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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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418ebe  No.729186

I'll try to make this short because if I gave the long answer you'd pretty much get something longer than my life's story. But to say it in a nut shell: I'm having an existential crisis.

When I was younger and more of a heathen, I attempted suicide with a bottle of Advil and whisky. My roommate found me before I succumbed to the poison I have given myself and rushed me to the hospital. I blacked out for a moment, only to wake up in a hospital bed feeling the illness of my foolish decision. I spent some time at the hospital and started rethinking my life, made some changes, found the strength and moved on; time passed and I left that dark place behind. But times I can't help but look back and consider "Maybe I did die?"

I'm not in a bad spot, actually I've never been better in my entire life. I have more positive out looks and a better sense of health and moral standing. It's just that I have debated my existence and reality for a while now and I think I'm starting to see the stage of the play of my life. Maybe it's paranoia or a possible delusion I am unaware of, but there are slight oddities I have experienced in my life time. Heck, maybe it's just I'm becoming more aware of the evils that plague this earth and comparing it to my own life choices. It's just that I am having doubts that my changes of salvation are far to 'lucky' compared to others who were equally/more fortunate than myself that spiraled into degeneracy. I'm not at all stating a "holier than thou" mentality, but recently I have witnessed evils that others would have just ignored or never have noticed, and I'm starting to wonder if my realization of these evils are meant to be.

First off, I think the current concept of hell might be a bit cliche, even for the devil. Immediate fire and brim stone would be too easy and too straight forward, especially for all eternity, and being how the devil loves his tricks, putting the damned soul in a sense of ease first before masquerading them in a disbelief that there is hope and redemption, only to lead to confusion and distrust not just in themselves but in their concept of reality would be much more painful of the soul and enjoyable for him. I'd assume once insanity hits fully and the soul is completely lost then would be a good time for the pokes and prods of pitchforks and baths of fire.

I remember being told that the devil holds power in the mortal realm, so it makes sense to me for him to imitate his realm to deceive the damned. What better way to misguide the Lord's sheep than to take them away from his lands and place them in a replica of his own?

With Heaven, I don't believe the Lord would deal with such foolishness. I'd image the entrance of would be far more obvious and satisfying. Gradma will be there and cake too.

I doubt that you can give me a solid answer to comfort me but I'm left at wits end here. I am only a mere mortal and my want for understanding overpowers me at times. I keep telling myself to not give up to keep being strong and to perceiver and frankly, that's all I can and will do.

tl;dr: How do I know if I'm not already in hell? What if this reality is a trick by the devil?

>inb4 "silly anon, you'd KNOW when you're in hell"

418ebe  No.729191

This is OP, I'm really sorry for double posting. Please respond to this thread, I already reported for Mod deletion of the duplicate thread. Was worried that I might have pushed a text limit or something, it took a while to post.

MY MISTAKE, FORGIVENESS PLZ


e80290  No.729373

It’s simple. Do you still love God and feel his love coming back to you in a positive way?

Because in Hell, there is no such luxury. The church fathers called Hell an extension of God’s love, but perceived by those within as agonizing torture because of their blindness.


e80290  No.729375

>>729373

Also, Hell isnt somewhere where Satan rules like in a cartoon. Quite the opposite, Satan will be the one who receives the worst pain, for he is the one who hates God the most. Hell belongs to the Lord.


5c5676  No.729376

>>729186

You would have stood before God if you were dead. Repent of your sins and convert if you haven’t so you won’t go to hell when you actually die.


418ebe  No.729413

>>729373

Convincing point, I do love God. More so than I used to and this obedience to him that I feel grows stronger with the more I learn of him. I've even built crosses and prayed to them. I guess in hell there's be some sort of buffer for that kind of act.

>>729375

I wish I could provide source to explain myself a bit more rationally, but I was told that this realm is a realm that satan can gain influence amongst the moral and gain strength in here, maybe he astroprojects himself through others or something, thou now I feel like I'm just making excuses. I guess this idea stemmed from the story of Jesus through the desert and how both God and satan can push their influence upon man. And now that I'm seeing more disciples of satan I'm getting confused between demon and lost soul.

The concept of this mortal realm being the fires of Purgatory has also surfaced in my thoughts. That these internal/external sufferings we face are the fires we must pass to enter Heaven.

But you're right, hell is hell even for satan, that is a fact. I could just be over thinking the negatives I've experienced and foolishly forgot of the pleasures I have had as well.

>>729376

Excellent point, I think I'd remember something like that even in the vaguest recollection.

I think the problem here is that I'm experiencing doubt in the most metaphysical of senses. I, like us all, combat personal demons in which get a habit of overthinking and losing myself within my own thoughts and fears. There are times when I can latch onto a concept that makes the most sense to me due to my own personal experiences and stick with it. It's especially difficult with my solitude and how the only real mortal I can give full trust in is myself. I know I've said I am in a good place but I am in no means settling with that (though I do thank the Lord for my blessings). I understand I still have a long way to go to achieve full acceptance in the eyes of the Lord and by do not plan on giving that up.

Thank you for your advice. when writing the original post I feel I might have been in a darker place than I thought I was. Rationality has come back to me with a good night's rest and I can see now where my paranoid might have bested me.

God bless you all.




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