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Your body is a temple, so going to the gym to get/stay fit is fine.

Just dont let it make you too prideful, as some are prone to do

>>591736

1 Timothy 4:8

For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.

You should definitely take care of the vessel that God created for you, but remember that it's inherently corrupt and will one day whither as the grass. Don't let the way you look be an occasion for pride.

Would you consider buying some home gym equipment to avoid the gym hussies?

>>591738

Thank you

>>591740

Sadly i've got no money to buy home gym equipment.

>>591749

>poorfag

Calisthenics. There are also weights that accept dirt for resistance and tons of used fitness stuff on craigslist. Stop making excuses.

>>591736

>because I've seen how some people go to the gym to get "gains"

That's not a sin.

>>591736

It really depends on why you're doing it. If it's for vanity or pride, then don't bother. The best way to exercise is to walk around the neighborhood spreading the Gospel to all who will listen. You could also take up a physical hobby like gardening.

The way I think about it is every time I go to the gym and workout I do a little prayer to God. I pray giving thanks for being able bodied, able to workout etc, and give all glory, health benefits, and simple joy of working out to Him. Attributing it all to him and all the benefits and glory so to speak that come alongside it.

But yeah pride can be an issue. Or particularly vanity. Just be aware of it, in the same fashion you may find yourself day dreaming about something sexual and snap out of it as you realize what you're doing. If you see yourself posing and what not in a mirror. Realize what you're doing, pray forgiveness and avoid it in the future.

All in all I recommend going to the gym anon. God bless.

>>591799

>If you see yourself posing and what not in a mirror.

It's worth to note there is a difference between pride and vanity - thinking you are better, wanting honours and recognition, etc. - and harmless enjoyment of the aesthetics that your body has.

>in a certain way they commit idolatry for their own bodies

No, because they don't worship their bodies as if their bodies were God. That is nonsense.

Nothing wrong with being fit. There is something wrong with making an idol out of your body, neglecting spiritual matters cause you're obsessed with physical gains, vainly chasing after getting 'mires' from gym thots, or worse, bros (/fit/ is notoriously homoerotic). I'd say if you are spending more than a total of three hours a week at the gym you are going overboard.

>>591884

I also disagree with people saying every Christian should lift. That is unbiblical. You shouldn't be a glutton but as long as you can be productive and are healthy that is good enough for God.

>>591905

>I also disagree with people saying every Christian should lift.

christian men should lift or exercise somehow, why wouldn't they? It improves health, your mood, relieves stress, makes you stronger so you can protect yourself and others…

Unless you work 12hours a day and have too many responsibilities it shouldn't be hard to exercise/lift

Genesis 1:27

Being fat/out of shape insults God himself.

>>591903

>I'd say if you are spending more than a total of three hours a week at the gym you are going overboard.

T. Guy who doesn't lift.

I spend over 2 hours at the gym every time I go which is about 5 times per week.

>>591903

> if you are spending more than a total of three hours a week at the gym you are going overboard.

3 is like the bare minimum, very bare minimum. If you enjoy lifting and want to make better progress its hard to only do the "bare minimum"

>>591916

>>591917

This is my point, if you are spending that much time on it, it's just vanity. You definitely don't need to put in that much time lifting to have enough functional strength for every day life, to attract women, to defend yourself from attackers, to be healthy (being strong and big is not necessarily equivalent to being healthy, in terms of longevity/disease resistance). You are just stroking your ego, using time that would be better spent praying, meditating, reading scripture, helping at church, volunteering, etc.

>>591923

>3 hours a week is vanity

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't gain anything if you did less than that, making the exercise pretty much a moot point.

>>591941

Reading comprehension.. I said MORE than that would be vanity (different IP, still me). And what exactly are you talking about gaining? Even moderate exercise like jogging is good for your heart. I would be interested to hear if there is any evidence that hardcore bodybuilders live longer or are less prone to disease than people who do moderate light exercise like jogging. Somehow I doubt it. So what are you gaining by working out more than a few hours a week or so? Size? Strength? For what functional purpose? It's vanity.

>>591974

The functional purpose is being attractive enough to find a wife. Women aren't impressed by how long you can run for. They're impressed by your physique.

>>591974

> Size? Strength? For what functional purpose? It's vanity.

Vanity doesn't come from strength, size, beauty or health, or any objective factor in your body . It comes from your own pride about yourself and your own desire to belittle others or put them down using your status.

Think about prayer: a person can pray for 3 hours at home and not do it in vanity, or he can pray for 3minutes in public and be totally vain about it. Same goes for lifting or anything. Its not the thing itself, its how you relate to it that makes you vain.

