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>>664933

O my distant friend,

my brother veiled in anonymity,

I hope that we enter into the sacred place,

that is the mutual love of God

>>664933

Isaiah 17:7-8

At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.

And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.

>>664927

>tfw God is with you

Orthocomfy thread?

>>664927

this is terrifying to me

makes me feel shame and guilt

want to curl up in my bed and curl out of existence sometimes

>>664927

So you are saying at least one person understands me, but saying it with scary semantics?

>>665082

Just remember that with this sight of you, He still invites you to salvation.

>>665103

Is the self evident reality of God scary semantics?

Saying at least one person understands you would neglect the fact that it's God alone who can truly know you.

>>664927

And that's why he avoids talking to most of us directly.

>>665110

>Saying at least one person understands you would neglect the fact that it's God alone who can truly know you.

True, I don't even understand myself most of the time. I am often quite surprised at what my own mind can conjure up.

I hope he doesn't mind while I try and pick up a bit.

>>665111

No He doesnt. Jesus mostly spent time with sinners and convincing them to repent. It is YOU who reject Him and refuse to talk with Him about the issues.

>>664927

Of course He does, how else could He purify it?

>>665082

If God could not see into your heart, then He would not be God.

>>665199

Draw from life and photographs, get used to visualizing 3D objects in your mind and what people look like, and practice every single day. There are rules of proportions too, like the human head is 5 eyes wide. The hardest part is the play of light: shading, tinting. But it's mostly doing it over and over that helps you improve.

Polite sage for off-topic.

>>665199

>how to get good at art/drawing?

Draw what you see, not what you know.

Instead of drawing an eye, draw the shapes that make up an eye as the shapes have to be.

If you draw "an eye" then you easily fall into the trap of symbol drawing.

Always draw what you see.

>>665199

Not to be that guy, but practice! Years of practice can dramatically improve anyone's artistic abilities

>>665282

>Instead of drawing an eye, draw the shapes that make up an eye as the shapes have to be.

t. degenerate modern """artist"""

>>664948

>the same heresy over and over again

Research on the iconoclasm heresy, it's already adressed.

>>665369

>>665326

A modern artist would just slap down a "symbol" and call it a day.

Drawing what you see when drawing from life is important.

Your brain will make you take shortcuts otherwise.

I mean, check this out.

:-)

That's a sideways smiling face to many brains.

This is literally enough for many brains to convey a smiling face.

A total symbol.

>>664927

But there is only filth there.

>>665758

Is there a name for this style in art and is it only limited to those who are skilled? I can see very beautiful potential out of this. I've seen something similar to it when I was younger but some of the finer explanations were too difficult to understand.. If I can craft this level of art with time I will use it to please God.

>>665758

Basically it's the classical style of art education that has been utilized since the days of masters such as Michaelangelo and Leonardo. Those who practice it tend to refer to it as Realism, or Classical Realism, or something else along those lines. Modernists tend to refer to it pejoratively as the "Academic Style"; particularly the work of the late 1800s to early 1900s of artists such as William-Adolphe Bouguereau and Lawrence Alma-Tadema. Sadly, for the most part, this type of training it is virtually absent from most modern art schools. Your best bet is to track down an Atelier or Living Master near you:

https://www.artrenewal.org/Atelier/Search

This site in general is a fantastic resource for what you're looking for:

https://www.artrenewal.org

Also, while pricey, this can be of help if you wish to train on your own, and is also literally where some of the pics I posted come from:

https://www.amazon.com/Charles-Bargue-Drawing-Gerald-Ackerman/dp/2867702038

>is it only limited to those who are skilled?

First off I don't know your level of talent, and you may not know until you try. Nevertheless, I will level with you: yes there is such a thing as talent. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional and/or naive. You may encounter gifted people who were clearly touched by God with a penchant for this craft who will accomplish more in 2 or 4 hours of practice, than you do in 8. That is just a cold hard reality of life.

HOWEVER. There is also such a thing as hard work and guts. Drawing and art craft IS a skill that can be LEARNED and TRAINED and IMPROVED with PRACTICE, just like a musical instrument. A low talent individual with a die-hard work ethic can overcome a lazy individual who coasts on talent alone (the absolute best of the best are obviously the best of both worlds.) What it all boils down to is one, simple, question:

How bad do you want it?

You want it?

Is God telling you to go get it?

Then go get it.

Here's a youtube channel that can also possibly help you out:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7nqKTkW-PUmcTk_vp2yvtQ

And once again, do not neglect construction/constructive anatomy if you want to go beyond being dependent on references/models. Even the Atelier on the channel I just linked makes use of one of these construction traditions: The Reilly Method:

https://youtu.be/hXidFJ2zUME

>>665866

Meant to link to You: >>665778

My bad.

>>665778

>>665866

>>665867

One more thing:

Even if due to cost or location or other circumstances, you can't get involved in Atelier training yet. Do not despair. Practice on your own. Draw, draw, draw everyday. Start Training yourself with one of these books initially if you are a complete noob to drawing:

https://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Right-Side-Brain-Definitive/dp/1585429201/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529972310&sr=1-1&keywords=drawing+on+the+right+side+of+the+brain

https://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Right-Side-Brain-Workbook/dp/1585429228/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529972310&sr=1-3&keywords=drawing+on+the+right+side+of+the+brain

https://www.amazon.com/Keys-Drawing-Bert-Dodson/dp/0891343377/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529972359&sr=1-1&keywords=keys+to+drawing

Learn construction through books like these:

https://www.amazon.com/Fun-Pencil-Everybody-Easily-Learn/dp/0857687603/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529972417&sr=1-1&keywords=fun+with+a+pencil

https://www.amazon.com/Figure-Drawing-Invention-Michael-Hampton/dp/0615272819/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529972455&sr=1-1&keywords=figure+drawing+design+and+invention

https://www.amazon.com/Bridgmans-Complete-Guide-Drawing-Life/dp/1454926538/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529972490&sr=1-1&keywords=Bridgeman

Start there. There's far too many resources to list.

Hang out at an art board on 8chan like >>>/loomis/ and go through their hub: https://8ch.net/loomis/hub.html and other sites in the 8chan art ring:

>>>/art/

>>>/ani/

Whatever it takes, just do it! Make art, period!