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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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b589f1  No.735345

Why not let them? Or why not ease their suffering and torment? What have the children done to deserve this life? What would Jesus do?

49b77e  No.735349

Oogabooga gibsmedat


ed33aa  No.735351

File: 8570928e506bb62⋯.jpg (72.97 KB, 900x534, 150:89, 1479762859375.jpg)

>>735345

If they were Christian, they wouldn't use their children as shields.


92f204  No.735354

>The bible commands Christians to obey the law nations (as long as they're not at odds with God's laws)

>These """Christians""" illegally enters a country expecting equal treatment as citizens

Why don't they just fix their own country? Or better yet, allow America to annex it, if it's so bad their people needs to flee from it?


b589f1  No.735357

>>735348

>>735349

>>735351

>>735354

I worry for your souls. There is no compassion in this Christian Board. These are humans but you treat them like vermin invading a house. What made you like this?


ed33aa  No.735361

>>735357

I only treat fedoras like vermin.


37f116  No.735365

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ff83fc  No.735366

>>735345

What kind of a Christian parent drags their children away from their homes and then uses them as bargaining chips to get welfare?

>What would Jesus do?

<Luke 17:2

<It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Now what kind of a Christian breaks the law? Romans 13 tells us in no uncertain words that we are to submit ourselves to the ruling authorities, but these migrants show no respect whatsoever to the governing authorities of Mexico or the USA. Is this Christian behavior?

>>735357

And if you think that Christ will overlook your self-righteousness on the dread Day of Judgement because you say to Him "Lord, did I not try to emotionally manipulate people in your name? Was I not a good white ally in your name? Did I not consistently vote for abortionists in your name?" Then He will say to you "Depart from me, you worker of iniquity. I never knew you."


c98012  No.735369

File: 192698b884be834⋯.jpg (7.22 KB, 211x220, 211:220, atheist.jpg)

>>735357

>>735345

now this is some lazy concern trolling.


42cbde  No.735374

File: 36b5052836ac5c3⋯.jpg (38.56 KB, 620x330, 62:33, flag-620x330.jpg)

>>735345

If these invaders were Christian, they wouldn't be disrespecting Mexico and The US' sovereignty by trying to break into the US.

If they were Christian, they wouldn't call the President "the Anti-Christ"

If they were Christian, they wouldn't be running from their problems and try to fix their shithole country.

Alot of these invaders are communists anyway. So winnie the pooh them. Send them back home where they belong.


2720d4  No.735377

>>735374

Agree. America is not a Church. If an American wants to help with they should build a Church or send money to a Church in that Country.

I feel very sorry for them that God has blessed me to be born in America and not them. However, I care about My Country and Family. I do not want it harmed. Things are already horrible in America. Letting these poor people in will make it worse.

We should not all immigration. However, I don't think We will.

I think things will get much worse. I pray for the return of Jesus.


2720d4  No.735382

>>735357

America is in a horrible state. We need to make things much better here before we let anyone in.

Churches in America should do something after helping our own people.

It wouldn't cost too much to build a Church with a tent city near the border for these people.

THEY MUST STAY OUT. WE CAN'T HELP.


42cbde  No.735385

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>>735377 (checked)

We can barely take care of our own people. To take in these invaders would be irresponsible and a slap in the face of our people.

The only people that benefit are the unethical corporations that use them as cheap labor, denying a job to an American that needs it more.

Besides the US gives Central America enough money in foregin AID, they can take care of themselves but they chose to be garbage instead.

Also, before I forget, OP is a /leftpol/ faggot.


42cbde  No.735395

File: e3f02a1bee64d44⋯.png (121.67 KB, 863x658, 863:658, 1526029540809.png)

>>735357

>If you don't let these invaders illegally enter your country you have no compassion

>If you dont let these sinners break into heaven you have no compassion

>If you don't let the rapist rape your daughter you have no compassion

>If you don't let the thief steal your money you have no compassion


87db85  No.735412

>>735345

Starving refugees are not fat


5f58aa  No.735420

>>735412

Fatty foods are the only things that poor ppl can afford to eat these days


5f58aa  No.735422

>>735395

>>invaders


34d580  No.735445

>>735420

Eating fat doesn’t make you fat. Eating too much of anything does


24258a  No.735447

File: 38f725f3cdf5527⋯.jpg (86.1 KB, 700x826, 50:59, EBB1034B9AC0434E825139E645….jpg)

>>735445

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/79/1/6/4690070

Poor people can't afford good food so they consume a lot of factory processed carbs, fructose and sugar, humans are not designed to consume these and these glycogen gets stored as fat surrounding the belly area.

The reason why black people and Mexicans are fat is not because they eat too much but they eat the wrong food, they're also genetically built to store energy as fat cause their ancestors barely had anything to eat. They do eat too much cause fructose is more addicting the cocaine, this is not limited to minorities but white people are affected by it too.

Look up Mexican and black people diet, it's mostly compromised of processed food and food with high level of sugar/fructose, well you can look up the diet of ANY fat American and find the similarities.

>>735395

We're brothers and sisters by faith and not by racial or national identity.

Galatians 3:28-29 King James Version (KJV)

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


1146b7  No.735448

>>735345

Round up all the druglords and CIA glow-in-the-darks into his barn and burn them with unquenchable fire as punishment for their greed, deceptions, idolatries, and murders.


