What's the deal with this guy?

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What's the deal with this guy? Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 04:02:39 d544da No.605167

Stumbled on this today. Apparently Washington attended services but didn't commune. His wife did. I know he was a mason, what's the deal with this guy?

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 04:16:26 814080 No.605172

Even though he had the morals and integrity of a pious Christian man, Washington sadly fell for the Deism meme.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 04:29:18 017754 No.605180

>>605167

Ignatius says you can tell who the Gnostics are by who doesn't take the Eucharist. This is a trend that is continued in the dualism of low church Protestants today, ESPECIALLY Evangelicals (US definition). When we decide that God is "too big to be found in physical forms," we run into a lot of problems.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 05:24:22 ac2aa2 No.605203

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Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 05:26:54 78e651 No.605204

>>605180

What the hell are you talking about?

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 05:48:34 344eb4 No.605212

>>605204

>>605180

he's making a comparison to low church protestants aversion to sacraments with gnostic dualism. It is a comparison that is accurate imo.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 06:19:56 70176a No.605218

>>605180

All protestants I know of take communion.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 06:46:42 4ac196 No.605222

>>605180

You should read Tertullian. His writings against the Gnostics is uncanny in how the arguments he cites them using just sound like modern low-church protestants. Including fun things like not believing in transubstantiation and refusing to believe in confession.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 06:59:39 3d4917 No.605224

>>605167

what about him

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 07:06:48 a0896e No.605227

>>605222

Didn't Tertullian also say that Jesus wasn't fully God?

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 07:26:19 a711e8 No.605234

>>605167

Are we sure this isn't fraudulent?

>>605172

Washington was definitely a Christian, he didn't even tolerate swearing in the Continental Army because he felt it was offensive to God, and that he was dependent on God for victory.

>>605227

No. Against Praxeas is a very Trinitarian book, and in it Tertullian argues against the Modalists that their prooftexts show only that Jesus only proove that He is God, not that He is the Father.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 11:40:26 0b8545 No.605267

>>605234

>Washington was definitely a Christian

He was a non-Trinitarian, unfortunately.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 12:55:58 d544da No.605289

>>605234

Yes. It's from the letters of the first presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church.

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 16:23:55 a711e8 No.605352

>>605267

There is no evidence of this

Christanon 02/14/18 (Wed) 16:37:48 3dbd9a No.605356

>>605167

Check these out. They're recent. From just a few days ago.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?440587-6/bible-founding-american-constitutional-republic

https://www.c-span.org/video/?440587-7/bible-american-revolution

https://www.c-span.org/video/?440587-4/bible-founding-america-roundtable

Christanon 02/15/18 (Thu) 15:57:27 a9729f No.605784

>>605167

From what i’ve Gathered he was a theist. He definitely beloved in God and that God helped him win the revolution, but to what extent he was a Christian is unknown.

Christanon 03/11/18 (Sun) 09:09:06 e32e5e No.616646

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>>605180

Rick Wiles also mentions how the practice of taking communion without a physical bread and wine (or wine substitute) that is sometimes practiced in Protestant churches originated from Gnosticism. He quotes one of the writings of the Saints (maybe St. Irenaeus?) but I can't recall from the top of my head.

Christanon 03/11/18 (Sun) 13:00:38 4c01c1 No.616691

>>605222

Whoa, whoa, really? Give me a quote and sauce. I want to believe.

Christanon 03/11/18 (Sun) 13:04:10 6aabca No.616692

>>616691

I second this.

Christanon 03/11/18 (Sun) 13:27:01 42ce3d No.616697

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>>605222

>You should read Tertullian. His writings against the Gnostics is uncanny in how the arguments he cites them using just sound like modern low-church protestants.

I think you just accidentally acknowledged that the trail of blood meme is correct.

Christanon 03/11/18 (Sun) 13:51:12 9ddc1b No.616705

>>616646

And this guy is some sort of expert, kek.

Christanon 03/11/18 (Sun) 17:15:38 f6af38 No.616750

>>605167

He was a ginger. You know how that goes.