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>>577103

Maybe stop being so thirsty?

>>577105

They are more thristy than me. That's the problem. The more modern the women, the more spiritually destructive they are

>>577103

Avert your eyes when they pass by. Just act like they don't exist.

>>577111

It's I've been non ironically doing so far.

I haven't had a single positive experience so far. They just want sex and the pill, and are completly clueless in managing emotions of a potential male partner.

Everytime they do it's a gigantic trainwreck. Modern women either are luciferian themselves or have been taken as hostages to serve such a force. Or a bit of both. I non ironically start to believe this.

>Luciferian

/fringe/ is that you?

>>577115

Is the presence of Satanism an anti-Christian idea? Enlighten me?

I'm asian and considering converting to Christianity (Catholicism) and while I think maybe my mom's generation had some good values, and she passed some over to me (mostly just superficial things like cooking) overall I much prefer the traditional Catholic culture for girls to act, instead of the modern culture especially in asian communities which has been getting increasingly hoe-ish. It's sort of what attracted me, at first anyways.

>>577116

>That quick switch form Luciferian to Satanism

Good job.

In case you don't know ever since Jesus Christ died, "Lucifer" or "The morning star" is God, not Satan. Good job.

>>577117

Sorry I shouldn't have used the flag yet I guess in hindsight.

>>577117

>>577119

This "modernity" is starting to flow everywhere.

No surprise people either don't want to marry or can't stand marriage, leading to fertility crisis.

Who honestly wants to spend his life protecting some skank who slept with almost his childhood friends? It's doable but highly depresssive.

I non ironically believe some satanism force is making things even worse.

>>577114

So modern atheistic women are just as devoid of morals as modern atheistic men. Does this surprise you? Have you noticed that there are just as many devout female Christians in the world as devout male Christians?

Time and time again when this issue is brought up, I feel the need to point out that this is not a problem with women, but a problem with the general lack of a moral compass which is shared by both sexes in the modern world. The reason women are constantly talked about is because the people posting this stuff are young men who have just felt a surge in need to find a prospective wife and have taken a quick look around them and seen that the vast majority of women they encounter have no faith and no morals. They don't bother paying attention to the equally faithless and amoral men because they aren't looking to create a relationship with a man. They also don't bother considering the notion that these women are encouraged to act promiscuously by the equally promiscuous men they surround themselves with, who reward their immoral behaviour with attention and physical pleasure. If men were, by and large, has significantly better morals than women, then women would find no outlet for their immorality.

Talking about women is a red herring. Talk about the general decline of morals amongst both men and women instead.

>>577118

So Lucifer from Isaiah 14 and the Day Star from 2 Pet 1 are just references to Christ pre-incarnation and post resurrection respectively? A little confused by what you're saying

>>577121

Traditionally. and worldwide. It's universal. The first gateway to sex is always women.

The first one to be shamed is the female, even if both are shamed (shotgun marriages or even honor killings for males).

Now I won't discuss fairness in this, but it's the oldest and most recurrent wisdom around.

If we have reached a point where it's males who have to teach females to not sell their body to attention, then we've hit rock bottom.

Educated Prostitutes are dumb because they sell their money for a huge amount of cash? Well modern women sell their body and dignity for a bit of male attention.

Which one of them is more depressive? Easy to spot which one of them is more honest at least.

>>577127

The obligations for men and women under the moral law in this sphere are the same. This doesn't mean men and women are the same, but what it does mean is that the differentiation you are trying to make is faulty because it is based on something other than the moral law (a clear example of this faulty reasoning is the 'lock and key' analogy - you can use this to create a normative distinction between the sexual behaviour of men and women, but such a distinction is irrelevant to the moral law in the first place, so what is the aim of the exercise?)

>>577120

Yeah… well in asian culture in general lots of people have gone full hoe glorification and forgotten about even the ideas of chastity which used to be prevalent. The issue is that most of the religious traditions doesn't seem to be strong enough to hold anyone down (not like it's super worked in the west either, but I admire the resurgence of traditional Catholic amongst especially in the midst of the craziness that is the West. And yeah birthrates, tell me about it. My home country is suffering big time from it, but I guess it's not that off from a lot of Western European countries either.