42cbde  No.735461

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>>735447

>t. Someone that is disobedient and doesn't render unto Ceaser.

Christians don't attack Mexican Authorites https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-20/central-american-migrants-in-clash-at-mexico-border/10399802

How many Romans did Jesus attack? How many Romans did Jesus tell his followers to assault?

Besides, what kind of Christian endangers their children to drag them over 1000 miles into a country supposedly run by the "the Anti-Christ", racists, and ebil fascists?

If these so called christians only wanted asylum, why did they refuse asylum from mexico? http://todaycostarica.com/majority-of-us-bound-migrants-refuse-asylum-in-mexico/

You can give me your feel good pinko drivel all you want, it doesn't change the fact that these Honduran commies are not Christians. They disrespect and are breaking the laws of Mexico and America.

They ought to not be winnie the pooh cowards and fix their shithole country. They voted for it after all.


3452e2  No.735473

>>735345

Read paleochristian writings such as the Didache.

"But receive everyone who comes in the name of the Lord, and prove and know him afterward; for you shall have understanding right and left. If he who comes is a wayfarer, assist him as far as you are able; but he shall not remain with you more than two or three days, if need be. But if he wants to stay with you, and is an artisan, let him work and eat. But if he has no trade, according to your understanding, see to it that, as a Christian, he shall not live with you idle. But if he wills not to do, he is a Christ-monger. Watch that you keep away from such.

This is what the first christians believed, not some modern feelgood human rights crap.

Prove and know them, for if they come to our countries to steal, sell drugs and don't work they must not be allowed.

Even those who are in need assist only as far as you are able. Unlimited immigration would result in a mass fall of the standard of living for the entire population. This is not assistance, this is irrational pathological altruism beyond our possibility.


24258a  No.735476

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>>735461

>heaven has a wall with strict immigration policies, hell has open border

Doesn't that mean being a Christian is enough to cross a border ? Afterall God doesn't judge nations but individual. Nation is vanity.


347b2c  No.735477

>>735422

Invaders. Who refused asylum,work visas, free food and free clothes from charities in Mexico.

They are economic invaders.


8e2c9c  No.735484

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>>735345

>What have the children done to deserve this life?

Nothing.

Too bad that allowing migration will only pass in 30 year old males looking for free government giveaways and light up the lives of about 3 children, 5 if we're lucky.


2d8de0  No.735487

>>735345

Look at this fake ass picture. Look at the clean soles of that girl, no scraps at their knees either…have you ever seen a kid that age without bloody knees? You think those kids came walking from Honduras? My ass. And that fatso bitch certainly didn't carry them. She would break into a sweat lifting a big mac. This is all stage nonsense. Deliberate misinformation for political purposes.

If you want to do something then get your nose out of the book, get out there and preach honest, god fearing morals into this world. Also don't forget to bring up the connection between banks and evil. Amen.


2d8de0  No.735489

Another thing…if you call yourself Christian then this is the time to forge a future for your religion by stamping out the evil corrupting your name. Walk into your church and drag those lying, corrupting, false preachers out of the temple of god and wholeheartedly preach the morals of truth and honesty. Afterwards get out and clean up your god damn communities. Put your faith into yourself and the people supporting you and receive gods blessing to strive for a better world…this is what you meant to be doing in the first place.


37f116  No.735504

>>735476

>Being a Christian means you get to disobey the law and place a financial burden on a nations inhabitants

You deserve to be beaten.


3da977  No.735505

File: b04f853da1cf171⋯.jpg (245.4 KB, 800x850, 16:17, 1543676260907.jpg)

>>735345

But are they christian?

Doubtfull, to woship mary like these, it would rather be babylonian Paganism

Now do they have right to enter the US? Does it say to treat a foreigner living amongst you like a good friend?

In regards to the second saying it does say so, but in reverse there are even stricter laws against foreigners,

Keep them out, for their goal is the destabilisation of Trumps Regime to being upon an age of the anti christ, knowingly or unknowingly the more clever of them has called out that they are being helped by someone superior, of which they are told not to talk about

these superiors, An Enemy to God

And should be treated as such


24258a  No.735513

File: 85f036a5ec6443d⋯.jpg (33.89 KB, 461x439, 461:439, left_wing_parasite.jpg)

>>735504

>financial burden on a nations inhabitants

Implying it's the duty of government to provide welfare and incentives to lazy asses. Lol, didn't Trump promise tax cuts and isolationism ? Guess all politicians are psychopaths

https://youtu.be/a2u01ngQSTM


8e2c9c  No.735521

>>735513

>Lol

Post discarded, along with poster.


24258a  No.735525

File: 72e97ff553c3b3a⋯.jpg (45.93 KB, 625x415, 125:83, 1536798348813.jpg)

>>735521

>can't provide valid argument

Okay mate


8e2c9c  No.735527

>>735525

I could be bothered with arguing with you, but:

1.Your argument is really annoying in the sense that I'd have to spend way too much time stopping it(Or as someone else put it: "The energy needed to stop garbage is a magnitude higher than the energy needed to create it").

2.You aren't supposed to be here, I can tell because you have bad grammar, poor spacing, and repost trashy videos form popular youtubers.

3.Nobody is going to be changing their minds over the argument

If I were to argue with you, on the things that you want to talk about, I would legitimately be doing something very useless.


24258a  No.735529

>>735527

Nice ad hominem


b5e20e  No.735530

You will know them by their fruits.

