described as an albino with red eyes. In the Book of Enoch, Noah is described as an albino;

>https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Enoch_(Charles)/Chapter_106

>1. And after some days my son Methuselah took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore a son.

>2. And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head †and his long locks were white as wool,

>18. And now make known to thy son Lamech that he who has been born is in truth his son, and call his name Noah;

Why does Jude contain a quote from Enoch, and why does the Revelation contain a description of Jesus which is identical to Noah from Enoch?

>If you re-read the verse carefully, it does not present Satan as a "son of God", it just mentions that he was among them (to accuse Job)

The sons of God knew the daughters of man, and produced men of reknown; one of the sons of God was Satan. Satan is a fallen Angel. God is so displeased with the sons of God breeding with the daughters of man, he causes the deluge. Only Noah, described as an albino in Enoch, and his family are spared. Jude cites Enoch, and Jesus in Revelation is described as an albino;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/revelation/1.html

>14 And his head and his hairs were white as white wool and as snow. And his eyes were as a flame of fire:

We can throw the Book of Enoch out, and read the same story solely from Biblical sources;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/1-samuel/16.html

>12 He sent therefore and brought him. Now he was ruddy and beautiful to behold, and of a comely face

^David.

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/lamentations/4.html

>7 Zain. Her Nazarites were whiter than snow, purer than milk, more ruddy than the old ivory, fairer than the sapphire

Nazarites - Jesus was one of them, the guys who never cut their hair - were 'whiter than snow,' 'more ruddy than the old ivory.'

>Rhetorical usage is not an acceptable basis for scriptural acceptance. Why does your church not recognize the Assumption of Moses? Or the Greek playwrights St. Paul quotes?

The church does recognize that Pagans quoted by Paul are in harmony with Christianity because they (Such as Justin Martyr) show how reason and Christianity are compatible.

I'm using reason to synthesize scriptural sources to produce an interpretation of the Bible that includes;

1: Angel-human interbreeding,

2: The albino coloration of central Biblical figures,

3: A synthesized fact that pale coloration is correlated with Hebrew/Angelic ancestry,

4: That this Angelic blood is a source of blood-sin, a counter part to original sin which is in harmony with the Eve = Sinner trope because again women were fooled by Angels (Satan in Eden,)

#4 itself supports the interpretation that the sons of God were Angels - Satan first tempts Eve, and later other sons of God tempt Eve's female descendents.

>You accuse God of impropriety. Not even the Fall from Eden involved only one of the two sinning, but both. You then claim God doomed Man solely because of Woman?

Adam was tempted into sin like Eve, and men were tempted into sin by hybrid women. The woman sins first, then the man.

>perhaps in your church

You're actually the first person I've ever meant who denies that the 'sons of God' were Angels.

>>773368

Whiteness seems to be a mark of beastiality to be honest. That the whitest people (Albino Jesus) with a mark of sin would redeem humanity is probably significant. It indicates that God chose as his son on Earth a man (Jesus) who was by blood marked as the lowest of the low. Much like the metaphor of the eunuch and the dry tree, albinos are used as an example of how God can extract salvation from the sin of man.

As >>773034 said, it's interesting that the first thing Mathew wants us to know is where Jesus came from.

>>773368

I didn't even remotely have that topic in mind, unless you think miscegenation is bad cuz man-angel hybrids or something?

the whole thing is too kitschy for me, sorry

>>773421

>The daughters of man could have not given into their lusts

the sons of God copulating with the daughters of men = a race of un-godly and "interfaith" peoples. which has a particular resonance with the OT Israelite ban on copulating with the Canaanites and other rival tribes for the same reason.

>much like Eve could have not given into the snake.

Adam was always there, he failed in his responsibility to protect Eve from the snake. Go re-read Genesis, it never presents Adam being far from Eve during this event.

>The hybrids were abominations before God, and God rebuked them.

where? when? literally not scriptural.

>They bred with other pure humans, and before long pure human men were screwing Angel-hybrid women

ok, then where are the remaining angel-hybrid bloodlines?

>Also, so I already established that Jesus in the Bible is described as an albino with red eyes.

which is symbolic, because obviously He is white as snow to signify His Purity from sin, and the red eyes to signify that He will be like a Lamb.

>In the Book of Enoch, Noah is described as an albino

Which, once again, is not scripture. The entire reason the Church rejected it was because they could not verify that it was protected by the Mosaic Jews, Enoch could have been altered and tampered with at any time to support whatever.

Scriptural assurance wasn't merely trusted in, the Early Church gathered manuscripts and actively searched for misprints, tampering, and potential misreading by various transcribers. Even now literary analysis is taken very serious with a serious methodology, how much more so 1,600 years ago!

>and why does the Revelation contain a description of Jesus which is identical to Noah from Enoch?

