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Zoroaster? Christanon 07/06/18 (Fri) 19:29:23 38e25f No.671402

I wouldn't go as far as to call him inspired or a prophet but do you think me might've experienced the divine light? There must've been some kind of spark there within him. Certainly the Greeks knew about things like the Logos so it wouldn't be unusual.

Christanon 07/06/18 (Fri) 20:55:51 a03377 No.671447

>Was 30 when he was "called"

>He was coming out of a river (prefiguration opf baptism?) when an angel gave him a revelation

>He went on to preach about the good god and also a wicked god, of good and evil, of truth and the lie

>He spoke of a prophecy of a virgin giving birth to an ultimate saviour

>He spoke of an ultimate judgement of mankind and the overthrow of evil

This might sound generic to us, seeing how it was all fulfilled, but it was obviously incredibly profound to nomads who spend most of their time raiding each other and sacrificing horses to the Sun.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that he was inspired like Ezechiel was, for example, since I think what the angel told him he misunderstood (i.e. making satan an opposite of God), just like how you can find odd, faint parallels in other ancient faiths which have debased the Truth of God (like the Logos which you mentioned).

I would even go so far as to say the Zoroastrian fascination with fire is a corruption of the understanding of the Holy Spirit.

Christanon 07/06/18 (Fri) 20:57:28 96084f No.671450

>>671447

>>He went on to preach about the good god and also a wicked god, of good and evil, of truth and the lie

This mere fact says that he didnt preach the truth. Evil does not exist on his own, there is no "evil god". Dualism is trash

Christanon 07/06/18 (Fri) 21:11:53 a03377 No.671454

>>671450

Well of course he didn't, that's why I'm Christian, not a Zoroastrian.

My point is that the very fact that he articulated that good and evil do exist as concrete phenomena was leaps and bounds above surrounding traditions where things were either clean or unclean or mostly indifferent, where the gods were essentially mercenaries for who was the best speaker or prettiest girl or biggest sacrifice. It's why the Euthyprho dilemma rocked the Greeks so hard, since they couldn't answer it.

Christanon 07/06/18 (Fri) 21:35:56 af655f No.671462

>>671447

>>He spoke of a prophecy of a virgin giving birth to an ultimate saviour

If he was really smart as winnie the pooh couldn't he deduce that from logical principles?

>mankind disobeyed God

>needs a mediator between God and men

>that mediator would be a new kind of human (second Adam)

>there must be a women to be the new even unstained by sin therefore he should be born from a virgin.

Christanon 07/06/18 (Fri) 21:36:26 af655f No.671463

>>671462

*to be the new Eve

Fixed

Christanon 07/06/18 (Fri) 21:48:22 2aedff No.671470

He probably just came into contact with some of the writings of the Old Testament and added his own stuff to it. If he did live around the 6th or 7th century B.C. that is, which I think he did because it would be odd for the entire religion to disappear from history for a thousand or so years then reappear around the time of Cyrus the Great. And the fact that the Avestas are written in a very old language doesn't necessarily prove anything since old languages can exist for centuries in isolated areas long after everyone else stops using them.