>illegally enter a foreign country

They are criminals, not Christians. Easy enough.


f614a5  No.735531

Nehemiah was a wallbuilder


37f116  No.735539

>>735513

>Bitch about """immigrants""" not being let in

>"Lol didn't Trump promise tax cuts and isolationism"

What the WTP do you think tacos not being allowed into the country is?


8941f2  No.735541

>>735345

The migrants are looters, and have kidnapped Mexican police.

<But they're nominally Christian

GROW UP


2ea58d  No.735543


2ea58d  No.735544

>>735527

Well put, keep saging this pointless and rather unChristian OP.


f511f6  No.735549

>>735345

In the caravan that rushed the boarder, there may have been Christians but it mainly was probably filled with drug-dealers and gangsters. That’s why we can’t just let anyone in; we don’t know wether they are good or bad.


b54d46  No.735578

Because this is a capitalist trick to gain usury, nothing else.

Human Rights say migrant workers are a human right. That it is a human right to be an economic migrant, that nations have less of a priority than corporate profit. They would destroy any group for profit, and have the backing to do it.


b54d46  No.735579

>>735578

Human Rights is newspeak for corporate slavery.


65392f  No.735588

>>735476

Anyone can claim to be a Christian, but God will know if they are by the fruits they produce. SPOILER ALERT

Render unto Ceaser

these invaders aren't Christian

Now go back to halfchan.


8b8ba8  No.735590

File: aaaa32a4335dfb8⋯.jpg (114.93 KB, 2048x2040, 256:255, apVXwGQ.jpg)

>>735345

>omg, you nationalists have no compassion

>don't you remember that time in the bible when Jesus advocated his followers break the law?

>that was awesome!

>now be good goyim and let these parasites drain the welfare system in your country


53915d  No.735596

File: 4f34788234571c6⋯.jpg (38.63 KB, 544x366, 272:183, 4f34788234571c6f88556207ec….jpg)

lol


2dbabf  No.735606

>>735447

>they're also genetically built to store energy as fat cause their ancestors barely had anything to eat

Not really true. Almost everybody in western countries eats more than their recent ancestors did (you have to go out of your way not to), but the real difference with blacks and amerindians is that they've had agriculture for much less time and so are less well adapted to eating grains.

>28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I'm sure you know that "there is neither male nor female" is not an exhortation to accept transgenderism, so you should also recognize that "There is neither Jew nor Greek" is not an exhortation to submit to foreign invaders.


eaa5c0  No.735608

>>735447

wrong. sugar is not the problem. fructose is not the problem. these things are good for you. carbs are good for you. yes, even white sugar.

the problem is polyunsaturated fats. pufas.

corn oil, sunflower oil, canola oil etc. all these cheap popular oils that were introduced to the market around the 60s. they're high in pufas. pufas are absolutely toxic.

pufas are behind the obesity epidemic. they're also behind the rise in cancer, alzheimer's, diabetes etc.

i can assure you that if most people who supposedly have diabetes simply stopped eating pufas, their health would go back to normal. but pufas are everywhere, everyone uses them, every restaurant uses them.

as for the main topic, schmaltzy humanitarian pro-immigrant words don't eliminate the fact that there are ulterior motives behind pro-immigration policies (namely, the eradication of whites). i think the apostle told us to be wise as serpents. all people are children of God, racism is a sin, but let's not be normies about this.


48799b  No.735609

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>>735345

Christians don't vote for abortion parties.


eaa5c0  No.735610

>>735354

Who cares about the law. Mexican families cross the border in hope of a better life on the other side. Millions of people live as illegals in the US and their standard of living is well above that which they left behind. I'm Brazilian. I live in Brazil. There are plenty of Brazilians living illegally in the US, making far more money there working construction, driving for Lyft etc. than they did doing more respectable jobs over here.

When an illegal immigrant commits actual crimes like stealing then yes, he is sinning. But going all legalistic over the fact that they're "illegals" is some faggy-ass pharisaism.


28cedf  No.735611

Lord, I don't think I've ever been more ashamed of this board. It's not the fact that they disagree, but the venom with which they do so.


8cf12f  No.735613

>>735610

>It’s pharisaism if it’s inconvenient for me


0b9443  No.735614

>>735610

>Who cares about the law

oof

remind me to not let your kind into my country


eaa5c0  No.735615

>>735613

Actually yeah. Pharisees are usually on the side of power. Forgive the SJW term, but it is easy to moralize from a position of privilege.


48799b  No.735616

>>735611

>OY VEY why are you goyim so angry that we created a demographic situation that makes civil war inevitable??? Not very Jesus like!


8cf12f  No.735618

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>>735615

AHAHAHAHAHA

>Ey gringo, you know those Ten Commandments ese? Those are so bad man, they’re kind of inconvenient for me

>You gotta let me break the law and steal and trespass ‘cusses thas’ what Haysoos would do, man

>*Produces half a dozen illegitimate children with live-in girlfriend*


eaa5c0  No.735620

>>735614

Americans have an inordinate respect for the law.

If we're talking natural law, by which I mean actual concrete morality, then by all means let us be lawful.

What I object to is legalism. Like thinking "jaywalking" is a serious sin. This seems to be a common attitude in America. Inordinate obsession with petty rules. It's gay.


eaa5c0  No.735621

>>735618

You have completely mischaracterized my post. Good job. Now go ride your fatmobile.


eaa5c0  No.735624

>>735618

Come to think of it, it's not so bad. Instead of a nation of unbelieving whites, America way be on its way to becoming a nation of Mary-venerating mestizos.


