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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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5c25e0  No.739237

“Th-the Pope isn’t speaking ex-cathedra, so it doesn’t matter that I ignore it”

>25. Among the principal duties of bishops the preaching of the Gospel occupies an eminent place.(39*) For bishops are preachers of the faith, who lead new disciples to Christ, and they are authentic teachers, that is, teachers endowed with the authority of Christ, who preach to the people committed to them the faith they must believe and put into practice, and by the light of the Holy Spirit illustrate that faith. They bring forth from the treasury of Revelation new things and old,(164) making it bear fruit and vigilantly warding off any errors that threaten their flock.(165) Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine and Catholic truth. In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent. This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking.

>Although the individual bishops do not enjoy the prerogative of infallibility, they nevertheless proclaim Christ's doctrine infallibly whenever, even though dispersed through the world, but still maintaining the bond of communion among themselves and with the successor of Peter, and authentically teaching matters of faith and morals, they are in agreement on one position as definitively to be held.(40*) This is even more clearly verified when, gathered together in an ecumenical council, they are teachers and judges of faith and morals for the universal Church, whose definitions must be adhered to with the submission of faith.(41*)

>And this infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed His Church to be endowed in defining doctrine of faith and morals, extends as far as the deposit of Revelation extends, which must be religiously guarded and faithfully expounded. And this is the infallibility which the Roman Pontiff, the head of the college of bishops, enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith,(166) by a definitive act he proclaims a doctrine of faith or morals.(42*) And therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly styled irreformable, since they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, promised to him in blessed Peter, and therefore they need no approval of others, nor do they allow an appeal to any other judgment. For then the Roman Pontiff is not pronouncing judgment as a private person, but as the supreme teacher of the universal Church, in whom the charism of infallibility of the Church itself is individually present, he is expounding or defending a doctrine of Catholic faith.(43*) The infallibility promised to the Church resides also in the body of Bishops, when that body exercises the supreme magisterium with the successor of Peter. To these definitions the assent of the Church can never be wanting, on account of the activity of that same Holy Spirit, by which the whole flock of Christ is preserved and progresses in unity of faith.(44*)

>But when either the Roman Pontiff or the Body of Bishops together with him defines a judgment, they pronounce it in accordance with Revelation itself, which all are obliged to abide by and be in conformity with, that is, the Revelation which as written or orally handed down is transmitted in its entirety through the legitimate succession of bishops and especially in care of the Roman Pontiff himself, and which under the guiding light of the Spirit of truth is religiously preserved and faithfully expounded in the Church.(45*) The Roman Pontiff and the bishops, in view of their office and the importance of the matter, by fitting means diligently strive to inquire properly into that revelation and to give apt expression to its contents;(46*) but a new public revelation they do not accept as pertaining to the divine deposit of faith.(47*)

BTFO

So, Catholic larpers, when are you going to realize that global warming is the biggest issue right now, being anti-mass-immigration is a sin, and people who were raped by priests are devils?

8f4629  No.739241

File: 2958763b5c0a9e7⋯.png (416.75 KB, 600x600, 1:1, Come out of her, my people.png)

Don't forget, we have to accept sodomites


5c25e0  No.739243

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>>739241

Always and forever


4e177f  No.739244

>>739241

A truly repentant sodomite is no longer a sodomite.


5c25e0  No.739245

>>739244

Catholics support gay marriage more than the average American so I don’t think they’re gonna repent once they’re married


8f4629  No.739246

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>>739244

That's right, but remember, who are you to judge gay people?


6910d5  No.739251

This is bait


a7f5ca  No.739253

File: de02a9158fc68f8⋯.png (17.05 KB, 600x400, 3:2, chart.4ad314b8ac2e4dc588b7….png)

Catholicism has great explanatory power that draws the intellectually lazy. For most, they have a first principle that God is specially guiding their institution so they don't individually have to know the theological arguments.

See if this matches your experience: Catholics either don't know their own basic doctrine, or they're hyperfocused and intellectual


a7f5ca  No.739255

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>>739253

Wrong pic


5c25e0  No.739258

>>739241

>>739243

>>739244

>>739245

>>739246

>>739255

Of course, this post wasn’t meant to be about gay marriage and I don’t want that to be the takeaway; this post is a reminder that everything the pope says (even not ex-Cathedra statements) are binding on Catholics and tradcaths are the biggest larpers of all


378c6b  No.739259

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>>739258

Yeah, your OP was very threatening to people that don't really care to actually learn church documents and Prots who think one verse of the bible can be used to "refute" a different verse.

>inb4 "Okay but what do you mean? How are you going to refute my OP further? I still quoted a church document and…"

I'm going to save my time and not do that

"The amount of energy necessary to refute blatant misinformation is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce them." - Alberto Brandolini


a714bc  No.739265

>>739259

Face it, you lost


4e177f  No.739269

>>739245

Catholics may support gay marriage, but the Catholic Church does not.


a714bc  No.739275

>>739269

Yes it does, from the pope to the priests


c60678  No.739308

>>739237

Who would have known when bishops come together in things called councils are infallible?

What is the ordinary Magisterium of the church?

>climate change

>matter of faith and morals

Lol

Is this just bait OP or are you actually a faggot?

>>739275

Prove it faggot.

Oh wait you can't.

>Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

>Under no circumstances can they be approved.

t. Catechism of the Catholic Church

REEEEE IT CAN'T BE HOW CAN I MAKE FUN OF CATHOLICS NOWS REEE

MUH James Martin

MUH pedo priests

MUH pope Francis likes faggots

http://m.ncregister.com/daily-news/in-new-book-pope-francis-addresses-homosexuality-and-the-clergy

>Therefore, the Church recommends that people with that kind of ingrained tendency should not be accepted into the ministry or consecrated life. The ministry or the consecrated life is not his place.”

t. Pope Francis new book

So keep your forked tongue inside your mouth snake. And remember your grave sin:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness"


4ed4b0  No.739325

Can someone stop being gay?


7f7461  No.739328

>>739325

Yes they can. Through God all things are possible


adf17b  No.739332

>>739308

Climate change is a trick to institute a secular original sin that can only be cleansed by technocrats.


3d0b9d  No.739365

>>739308

Might need to go to confession to that anger bud.


152c5c  No.739370

>orthodox blatently lieing and misrepresenting misinformation

>trying to throw "larper" back on us despite being a church full of americmutt white nationalists

If a type of person could describe orthoposters it would be the short, bald guy who is really insecure and acts aggressive because of it


4c1fb0  No.739373

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>this same old tired D&C thread

>again

>people are falling for it


378c6b  No.739423

>>739370

>Orthodox

HOLY

LEL

>Implying I'd be misled form thinking a protestant did this


10dac2  No.739510

>>739365

And you need to read other materials besides anti-Catholic propaganda.


d6342a  No.739511


390def  No.739584

>>739511

A sedevacant prot why am I not surprised.


35b694  No.739592

I literally stopped caring about homosexuals.

Only a mere fraction of them will ever truly convert in their hearts.

We should help those few who come to us to come to terms with themselves and accept that they have a cross to bear, but we shouldn't be appeasing their bodily desires.

It's fine to have affection and love for the same sex, but it must be made clear that there are fine lines that shouldn't be crossed.

Homosexuals are dangerous because:

a, bad morals

b, promiscous sex life

c, hotbed of new kind of STDs

d, undue political power

No-one would care to "hunt" them if they were moral people who did what they can to fit into society. Sadly they do anything and everything to stand out and force society to change for them instead of the other way around.


3465a3  No.739599

>>739592

>It's fine to have affection and love for the same sex,

Yes it's called friendship and two man can love each other like true bothers.

The problem is the new definition of love modern world has invented. Love=sex now.


35b694  No.739601

>>739599

Indeed.

And most people today don't have friends anymore.


bd1c51  No.739602

>>739237

You got a point. Still, what you quoted is not infaillible document, easy way out, but it works.

In definitive I think it destroy the catholic strict hierarchical vision, the spiritual charismatic (real ascetics and monks) should have more place.


3465a3  No.739604

>>739601

Were getting to the point when greeting your bros with an hug is seen as gay.


d86a50  No.739679

>>739584

Holy shit the OP isn’t advocating for any specific denom. It’s not Orthodox or Sedevacantist or even Protestant. It’s just a quotation from Lumen Gentium to put Catholic larpers in their place


8f4629  No.739691

>>739373

>when you worship politics so much that anything less than ecumenism is "D&C"


6e52aa  No.739696

>>739691

What's wrong anon, you don't agree that everyone is part of the same religion? I mean, we are all the same you know.


79d0fe  No.739742

>>739679

>Catholic larpers

My Priest doesn't agree with homosexual marriage so its not "LARPing" my dear friend. Nice try though.

I mean its obvious that nobody here actually cares about whatever argument the opposition is putting out.

>A while ago, this year

>Making arguments in different threads that if the Holy Spirit is helping interpretation of the Bible the way that Protestants claim he does, then certain Protestant dogmas would have existed before 1600

>Most posts just go by unreplied

Kek


ac00f9  No.739769

>>739742

It’s not all about gay marriage, it’s about tradcath vitriol against Pope Francis being excused as “n-not ex cathedra so I can just ignore it” reread this post

>>739258


79d0fe  No.739773

>>739769

My post still works.

>My Priest doesn't agree with …[teaching]… so its not "LARPing" my dear friend. Nice try though.

Besides you've been using >>739241 and other images as examples again and again, so I can talk about them if I want to. Let me continue arguing by saying this: If the Pope wants trad priests to stop being trad, he can further explain that he's not talking about respecting them(homos/transgenders) as human beings(which is what it sounds like anyways), but talking about how their sexuality should be treated as legitimate.

and then the auto-excommunication would step in

Again

>Your OP was very threatening to […] Prots who think one verse of the bible can be used to "refute" a different verse.


33e381  No.739786

>>739773

>be pope francis

>travel to Ireland before the abortion referendum

>don't say a single word

>abortion referendum passes without a problem in a historically catholic country

>months pass

>make a statement that abortion ain't cool

>be pope francis

>literally hundreds of clergy are exposed in sex-abuse scandals

>pedohile and homo priests are exposed every day

>gay sex orgy dicovered in the vatican

>proclaim that you won't make a statement on the issue

>play it cool and start talking about the plastic in the sea

>months pass

>well… uh… m-maybe homos shouldn't be priests… maybe…

I seem to notice a pattern here…




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