So your fear that lifting more than 3hours per week "is vanity" is totally misplaced. It doesn't work like that.

>id be interested to hear if there is any evidence that hardcore bodybuilders live longer or are less prone to disease than people who do moderate light

doubtful because bodybuilding at the "hardcore" level is extreme and requires sacrifice.

But studies show that heavy lifting itself is extremely beneficial for ligament, bone, and muscular longevity, so you don't become frail and prone to injuries when you are older. Yes heavy lifting, not "light" exercise. Tons of studies on it, if you just google.

3 hours per week is a minimum, it really is only effective if your sessions are extremely intense.

>>591976

Funny you should say that because /fit/ always mocks the idea of

>lifting for women

Honestly though, even minimal exercise will put you above the average guy in terms of physique since most guys don't lift at all. And look at all the autists on /fit/ who devote their entire lives to lifting but can only manage a "Y..you too" when a woman tries to interact with them. Also look at how /fit/ mocks the same sorts of physiques women go gaga over (ottermode/Ryan Gosling types). They have severe body dysmorphia and a lot of them obsess over getting swole without devoting any time to other forms of self-improvement.

>>591983

I don't think being slightly above average will cut it since men tend to be disposable and your average woman is getting asked out on dates probably a few times per month by different guys. That said, the /fit/ mentality is definitely broken, but I think that mostly comes from being the kind of person who hangs out on a chan anyway.

>>591991

Any girl who is "dating" (read: fucking) multiple guys every month is not wife material anyway. And while everyone wants an attractive spouse, a good Christian woman will probably not be superficial enough to demand you be some huge freak; she will be more concerned with your integrity, values, wisdom, faith, etc.

>>591749

A home gym with bench, rack, bar, weights, and a bonus curl bar (don't use lol) cost me 290 US off craigslist and an extra ten dollars to borrow a friend's car.

You can do it.

https://www.artofmanliness.com/2016/09/12/when-christianity-was-muscular/

>>591736

>what is your opinion on physical exercise? Should a Christian do Physical Exercise, e.g going to the gym.

Yes, if he?she has the time to go, the health levels to perform exercise and after he?she has fulfilled the duties of the day (prayer and work).

>>591736

Physical exercise promotes physical as well as mental health. There is a toxic gym culture that includes idolatry, self-obsessiveness etc. but that shouldn't stop you fueling and sculpturing the body that is Gods gift to you, just as you don't quit your studies just bc there are hedonistic careerists in your class.

>>591941

You're definitely no expert.

>>592027

So was He lying when He said fornicators will not inherit the Kingdom?

Dating without sex is called courtship.

>>592027

>>591995

>>592136

Brothers, it is simple: take up the manly art of boxing. You will learn how to defend your family AND naturally get fit in a non-vane way. Also it's immense fun and good sport!

THAT will set you above most men you meet because no matter how "swole" a man is, 90-95% of males do not know how to fight at all.

What does God think of steroids?

>>597775

I assume you mean for abuse, not prescribed by a doctor.

>Giving money to a drug pusher who knowingly cuts the lives of young men

>So you can do something that raises the risk of medical issues and causes psychological effects which will likely cause pain to those around you and lead to sin

>In the overwhelming majority of cases to accomplish something that you could have gotten through years of hard work, while enhancing your mind in the process

There's no need for it. The real world is not a bodybuilding competition and you'll find that a few years of strict training will lead to roughly the same level of admiration from people outside of the niche world of bodybuilding, considering the normal perception tends to group men who reach otter mode and above together visually as muscular people right up until the point where the benefit to attractiveness tapers off.

I'd imagine one could use steroids with holiness provided they could play Russian roulette with holiness, considering both carry the same risks.

>>592243

Boxing without lifting is dumb. Strength matters, size matters.

Everyman should be strong as fuck and know how to fight.

>>597954

How do I enter a gym? Who do I talk to about losing weight there?

You should exercise, it's good for your body and your mind, and that's important. Just avoid bodylatry, which a lot of people fall for.

>>598107

>How do I enter a gym?

walk in , ask for a trial run and what a membership costs

>Who do I talk to about losing weight there?

/fit/

4ch

read the sticky, lurk and read

>>597954

Aight is it possible for someone to gain (explosive) muscle power by just doing calisthenics at home?

>>598138

I read that as Cathelisthenics.

That would've been a great pun.

Polite sage.

>>598138

Yes. The best thing about calisthenics is that you can adjust the intensity by simply doing the exercises more explosively or shift your position so that you pull more of your bodyweight.