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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a6e187  No.738504

How does one be judgemental with love? How does one not feel resentment towards other people. I have the basic understanding that humans are flawed, I'm flawed and the world is complex, harsh/stressful/evil. Yet more and more I find myself angry at people. Once I accepted the concept of sin, the existence of I guess you could say "shameless, sinners" has cause me agitation. This a very new feeling for me and it worries me. I feel like I'm self radicalizing an falling into hypocrisy.

How do I continue to see the dignity in all men, including myself?

57a39e  No.738508

> How do I continue to see the dignity in all men, including myself?

you could start in Genesis where God makes man in His own image and likeness - thus declaring man a 'sacred' or 'set apart' creation, made for His own good purposes; to do His will

now continuing in Genesis we see Man rebel against our Creator in a shameless act of Sin - and it is this Sin we all inherit, and are only saved the consequences of, by a direct act of God

if you are a repentant believer, you will have recognised something of your own shameless sin, and having turned away from it, put your trust in Christ Jesus to save you from the consequences

thus you can view the unrepentant shameless sinner as the same as yourself, except for the grace of God empowering and enabling you to do good, and that same unregenerate shameless sinner as having a sacred life which should be dedicated to God's purposes, and so a person you endeavour to win to Christ


445707  No.738509

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>>738504

Be sad for them, not angry. They don't know the lord. They are missing the most important thing in their life, something you have. Pray for them instead.


7a6b74  No.738523

>>738504

same. disdain for heathens is intensifying every day


45914c  No.738527

>>738523

"Disdain" means you're indifferent, considering them unworthy of your attention. You should be doing your best to love heathens and bring them to Christ.


7a6b74  No.738532

>>738527

my autism and low social status won't allow me to. i would just make christianity look worse probably


45914c  No.738533

>>738532

None of that matters. Let in the Holy Spirit and let Christ speak through you.


7a6b74  No.738538

>>738533

i don't know how to


49ebec  No.738550

>>738538

Pray everyday and discover what it means to Love thy brother


8c93c7  No.738631

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>>738504

> Yet more and more I find myself angry at people.

Anger is just frustration increased over time, be more understanding at how much failure there is out there. If you feel yourself getting angry, just remember to be kind and rewind. Personally, I don't care much to associate with anyone or sit patiently to talk about pleasantries and the observable weather. However, I can still be kind from my chair and silence as I wait for God to call on me.


a4d982  No.738651

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>>738504

>How does one be judgemental with love?

>judgemental with love?

>judgemental

>more and more I find myself angry at people

>adjective: of or concerning the use of judgement.

>judgement

>noun: … a decision of a law court or judge.

such as maybe the greatest judge, maybe … ??

You DON'T be judgemental (of the colloquial meaning), you exercise judgement over your own behaviour, character, and actions, and you render to God what belongs to God.

Simple as that

As for

>it worries me. I feel like I'm self radicalizing an falling into hypocrisy.

ur spending far too much time on /christian/ with all these "damn the fags/jews/liberals/whoeverelsewehate" heathen. You clearly are young or young in the faith and have not yet developed your radar about who to take as meming and who to actually believe as being Godly. You need to counterbalance your intake here with proper Christians in the IRL world. You need to counterbalance by getting one heckovadeepandthorough cleaning-out with the Scripture of God. Frankly, INHO no one should come here who isn't at least one-full-read-through-the-Bible deep into the scriptures. There's too much heresy, joking and otherwise, being casually tossed about. It's not healthy for young Christians.

>How do I continue to see the dignity in all men, including myself?

You do because God does.


26f583  No.738778

>>738509

Agreed.

>>738504

Here's some reading material that I hope you will read and reflect on:

>So, what is "charity"? To have charity is to will the good of another and to act on your will as your gifts, duties, station in life, and time allow. In the Corinthians verses quoted just above, for example, the person referenced could distribute all his goods to feed the poor, but do so for the benefits to his ego, for the accolades he might receive from others for being such an apparently "holy person," and so on. While such acts offered in that manner are still commonly referred to as "charitable acts" and are good in themselves, they do no good on a supernatural level for the person performing them with the wrong motives. Distributing one's goods for accolades, or to show to others or even oneself how "good" one is, isn't pleasing to God. But doing the same out of love of one's neighbor, and/or, especially, because of the love of God – because one "sees Christ" in one's neighbor – makes that same objective act one of true charity that pleases our Creator.