8cf12f  No.735627

>>735621

Fix your own county instead of ruining someone else’s.

>>735624

>Implying Mexicans are practicing Catholics and not just nominal


28cedf  No.735629

>>735616

Probably the worst impersonation I've ever had done


8b8ba8  No.735632

>>735624

Racist much?


48799b  No.735634

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>>735620

>Illegally entering a country with a welfare state is a petty crime

>>735624

>Admitting to engaging in ethnic warfare.


eaa5c0  No.735635

>>735632

Haha yeah for sure.


9a012d  No.735636

>>735369

/christian/ in general has a serious problem with concern trolling.


eaa5c0  No.735637

>>735634

Okay, so let me be clear.

Illegally entering the US with the intention of being a leech is *immoral*. And it's a pity that most immigrants seem to fit the bill.

But there's nothing immoral about being a hard-working illegal, and there are plenty of them.


8b8ba8  No.735638

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>>735610

>why are you people so upset that people are breaking into your country?

>its okay to break a nation's laws as long as it isn't stealing

>it's what Jesus would have wanted

>now let the brown people into your country so they can make it a shithole like the last country they lived in.

>hue hue hue hue


48799b  No.735639

>>735637

>and there are plenty of them.

No there aren't. You don't have a right to live next to white people. You already let your mask slip and revealed you are pleased that white people are being replaced. You are our enemy.


eaa5c0  No.735640

>>735638

How about lighting up a cigarette in a "No Smoking" area. Does your delicate soul flinch at the thought?


eaa5c0  No.735642

>>735639

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


8b8ba8  No.735643

File: 033aae81d1d4eab⋯.jpg (184.81 KB, 1024x681, 1024:681, homeless3-1024x681.jpg)

>>735637

>it's okay to take jobs away from Americans because the people illegally coming in are hard workers

>totlly nothing immoral or irresponsible about that at all

>we need to put other 3rd worlders first before all the homeless people here in America.

>just let the invaders in goyim!


84aea3  No.735644

>>735637

If they were hardworking they would fix their own homeland instead of being parasites. I don't want any in my country, they are a threat to everyone and thing I love


48799b  No.735645

>>735642

>30 And if ye vote for abortionists and fag enablers then ye are still Christian

"No!"


8b8ba8  No.735646

File: e042882399e98f3⋯.jpg (40.52 KB, 800x450, 16:9, brainlettttt.jpg)

>>735640

>smoking in a no smoking area is exactly like endangering your kids on a 1000 mile trek so you can break into a country for those sweet gibs.

>it's exactly what Jesus would have wanted

>so just let these people break the law already


eaa5c0  No.735650

>>735644

>If they were hardworking they would fix their own homeland instead of being parasites.

Silly you. How much agency do you think the populace really has? We're all in the grip of the Cabal to a greater or lesser degree.

The problem here in Brazil and in most impoverished countries is the State. We don't lack natural resources, we don't lack the will to work. But a lot of our money gets eaten by taxes. Our economy gets strangled by regulations. The State and its laws are the problem.

In the US you have a more thriving economy, an economy less choked by regulations and taxes. Which is why so many people want to live there.


eaa5c0  No.735651

>>735645

I'm not a leftist. I voted for Bolsonaro. I would have voted for Trump if I were American.


e35fcc  No.735652

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eaa5c0  No.735653

>>735646

I don't know man, I guess you're country is becoming less white and I guess that's a bummer, but Mexicans are still God's children.


84aea3  No.735654

>>735650

> How much agency do you think the populace really has?

This is pathetic. If you can't even attempt to take a stand in your own home you are useless. Messystizos have been nothing but a curse


eaa5c0  No.735655

>>735654

Alright, big man. What are you doing about the Satanic child sacrifices in your soil? Seems to be a big thing over there.


24258a  No.735657

>>735655

Romans 13 bro, I must worship my authority and pay my taxes to bomb children in middle east, I mean it's better than voting for Democrats amirite ? While they chop babies with forceps the republicans bomb the babies which is far better dude.


48799b  No.735660

File: 8eec38a8351f29e⋯.png (67.88 KB, 756x794, 378:397, 1_kqmASqtNdWES_TDviTI4vA.png)

>>735650

And yet 65% of you come here and vote for more regulations, more taxes, more abortion, more LGBT "rights", etc, etc, ETC.

>>735651

The vast majority of your coethnics disagree with you.


4dd445  No.735662

File: 04f6e53168da359⋯.png (105.04 KB, 500x507, 500:507, our-sun-my-disgust-9752849.png)

>>735650

So your people make a mess in your country by voting for garbage people to steal everything from you in taxes, and instead of trying to fix the mess you created you want to run away from your problems.

Very Christian like.


8cf12f  No.735666

Smallpox wasn’t enough.


24258a  No.735667

File: cd3f064efb408db⋯.png (651.37 KB, 680x628, 170:157, QJYyLvy.png)

>>735662

What if the majority happens to be commie and the minority happens to be Christians who seek refuge for a better living ? Cmon you shouldn't judge people by their skin ! Sure there are bad people among them, bad people are everywhere and they're in every race.