>>577126

This mentality is pretty prevalent (in my experience) in asian culture too, and it grosses me out. i.e even previously somewhat traditional mom's fine with their daughters hoe-ing out and getting a white husband. I'm a second generation immigrant, but I wish that there was a rise of Christianity/Catholicism in my home country, like what's going on in Korea or to a lesser extent, China. Though it's probably superficial i'm a bit concerned if I convert, when I get married I'll have to fall into stereotypes.

Also thanks for your prayers!

>>577126

also that pic is hella cute :3

>>577130

There's no lock and key analogy.

Simply put, the ones who want to have a kid is typically the female. To the point husbands end up feeling jealous of the kid.

The one who can last the longer unmarried and yet fertile is the husband.

Typically men tend to be more promiscuous than women because men are much more visual than women. So it's simple to know how to prevent men from going ooga booga: Have a culture that prevents nudity and where women don't flash all the time the body parts that activate male sexuality.

Both christians and muslims always knew this.

But you are pushing for a dangerous medicine, possibly satanic aswell. Egalitarianism, in this form sexual Egalitarianism, will NOT solve us the problems brought to us by modern egalitarianism.

As for your point, simply males have more outlets for loneliness than females. There's the old joke a male likes a car with problems in its engine to have an excuse to stay time away from the wife and family.

>>577133

I could've written that.

I'm catholic by family and tradition, but I haven't got the chrism yet.

I have a few doubts I want cleared first. But I fit so poorly in modern world I think it wouldn't be a bad lifestyle to go full Christian.

Would have the bonus to give modernity the middle finger.

>>577134

You are deliberately misreading what I am saying. I did not say that you made a 'lock and key' analogy. I merely said that you are making the same sort of mistake as is made in the 'lock and key' analogy. I am also not pushing any sort of 'sexual egalitarianism.' I am simply saying that the Christian law places the same obligations on men and women, for example, not to have sex outside of lifelong marriage, not to commit acts of lust, not to pursue physical pleasure for its own sake, to commit to another person and form a true bond of love, etc. None of this assumes or requires that men and women are the same or think in the same ways.

If you think this is 'dangerous egalitarianism' then perhaps Sunni Islam is a more suitable religion for you.

>>577137

>I am simply saying that the Christian law places the same obligations on men and women

Christianism has no "Shariah" equivalent. There's simply the consensus reached by the local Priests and Parishes, and the upper Bishops, Cardinals, and so on.

Old Testament got dissolved by Jesus, in case you forgot.

Christianity was never about equality between male and female in anyway.

Women came from a male's rib.

Women cannot be Priest.

Your reading of the Bible is extremely modernized.

Anyway, Biology and Nature don't take male and female in your Egalitarian way: the one who gets pregnant and alone as a risk is the female (or as modernity solves it, with another visit to abortion clinic), the male typically had the chance to run away or simply have several bastard children.

Women also a higher chance of contracting HIV.

Of course all of those male co opt out options are trash, but the one at most risk from sexual activity have always been women, and still are.

I don't know why you are recommending Sunni Islam on Christian?

The one evoking a "christian law" parallel to "Shariah" is you, not me.

Christianism has no Shariah parallel.

>>577127

>If we have reached a point where it's males who have to teach females to not sell their body to attention

Actually, it's a traditional belief that women should be married off before they let their libido go rampant.

>>577139

>Christianism has no "Shariah" equivalent. There's simply the consensus reached by the local Priests and Parishes, and the upper Bishops, Cardinals, and so on.

Doesn't the Catholic Church have the magisterium?

>>577141

Not an equivalent. Shariah comes from a Book that's meant to have been written *literally* by God, the Quran.

Anyway, offering Egalitarianism, a modern concept, as the solution for the cancers of modernity is Tautological at best.

As this one understands..

>>577140

>>577103

This is some of the saddest shit I've ever read on this board. If you're using your religion to get a qt3.14, then you have no business being religious.

>>577143

?? I was refering to modern women, not religious women.

Religious women are not modern women.