https://www.fisheaters.com/conversionoftheheart.html

>Love, however, has everything to do with the desire for the good. Contemptus mundi, therefore, is the Christian rejection of the world—the human social world, in all its vanity—and its futile attempt to hide from God and from His true love. Contemptus mundi is loving refusal to condone or participate in the world’s sins. Likewise, the concept of contempt for the self (especially as used by Thomas à Kempis and Saint John of the Cross) does not mean self-loathing or self-condemnation, nor does it lead to self-punishment. It really means to set aside your self-interests so that you have the time and the inclination to pray for others and be a personal example to them, all in the interest of their spiritual good, and yet to develop your own talents as fully as possible, in spiritually healthy self-love, so that your growth might ultimately benefit the growth of others.

>If you don’t grasp this point right at the beginning of your spiritual quest, how will you ever make any spiritual progress? How will you ever fulfill the command of Christ to pray constantly (Luke 18:1), for example? How can you pray constantly when your head is filled with the world and all its cell phones, video games, television shows, movies, music, sports events, shopping, drugs, alcohol, and erotic activities?

http://www.chastitysf.com/outside_the_box.htm


26f583  No.738779

>>738778

Other considerations:

> We cannot give someone the treasure of our friendship without knowing whether or not he is an enemy of God. The person who lives in mortal sin is an enemy of God, and if we love God above everything, we cannot indifferently love those who love Him and those who offend Him. What should we think of a son who would be the friend of persons who gravely, unjustly and publicly offended his father? Is this not what we do when we admit to our friendship apostates, heretics, irregularly married couples and morally corrupted persons, etc?

https://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultural/D031_Goodheart_2.htm

>First question: “How are we to treat non-Catholics, in general, but also those with whom we may repeatedly encounter in the commercial domain (e.g., purchasing products or securing services), in specific?”

>Answer: Treat them with urbanity or cordiality, depending on each case.

https://traditioninaction.org/Questions/L003_Hierarchy.htm


101886  No.738786

Well, you see, judgement is important.

If you never judge anyone you will soon be surrounded by the worst kind of people.

And yes, there are better and worse people, don't even try to deny that.

You should have compassion for even bad people, but the idea that you are not allowed to judge a whore or a murderer is ridicolous.

Let's say you have a wife who cheats on you and gets pregnant, and you end up raising another man's child.

She wronged you. She is a selfish, evil, cruel, manipulative, parasitic person, who is using you for comfort and has no respect or love for you at all.

Now, naturally she won't want to hear that, and most people will refuse to take your side, they will judge you as a weak man, a beta, a loser, a faggot. Because it's okay to judge you, if you dare to stand up for truth and justice.

But judging an abuser? No… no we can't have that… Only God can judge them. Because apparently justice means giving every excuse to those who wronged you and letting everyone abuse you in turn.

Thing is, OP, God doesn't condemn or punish anyone. He really doesn't, because he loves us all. So where is justice? Well Justice comes as a result of sin. An abuser of wild beasts may find himself being torn apart by one, a whore may find herself worthless and empy, a murderer may find himself locked in a prison because he is a danger to the people around him and so on and so forth.

Justice is basically letting these things happen to people. To get back to my example about a cheating wife, the husband has a choice. You either let justice take it's course and throw her on the street, as is your right, and good people would never fault you for that, or you let her have her way with you. You allow evil to continue, you remove the consequences for her actions.

It's a real moral dilemma, you see, because the child she brings into the world is not responsible for her mother's whoreish ways, and yet, it's not your fault that she got pregnant.

However, no matter what you do, it's completely right for you to judge her. You are the one who was wronged. I'd say that judging people is not only our right, but a responsibility we must take. If no-one were judged for bad behaviour, it would get even more out of control than it is now.

We are at the cusp of making whoredom consequence free. We had genetically engineered babies being made HIV resistant. If they receive no negative consequences at all for being whores when they grow up, how will they know that what they are doing is wrong? Judgement and condemnation are the last bastion of moral education, and when they are gone, sexual morality will be flushed down the toilet as a useless antiquated notion of primitive savages who didn't have genetic engineering and antibiotics.


5a3139  No.738791

>>738786

You got some issues buddy


101886  No.738793

>>738791

You say that as if it was some big revelation.

We live in a world of crazies.

But I welcome your judgement, keep practicing!


b14fd0  No.739401

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Fasting, prayer and repentance.

It is the activity of the Holy Spirit which makes us understand how to be like Christ.

Just continue reaching out to God and give no place to the demon of despair.




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