Look at America, you people on average pay 5 month earning to the government in just a year and your dictators just bomb people who disagree with them, is this what the American people want ? America and Europe has been sold out to the masons and satanic Jews, there's nothing you can do and nationalism is nothing but a psy op to control the general population.

Well, compare the tweets and promises by Trump before and after election for yourself, don't fall for the politics and media, be yourself and disconnect from these brainwashing stuffs, that's just my opinion it's up to you.


8b8ba8  No.735668

File: 71ec1d5b5647b8a⋯.png (9.44 KB, 239x211, 239:211, download.png)

>>735653

Muh mexican supremacy is not an argument, but please keep distracting from how much you got BTFO.

These central American parasites are not Christians and I feel no sympathy for these criminals


eaa5c0  No.735669

>>735668

Haha nah, I'm just done bantering. But if you really need to feel victorious, then ok, I declare you victorious. Best regards.


8b8ba8  No.735672

>>735667

Commies can never be Christian. These invaders are not Christians and never have been. Nationalism is working wether pinko faggots like you like it or not.

If they want to come to America they can do so legally. Until then they can rot at the border for all I care.


eaa5c0  No.735675

>>735662

I'm just saying you can make more money working construction in the US than working some respectable bureaucratic job here in Brazil. Which is why living in America even as an illegal is such an attractive prospect for many.

But we just elected a very conservative guy here in Brazil, so things are looking up.


dd0d64  No.735677

>>735351

>If they were Christian, they wouldn't use their children as shields.

let's see what the christian bible says:

https://biblehub.com/john/3-16.htm

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechism_of_the_Catholic_Church

The Catechism of the Catholic Church (Latin: Catechismus Catholicae Ecclesiae; commonly called the Catechism or the CCC) is a catechism promulgated for the Catholic Church by Pope John Paul II in 1992.[2][3] It sums up, in book form, the beliefs of the Catholic faithful.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

CHAPTER TWO I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD


84aea3  No.735680

>>735677

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

Btw - Mormons say they believe in Jesus too, why don't you have more love for them? Not as beneficial for your agenda? Hmm


8b8ba8  No.735691

File: 9e3bcfa513b168c⋯.png (328.77 KB, 400x400, 1:1, f6a78794-6840-4d96-b54c-3d….png)

>>735675

You know what? I sincerely hope Bolsonaro fixes Brazil and makes it great again. You Brazilians deserve better than those before him.


609d6c  No.735712

>>735691

God bless Bolsonaro.


fefc91  No.735921

File: a8860a0df30409d⋯.jpg (108.22 KB, 767x768, 767:768, ancaps.jpg)

>>735672

Just because I despise nationalism doesn't make me a commie. Libertarians, ancaps, pacifists, fundamentalists, Baptists, calvinist and isolationists dislike nationalism too, There's nothing wrong in being proud of your nation but keep it to yourself, one shouldn't enforce man made law upon other people of the nation and stop idolising the nation or race you've born in.


95e532  No.735947

>>735351

They are predominantly Catholic.


c1afd2  No.735948

>>735947

And breaking laws is a mortal sin; cast the first stone anon.


fefc91  No.735949

File: 4024cc0cb484299⋯.jpg (95.69 KB, 867x685, 867:685, 1542860949616.jpg)

>>735948

The law requires Christian doctors to perform abortion and Christians to tolerate faggots, am I supposed to follow those ? One is free to break the law since the law isn't the ultimate end but God is.


c1afd2  No.735950

>>735949

There are just laws, and you know which are just. Killing a child is evil; and breaking into a country unlawfully is evil.


fefc91  No.735953

>>735950

How is a strict immigration policy not evil and how would you justify it ? The Bible doesn't support immigration policy.

Proverbs 22:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.

Leviticus 19:33-34 King James Version (KJV)

33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.


6402b0  No.735954

>>735953

At the risk of putting words in God's mouth, this is what I shall say from someone who read the Greek, with a foundation in both Ancient and Koine Greek. The specific Greek word chosen to capture the actual tone, and point, refers to foreign GUESTS. Today we use "xenophobic" to to describe people who hate foreigners, but this word is literally rendered as "fear of foreign guests".

"And if a foreign guest sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him,"

"But the foreign stranger that staying together with you will be unto you as one born in the same place as you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were foreign guests in the Land of Egypt.

These specific phrases talk about a guest culture, and being kind to wayfarers and pilgrims.

It would certainly be a sin to deny a man a glass of water and a place to rest if he came past your mountain cabin. It would be a sin if he had no other place to say and he asked to pitch a tent on your property for the night to rest and you denied him.

It would not be a sin to prevent the opening of the borders of your country, lowering the quality of others lives, and thereby stealing from them.

A nation is like a pizza. A pizza can only be sliced so many times before people start getting slices too small to be full. After enough immigration? People start getting slices too small to even sate their nutritional requirements: and then you have to start taking some of these slices from others to make sure a chosen group has enough slices to survive.

This is favoritism, this is theft, theft is a sin. Unchecked immigration is politicized theft from the poor already reliant on social services which will eventually be worn to their breaking points.

I mean ultimately you are concern trolling which is ultimately the first step leftists use to attempt to get Christians on their side (before the utter contempt for christian principles is made known).


15e042  No.735962

>>735351

>If they were really Christians, they would be perfect and never do anything wrong, like me


fefc91  No.735963

>>735954

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/foreigner.html

{

if

Strict.immigration=false

Op=commie

Exit;

}

I AM NOT A COMMIE I SUPPORT FREE MARKET WTF ALSO READ THE LINK.

