/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

No. All you need to do is look at the attributes of those gods to see its not the case.

>>729871

No. That's something all religions have, they try to make a semblance of Christianity somehow.

>>729871

No, but I think there are perhaps some revealations in the works such as the Mahabharata.

>>729875

Israelites still became pagans even with YHWH around and they introduced many false traits into him. Who's to say the Indo-Europeans didn't do the same over time, especially as they got farther and farther apart. You know they're probably descendants of Japheth, right?

>>729871

No, if you believe in scripture. You could say all civilizations once knew God since all came from shared ancestors (and I think there's a reason so many cultures have a flood story).. but an actual relationship with God doesn't really start until Abraham. God called him out of Sumeria (which had many gods), and had him create a breakaway civilization…which would eventually fix the world through Jesus.

Legend has it (in Jubilees, I think?) that Abraham's father Terah was a Sumerian priest and made idols. A young Abraham caused a ruckus by destroying the idols and trying to argue that it was all nonsense. It was only later that God called him - and he had nothing to do with the idols Abraham previously destroyed.

>>729871

Yes. God is just so he wouldn't pick only the jews to be saved. I believe the whole "chosen people" meme is the corruption of the alliance that God made with the jews, and they aren't actually chosen at all. They chose themselves so that they have a sense of justification for whatever evil crap they do next.

But by their fruits you'll know them. Jesus gave us the words and faith to defeat evil.

>>729871

It was the Romans who equated Thor with Jupiter. Etymologically Týr (Tiwaz) is the cognate to Dyeus Pter.

No

>>729882

Is there any evidence of monotheism among the PIE?

God has nothing to do with puny pagan idols who couldn't even control their human-like desires.

If any pepole/religion other than the israelites had received at least a partial revelation it would be zoroastrianism, but it's still imperfect.

God chose the israelites because they were the most treacherous and sinful people on Earth afaik so it would show that:

1. Salvation and holiness is a gift from God, not something you can gain through your own actions, strenght and virtues

2. God can bring out holiness in even the most wretched individuals

>>729871

God reveals himself in his own way to everyone.

>>730040

"My people perish for lack of knowledge."

Read the scriptures. Don't make things up based on your feelings. Either that, or stop being a Christian.

>>730099

>My people perish for lack of knowledge

I'm sorry if you're dying.

Whose people are we talking about here?

>>730110

If you're a Christian, and now start saying God is revealing himself to everyone, then I have to wonder why be a Christian at all. "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

>>730040

The label God has been relegated to a massive imaginary friend now instead of the Biblical God and it disturbs me.

>>730111

>no one comes to the Father

Does mean the Father doesn't come to you. What is it with your kind of people and your superiority complex?

>>730114

Depends on your imagination.

>>730111

Fun fact: you can accept Jesus abd still follow advaita vedanta.

And buddhism.

And islam.

>>730127

Careful though. Are you a perrenialist?

>>730127

this is sarcasm, right?

>>730127

>And buddhism.

Doubt

>And islam.

Absolutely not

>>729871

God revealed himself to like, everybody by way of Noah. Everybody pretty much lost this faith of Noah until Abraham was entrusted in keeping it then it was revealed through the incarnation and crucifixion and resurrection.

>>730129

>perrenialist

I don't know what that is, but I seek wisdom in other religions, besides christianity.

>>730133

No.

>>730135

>Doubt

/care

>Absolutely not

'kay

>>730155

I know a few muslims who accept Jesus as a prophet, one of them even said he believed him to be the son of God, but he is afraid of conversion.

>>730160

*with only gentiles being good Christians

ftfy

>>730160

>>730183

Gentiles means nations. Given David's ruddy features and the Spartans being Israelites (Maccabees) and Europeans fulfilling the prophecies of Israel and embracing Christianity I think it's safe to say the Europeans are the modern Israelites. So there's that connection to the Hebrew God. Don't confuse me for CI though. I still believe anyone of any race can become Christian as long as they aren't a heretic. Job whom God loved was an Edomite and God even promised Cain He would look favorably upon him if he did good works.

>>730188

Checkem

>>730188

I think you're pushing too hard on the Spartans being Israelites and implying of taking Job literally.

>>730191

>taking Job literally

what's the alternative? It's a book of prose

>>730191

How so?

“Arius king of the Spartans to Onias the high priest, greeting. It is found in writing concerning the Spartans, and the Jews, that they are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham.”

1 Machabees 12:20-21

How do you interpret Job? Do you think it's a folk story? Not trying to attack your beliefs or anything.

>>730196

>quoting apocrypha

Lol

>>730195

You just answered your own question.

>>730196

Lol. Just realized you implied I put God on the level on an imaginary friend.

Racial faith is bull. It's arrogant, meaningless and destructive.

I don't know about the Spartans and Hebrews being "related" by some document, I doubt it's true, but I really don't even care.

And I interpret Job for what it is, a man in a crisis of faith because of unjust judgement by God himself, drawn by the devil, yet proving the later wrong. I think it's a profound work of theological literature and I couldn't care less if it's fiction or not since it wouldn't lessen its worth either way.

>>730188

Nah sounds like biased haughtiness and pseudohistory on your part and probably another attempt at d&c.

Where are the Indo-Iranian Christians, and why did the entirety of Europe not convert till the high middle ages.

What would people not linguistically related have to do with Israel.

The conversion of gentiles is precisely what the bible speaks about.

>>730206

what do you think prose means?

>>730210

So what you're saying mediteranian languages have common roots?

lol

>>730210

You're closed minded if you assume the bible to be specifically referring to Europeans because it said "ruddy".

That book is known pseud gibberish.

Might as well reject the classification of Indo-European if you believe it.

>>729871

Noah knew God and so did his descendants by tradition. They called him sky father but their understanding of him was corrupted over time and demons replaced it.