Why does Revelation contain a description of Jesus from Genesis? I've read the Scripture, the prophesy of Christ with white skin and red eyes is in Genesis. Enoch need not even figure into the argument in the first place. Disingenuous on your part.

>The sons of God knew the daughters of man, and produced men of reknown; one of the sons of God was Satan

What nonsensical fan-fiction is this now?

>The church does recognize that Pagans quoted by Paul are in harmony with Christianity because they (Such as Justin Martyr) show how reason and Christianity are compatible.

More nonsense, Justin Martyr merely posits that it is possible that certain holy men before the arrival of Christ may have been saved due to regarding the law in their hearts, he never posits that they should be held with the same regard as scripture.

>You're actually the first person I've ever meant who denies that the 'sons of God' were Angels.

Which is pathetic, because the Church (both Catholic and Orthodox) and St. Augustine, anyone who even bothers researching this stuff seriously does not take "sons of God" as referring to angel-man hybrids or whatever.

>>773555

>ok, then where are the remaining angel-hybrid bloodlines?

Every human on Earth is polluted by Angel blood. Even Noah was a hybrid, because the 'men of reknown' who were the sons of the Angels bred into all human lines.

>which is symbolic, because obviously He is white as snow to signify His Purity from sin, and the red eyes to signify that He will be like a Lamb

If it's symbolic, why are Nazarites described the same way;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/lamentations/4.html

>7 Zain. Her Nazarites were whiter than snow, purer than milk, more ruddy than the old ivory, fairer than the sapphire

As is David;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/1-samuel/16.html

>12 He sent therefore and brought him. Now he was ruddy and beautiful to behold, and of a comely face

>Which, once again, is not scripture

You don't read; it doesn't matter;

>We can throw the Book of Enoch out, and read the same story solely from Biblical sources;

I've provided tou these sources again.

>The entire reason the Church rejected it was because they could not verify that it was protected by the Mosaic Jews, Enoch could have been altered and tampered with at any time to support whatever

Which is why it's quoted in Jude, and paraphrased in Peter?

>Why does Revelation contain a description of Jesus from Genesis? >I've read the Scripture, the prophesy of Christ with white skin and red eyes is in Genesis

And if these traits aren't symbolic, how does this not bolster my argument?

>Enoch need not even figure into the argument in the first place. Disingenuous on your part.

It's non-scriptural evidence to support the notion that Jesus was an albino. The validity of it's inclusion in the argumwnt is based on Enoch's quotation in Jude, which helps establish context for how Jude was written.

After all, it's likely Jude was familiar with Enoch - he did quote it.

>What nonsensical fan-fiction is this now?

It's in the Bible;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/genesis/6.html

>4 Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.

Men of God wouldn't produce giants;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/deuteronomy/2.html

>20 It was accounted a land of giants: and giants formerly dwelt in it, whom the Ammonites call Zomzommims, 21 A people great and many, and of tall stature, like the Enacims whom the Lord destroyed before their face: and he made them to dwell in their stead,

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/deuteronomy/3.html

>11 For only Og king of Basan remained of the race of the giants. His bed of iron is shewn, which is in Rabbath of the children of Ammon, being nine cubits long, and four broad after the measure of the cubit of a man’s hand

A cubit is roughly 18 inches long, so 9 cubits would be 162" or 13'6".

There's also a reference to giants under the waves in Job;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/job/26.html

>5 Behold the giants groan under the waters, and they that dwell with them

And in Isaiah there's a reference to God destroying giants;

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/isaiah/26.html

>14 Let not the dead live, let not the giants rise again: therefore hast visited and destroyed them, and hast destroyed all their memory

Baruch identifies these giants as the men of reknown, and affirms that they had 'great stature;'

>https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/baruch/3.html

>26 There were the giants, those renowned men that were from the beginning, of great stature, expert in war

Again, I ask you; how could human men of God produce giants? You make no sense.

>More nonsense, Justin Martyr merely posits that it is possible that certain holy men before the arrival of Christ may have been saved due to regarding the law in their hearts, he never posits that they should be held with the same regard as scripture

He cited Enoch.

>anyone who even bothers researching this stuff seriously does not take "sons of God" as referring to angel-man hybrids or whatever

So where did the giants come from?

>>773397

>Racism is a fake and gay term coined by (((Leon Trotsky))) in the 30s.

Even if he did coin the term, racism is still real and I'm sure you've been on the internet long enough to know that.

>>773605

>Every human on Earth is polluted by Angel blood.

ok, ok, this is where I stop.

>>773753

Not him, but you can deflect call your opponents pinko SJW crypto-jews all you want, but your exegisis is still retarded, and an interpretation no serious theologian has ever subscribed to.

>>773605

>Every human on Earth is polluted by Angel blood

Where the winnie the pooh are my superpowers?

>>773777

We have the superpower to do God's will on earth, that's what the Saints do. But most of us either don't believe it or prefer to do our own will.