The pizza allegory is as bad as the dog breed allegory which is used to "prove" different races.


fefc91  No.735964

>>735954

>This is favoritism, this is theft, theft is a sin. Unchecked immigration is politicized theft from the poor already reliant on social services which will eventually be worn to their breaking points.

It is not the duty of the government to provide welfare, the fault is with the government and not with immigration. The government should leave it to the private charities.


6402b0  No.735966

File: 1d014cbf0879aa2⋯.jpg (31.07 KB, 672x787, 672:787, 1542079870387.jpg)

>>735963

>Evangelical Bible

Yes, please quote your Schofield bible at me, truly you have my best interest at heart.

The word is Xenos. The word means "foreign guest". That is how the word is used in ancient Greek, that is how the word is used in Koine Greek, and that is how the word is used in the Greek of the Second Sophistic literary period. It has no conotation of "resident alien" or "green card holder".

You are literally quoting an article written by a Canadian man who teaches at a Baptist Seminary founded in 1949. I can go down to my local strip-mall and hear deeper theology than this.

Pick up a Douay Rheims, or go learn the Ancient Greek.

>Pizza Analogy Bad.

The pizza analogy is an extremely simplified way of explaining finite resources to someone who seems to think unchecked immigration is OK.

Resources are finite. Everything you do not produce yourself is stolen from someone else. Make peace with this, and repent.

>>735964

It is not the duty of the government to provide welfare, but should there be sufficient budget surplus it is moral and righteous for the government to look after its own citizens which are suffering.

Oh, and

>npc meme

>posts evangelical schofield bible drivel


fefc91  No.735969

>>735966

Did you even read the article ?


fefc91  No.735970

File: 13c0d9074488570⋯.mp4 (6.8 MB, 640x360, 16:9, OY VEY.mp4)

>>735966

>It is not the duty of the government to provide welfare, but should there be sufficient budget surplus it is moral and righteous for the government to look after its own citizens which are suffering.

Wtf


6402b0  No.735972

>>735970

Duty implies a permanence as in "it must always be done".

Should a government be able to provide welfare without endangering the citizenry by imposing unfair taxation, welfare is fine: there is nothing inherently wrong with it.

>>735969

Yes, and I disagree.

Essentially he argues because our ultimate home is in Heaven, everyone is a guest everywhere and has no homeland: from which you argue "immigration control bad". I diametrically reject such an assumption, and believe the author's grasp of the scripture is tenuous at best.


e41e34  No.735973

>>735345

>>735357

>>735677

>Obey the government, for God is the one who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. 2 So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow. 3 For the policeman does not frighten people who are doing right; but those doing evil will always fear him. So if you don’t want to be afraid, keep the laws and you will get along well. 4 The policeman is sent by God to help you. But if you are doing something wrong, of course you should be afraid, for he will have you punished. He is sent by God for that very purpose. 5 Obey the laws, then, for two reasons: first, to keep from being punished, and second, just because you know you should.

Read Romans 13, not leftist propaganda. If you don't want tear gas thrown at you, then don't cast the first stone.

There's biblical basis for this, I don't know why users on /christian/ didn't respond with this verse. There's a good reason why plenty of concern trolls have an aversion to Pual. READ ROMANS


12dc75  No.735988

>>735624

If Mestizos are so devout, how come I never any of them at Mass? I live in a ghetto shithole city and even so my parish is over 90% White.


5039fd  No.735989

>>735921

>christian

>lolberg

choose one


e79496  No.736029

>>735624

This. Half of the latinos are named Jesus. They are the most godly of all peoples on earth. (But still not as godly as the chosen ones)


da8729  No.736033

>>736029

Yeah, and Mormons call themselves the Jesus Christ Church of Latter Day Saints. Anyone can use a name.


eaa5c0  No.736041

>>735973

A comparison should be drawn here between Roman law in the first century AD and the laws of the contemporary modern State. Is anyone in this forum erudite enough for the task?

A distinction between natural law and positive law should also be drawn, as well as a distinction between de jure laws and de facto laws. Being a moral man is one thing; being a legalist faggot is quite another thing.

The libertarians are right. Our legal systems have grown inordinately draconian and totalitarian. There is a place for civil disobedience. There is a place for resistance (and I say this as a conservative).

There is something profoundly unmanly about the facile legalism you are espousing. I don't think your update of Romans 13 will stir the heart of anyone who knows anything about cops and what really goes on in upper echelons of American law enforcement.


eaa5c0  No.736042

>>735972

> welfare is fine: there is nothing inherently wrong with it.

Welfare degrades its recipients. This is a known fact, and it is precisely for this reason that it is implemented by the State. Stop being a dummy.


53b20e  No.736062

>>736041

>I say this as a cuckservative

Surprise surprise, scratch a (((conservative))) "Christian", find an irreligious liberal progressive. The eternal cuckold is limitlessly deferential to the law so long as it harms the people he has a duty of loyalty to, but when the law protects them, he amazingly finds room for (((civil disobedience))). "The libertarians are right!" he anemically cries "All people everywhere have a right to invade my country!" Spineless traitors like you make me sick.

>>735345

Why not sell your birthright for pottage? Why not mortgage your children's future in order to help invaders steal from your neighbor? Why not be worse than a non-believer? Jesus would definitely betray his nation. There's something wrong with your brain if you're not just a /leftypol/ false flagger.

