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To rephrase my question a bit, would me becoming a faithful Presbyterian that genuinely perseveres in faith and due to irresistible grace and can't leave it mean I'm 'possibly' one of the supposed elect?

>>651503

>would me becoming a faithful Presbyterian

Being a faithful Presbyterian or a faithful Reformed Baptist isn't what helps you persevere in faith. God's grace through the faithful following Christ alone is what keeps you persevering.

>"possibly"

What's the deal with non-Calvinists and always being concerned with uncertainty and possibility? Repent (if you haven't done so), believe (if you haven't done so), and the the witness of the Holy Spirit will show that you are a believer.

>>651505

Yeah, but if you so much as scratch your nose wrong, your elect status will be removed and they'll burn you at the stake or drive you out of the community or whatever. Seriously, don't even sleep the wrong way or wear the wrong shoes. The conditions for being "Elect" are so strict that, in the end, nobody is Elect.

>>651508

>What's the deal with non-Calvinists and always being concerned with uncertainty and possibility?

It's been the opposite from my experience. The hardcore Calvinists are doubt and worrying about whether they might recant everything on their deathbed because it's all beyond their control.

And, they think, it might turn out they were just a tool to that end.

>>651588

>The hardcore Calvinists are doubt and worrying about whether they might recant everything on their deathbed because it's all beyond their control.

Funny because I've never even once actually seen that, just non-Calvinists claiming it

>>651505

This question makes no sense and seemingly has nothing to do with the OP. Unconditional Election is just the idea that God chooses who will ultimately be saved based on nothing but His own good pleasure, that is, not based on them fulfilling a condition like autonomously choosing to believe in Him or to do good works.

I got my hands on this bitch

Impressed with me, all of these insects

Act as if I never meant to

I never meant to be soft

I sent you texts then it filled you with those

And it must bass

>>651547

What are you talking about? If actual hyper-Calvinists believe that it's still a lot different from Calvinist doctrine, you cant lose your salvation.

>>651602

It was predestined to happen

>>651604

Year of the Snitch when

>>651753

I just did a literal spit take.

>>651588

Calvinists can be as convinced as they want, but if they're wrong, it doesn't matter. Delusion never saved anyone.

>>651503

What is happening in that picture?

>>652381

Art.

>>652381

More than what a fairy would make you think is going on

>>652437

I could stand about eight seconds of that before turning it off. Thanks for the answer though.

I do wonder how many people on /christian/ have read any of Calvin's works.