Help with refuting Mormon objection to creation ex nihilo.

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Help with refuting Mormon objection to creation ex nihilo. Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 03:26:29 9fb863 No.729987

A Mormon sent me this link when I tried to show him the Shepherd of Hermas proves creation ex nihlio was an early Church belief.

http://scripturalmormonism.blogspot.com/2014/11/did-shepherd-of-hermas-teaching.html

Specifically over the Greek ἐκ τοῦ μὴ ὄντος (from out of no being), does it necessitate creation ex nihilo or simply the ordering of chaos?

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 08:59:51 899e56 No.730057

Because everyone in the early church believe there was a billion of other Gods and we could become gods himself.

Its useless to debate Mormons because if they lose they always claim "MUH feelings".

If the genesis isn't enough to prove them wrong nothing else is.

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 10:40:07 78b3f2 No.730069

>>730057

>Its useless to debate Mormons because if they lose they always claim "MUH feelings".

That burning in the bosom is their covetous lustful heart deceiving them, and God is greater than their hearts.

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 12:37:34 1480fa No.730089

Mormons aside, what's wrong with creation ex nihilo? That's just that God created the world from nothing right? Am I misunderstanding what that means? All my understanding of Latin comes from me being fluent in English.

Genesis

1In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.

2 And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters.

There is no pre-existing chaos, that's the kind of thing you'd find in Greek Mythology. The only thing that is uncreated is God.

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 13:16:59 31d715 No.730095

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>>730089

Nothing is wrong with that. It’s basic doctrine and truth, God is uncreated and create every SINGLE THING. The thing that gets me about Mormons and what I think will get them in the end is how God was created to them which is heresy.

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 13:42:39 7074a1 No.730103

>>730095

You all will have to forgive my ignorance, but what is the flag for the Protestants in the pic?

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 14:23:46 ec2c98 No.730112

ENDLESS

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 15:22:19 43a5e6 No.730117

>>730103

Idk

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 16:44:11 edd939 No.730132

>>730112

CELESTIAL

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 18:15:38 81bada No.730174

>>729987

Theologians have discussions with greek platonists about the concept of nothingness.

But people like him wouldn't accept something 0.00001 picoseconds after the Crucifixion if it went against their position.

As in, all pagans had some concept of initial material chaos that resulted in the world. Like the Big Bang today, they never explained the start of such chaos.

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 18:42:42 ed920a No.730187

Why are you even arguing with a Mormon, much less about this. Mormomism and is history is filled with such ridiculousness this is the last place to start. Start with muh hieroglyphics for example, or the millions of other asinine things that's wrong with Joseph Smith and Mormomism. Who cares about Church Fathers? They believe the apostasy happened with the first apostles, so Church Fathers and the early church is pointless.

Christanon 11/20/18 (Tue) 19:50:42 0fb0c9 No.730213

>>730132

SEX