>>735476

The bible was written with nations of humans in mind, not deracinated bug people whose minds have been retarded progressive nonsense. "Nations are vanity," what the winnie the pooh is wrong with you? Denying natural law is vanity, you have a duty to your nation you sick freak


eaa5c0  No.736067

>>736062

Easy there buddy, I actually agree with your points.

I'm the Brazilian guy from yesterday. Maybe you're the same guy who was arguing with me yesterday.

Ok, here goes a little rant.

There obviously are not very benign agendas behind the mass migrations to the US and Europe we have been witnessing. I don't dispute that at all.

"Romans 13" legalists are a pet peeve of mine. People brandish the passage as if there were a perfect equivalence between the legal and cultural milieu of first century Rome and our modern milieu.

We are being primed for destruction. Small entrepreneurs get crushed by the Leviathan. The path is being cleared for Big Business. We live in a legal climate in which only the Big Boys may thrive. Microsoft and Apple own the copyrights to the essential softwares and lines of code. Yes, even lines of code are patentable. Even molecules (Big Pharma) and seeds (Monsanto) are patentable. Everything is owned by Big Business.

Our souls are being corrupted by the internet, our bodies are being corrupted by GMOs and SSRIs. We are slaves to monopolies. Netflix, Spotify, Monsanto, Google, Walmart. It's a form of socialism by corporations. We are enslaved to these shitty monolithic services, but it is all done under the blessed auspices of the Law, so we sleep peacefully at night.

The powers that be, whoever they may be, "the Jews", the globalists, I don't care - they are hellbent on destroying us, and they are using the law to do so. Being a strict legalist in our modern situation is a form of slow, voluntary death.

But dare to live off the grid - say, self-medicating with illegally obtained nootropics (as in not having a prescription) instead of taking SSRIs, or torrenting a movie that is not on Netflix -, and the little pedantic altar boys come out of the woodwork wagging their fingers and brandishing their Romans 13.

That's all. I despise these guys. I know several serious Christians who agree with me on these points, but there are so many petty legalists out there. I despise them. I wish they would wise up.


fefc91  No.736069

>>736062

what the winnie the pooh is wrong with you? Denying natural law is vanity

My friend…. I'm out of words……


c1afd2  No.736072

>>735972

fighting the good fight brother. God bless you.


eaa5c0  No.736073

>>736062

I will give another example of what I'm talking about.

There's this plant here in Brazil called "babosa". It has been cultivated in Brazilian homes for centuries. It has a wide range of medicinal uses. It's a healthy plant.

It's not a drug. It doesn't affect your mental state at all. It's simply a medicinal plant.

Well, guess what? Babosa has recently been banned by Anvisa (our version of FDA). If you grow babosa in your home you are now a criminal.

Not only are you now a criminal, but according to our lovable "Romans 13" brethren, you are also a sinner if you grow babosa in your home.

This kind of legalism is absurd. You have to draw the line somewhere. Otherwise you become less than human. You become a total slave to the State.


fefc91  No.736076

>>736073

Did they just ban Aloe Vera ? Wtf why? It's good for skin care and digestion. Weird.


c1afd2  No.736077

>>736073

Why don't you ask your priest if the word of God disturbs you so much? Does one unjust Law justify breaking all the just?


e57b4f  No.736078

>>735366

>Calls someone self righteous

>Proceeds to sit on Christ's Dread Judgement Seat and condemn them to the lake of fire on Christ's behalf

wew


eaa5c0  No.736079

>>736077

The word of God doesn't disturb me. What disturbs me is faggots like you.


fefc91  No.736080

File: 534c1d31476f10f⋯.jpg (39.65 KB, 640x1138, 320:569, JzFwvaE_d.jpg)

>>736077

>we must follow the law

>the state makes both the just and unjust law

>lulz just follow the just law idk how it's just but I like it so it's just

>you don't like it ? Romans 13 bro


c1afd2  No.736081

>>736079

Obviously it does, Romans 13 asks you to respect the laws of the State, and you want to break with the teaching of God on the matter.

If there is a law that does not conflict, or is in accordance, with the law of God, you are expected to respect it. Break it at your own peril.

>>736080

abortion is wrong, a ban on aloe vera is whatever

your issues with authority aren't in accordance with the obedience commanded by the Gospel


eaa5c0  No.736082

>>736076

Yeah, I googled it, looks like aloe vera is pretty famous worldwide. Well, it's called babosa here, and many people cultivated it at home.

Looks like the guy behind the ban is the president of some kind of regional drugstores council, which makes sense. People consuming babosa means less people consuming the patented meds sold at drugstores.

Also, bureaucracies are like cancer. They never stop growing. Organs like the FDA are ever in search of new things to ban. Didn't they try to ban coconut oil in the United States?


eaa5c0  No.736083

>>736081

Sorry for calling you a faggot.

But no, you're wrong. Christians need to be smarter on this matter.

It's so easy, so ridiculously easy, to just go with this "Just obey every law!" stance. It's intellectually lazy.

Banning a healthy medicinal plant is not whatever. IT'S AN INIQUITOUS BAN.

But hey, pharisees are always on the side of power, are they not? Ever heard of swallowing the camel and draining the gnat? That's what you are doing. You are saying that strict obedience to the whims of legislators is more important than preserving our health and dignity.

Seriously, what is it with guys like you? Did you get a vasectomy? Did you ever have a girlfriend? What is this strange fetish of so eagerly submitting to the whims of the State?


8cf12f  No.736084

>>736083

How about you take them?


b79a3c  No.736086

File: de02a9158fc68f8⋯.png (17.05 KB, 600x400, 3:2, chart.4ad314b8ac2e4dc588b7….png)

You CAN NOT, EVER hope to stop ABORTION in this country WITHOUT stopping non-white immigration, especially illegals

More nonwhites means more Democrat bureauceats

MILLIONS OF BABIES WILL CONTINUE TO DIE VIA TYRANNY OF THE STATE

The Christian thing to do is shoot invaders on sight, and deport dependents to Christian missional orphanages in their home countries


fefc91  No.736088

>>736086

Hey

*cia watches through the cam*

Atleast

*FBI phonetaps*

I'm

*prints money out of thin air*

Safe

*SWAT'D without a warrant*

From

*adds chemicals to your water*

The

*CIA trades with the very drug lord you hate*

Immigrants

*economy collapses cause student loan bubble*


8cf12f  No.736089

>>736088

You have to go back, /leftypol/


b79a3c  No.736107

>>736088

Are you implying that controlling immigration requires state overreach in all those areas?


fefc91  No.736124


6402b0  No.736132

File: f284c430e3c739c⋯.jpg (74.53 KB, 414x600, 69:100, 34958323492.jpg)

>>736088

>>736124

>Not a Commie

Then why are you drawing false equivalencies like one? You're trying to shift the discussion from "we must protect our borders" to "there is no reason to fix the current state of affairs when there are other things to be working on".

I get it, Mr. Ulyanov, you have my best interest at heart.


fefc91  No.736138

File: dd1b156e7437add⋯.jpg (207.68 KB, 800x534, 400:267, Kawaiiathan.jpg)

>>736132

I see no need to protect the border, I believe the media blows up the immigration issue to control people's minds, it's just a cia psyop.

Americans forget the fact that they're losing their freedom as the day goes and they're in a huge debt crisis. No I'm not Lenin, I'm a libertarian.


b79a3c  No.736162

>>736124

Is that a yes or no?

Are you arguing that border security requires overreach? Or just that it's our present situation


ba6c87  No.736167

>>736138

If everyone in America adopted libertarianism you would have all the problems we have now. The only difference would be that the corporations and foreign governments puppeteering our state would enslave the people in a more overt fashion. Enlightenment era autism doesn't solve any of the fundamental problems with human nature.


fcb7d4  No.736170

>>735345

>The Migrants are Christian

Find me a video where they pray to Jesus. You can't

>Why not let them?

Because I don't want my sisters raped and my jobs being outsourced.

>What would Jesus do?

Tells them to repent and fix their own damn mess like the adults they are

>>735357

>These are humans but you treat them like vermin invading a house

Oh boy I hope you have fun reading the OT

>There is no compassion in this Christian Board

Says the guy who wants to import rapists and fighting-age males to rape women and children. Look at Europe. And I bet you never let a homeless to stay in your house for even a minute, but you have the audacity to tell us to do so. Get back to /leftypol/

>>735610

>Mexican families cross the border in hope of a better life on the other side

Roaches and mices come to your house and leeches suck your blood in hope of a better life. Why do you keep them out? We only let in those that makes us better

>here are plenty of Brazilians living illegally in the US, making far more money there working construction, driving for Lyft etc. than they did doing more respectable jobs over here.

Maybe if those people actually helped their country instead of coming over here, your country could have been better. But no they all have to serve their material god

>When an illegal immigrant commits actual crimes

They did by coming here illegally. If you disrespect part of the law you disrespect all of it.

>>735611

Lol did you ever put a homeless person in your home? If not then dont preach us about letting in rapefugees

>>735621

>>735624

Finally showing their true colors xD. Nice job preaching to us about acceptance while being racist

>>735650

>The State and its laws are the problem.

Then get rid of it you pussies. That's what the pilgrims did. But you people can never do because all you think about it yourselves

>>735667

>What if

Yeah do like Europe did. Let people in first ask questions later. Look how that turned out to be

>muh America is bad

Tell that to OP and the rest of the illegals who try to cross here illegally please

>Cmon you shouldn't judge people by their skin

But you can judge a tree by its fruits. And from many samples you can form what we call statistics

>>735677

>John 3-16

>Implying that they're believers

Show me a video where they pray to Jesus. You cant.

>>735954

> It would be a sin if he had no other place to say and he asked to pitch a tent on your property for the night to rest and you denied him.

Anon I am hugnry and thirsty. Could you please give me your address and so I can pitch a night there?

>It would not be a sin to prevent the opening of the borders of your country

Then unlock your doors at night then, and let whoever thirsty and hungry come and stay

"Rules for thee but not for me"

>>735972

>welfare is fine

Welfare destroyed the family unit you bugger. Women can now depend on the government and be single moms thanks to the government.

>>736088

Whataboutism


2eba2e  No.736279

>>736170

Chill bro


ed33aa  No.736280

>>735962

So you would potentially get your kids killed to get a green card?


bd3d96  No.736305

>>736067

Heyyyy…. Are you the same Brazilian guy from a month or two ago who argued about illegal downloading and said the guy who thought it was a sin couldn't get his dick as hard as yours could…?

can I have your autograph?




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