>>577145

Then what's the point of this thread? 'Modern women' are lost sheep - we all know this. What discussion are you trying to have?

>>577147

>How can one deal with modern women and follow scripture? How to use the scripture to be protected from the modern women?

>>577150

I guess I'll take ecclesiastes and ben sira for this.

Any recommended books?

>>577122

Here, let me write it again:

During the Old Testament, the Morning Star is Satan.

In the New Testament, the Morning Star is Jesus Christ.

>>577143

Nothing wrong with being religious and having a religious woman as your wife. I would rather have a Christian wife than a 'modern woman'.

>>577142

Sharia comes mainly from tens of thousands of apocryphal decrees that were recorded by the absolute dog’s breakfast that is the ahadith. It’s honestly hard to tell whether or not the Talmud is worse, "Rabbi Schlomo says that it doesn’t count if she’s younger than three because her hymen will grow back. Rabbi Shmuel dissents, saying the age should be 1" or "Abdul told me Mohammed told Abu Bakr told Ali told Ahmed told Mahmed told him that Mohammed wipes his ass with the reeds down at this river"

Finnish GF is the best in that image.

>>577121

Men are having less sex than ever. Women are having more sex than ever. Just with a minority of men. Women have the pill. Women have abortion. No one forces these on women. You're right that morality among men has also plummeted, but women are immoral in a unique way and they are responsible for their own immorality. Men have failed in their role as spiritual leaders, but women are in revolt against men.

>>577117

>increasingly hoeish

Ha, funny choice of words… Why are Asians now copying blacks with all the cringe shit. I know wiggers are a thing, but I put it down to white guilt. But watching asians go from queit and Confucian, to slam poetry and materialism is fascinating in a fucked up way. I expected older generations to hate anyone who acted like that and keep family in line, tiger moms and all that.

>>577186

Because Asians are conformists.

>>577164

Yep. Males have no birth control. This makes males more at pregnancy risk (sounds weird but true) from sex than women.

A male cannot abort. A woman can.

I just don't know how those women face life when they reach their 30s. Do they honestly expect to live a married life, or do they just hire male companions..

Do they seriously expect to be in their mid 30s and keep taking selfies at the club forever?

Females suffer harder from peer pressure than men. Look for a individualistic girl, I know I did the correct choice. My soon to be wife was kind of a tomboy who spend more time playing with boys than girls.

If someone needs more than their faith to walk this life, they ain't worth to march along with you.

>>577191

so in the end, the uncorrupted ones are those with less influence from modern women.

like poetry. you can't escape this.

>>577195

stop with subtle egalitarianisms please

we've had enough egalitarian modernism for several lifetimes.

>>577189

>Do they seriously expect to be in their mid 30s and keep taking selfies at the club forever?

Yes. They are that delusional. Part of the problem is that women drank the feminist kool-aid of the early XX century. In this time, men started to marry younger to younger girls. Harlots hated this, since they lost costumers. Feminists pushed the age of consent (they actually wanted it to be 21) and took many girls out of marriage, while at the same time pushing older women to try and compete with younger ones.

This is the reason why females today shave their legs, arms and pubic hair, because they want to look like pre-pubescent girls. They are unknowingly competing with children to get the attention of men thanks to the feminist propaganda of the early XX century.

>>577196

Your religion is built around worshipping mirror narcissists such as every male in the line of Abraham. Funny that you would kill Jesus again even today. In every age the deeds of men remain the same.

>>577195

>no one forces these on women

>except that

>men are having less sex than ever

I don't see the correlation.

>women have failed in their role as spiritual leaders

Women aren't spiritual leaders.

>but men are in open revolt against women

Women revolted against men, and then a small portion of men started to revolt against the revolt of women.

>Feminism is spiritual antichristianity and is carried by misogynist men

Feminism is born from Christ hating Marxist.

>It is to regard women as Jesus

No.

>so as to do unto them as they've done unto us

There are three options: accept and forgive unconditionally forever, accept and forgive and punish those who transgress, or reject those who've done us harm.

>>577196

>the uncorrupted ones are those with less influence from modern women.

Exactly. My girlfriend was sexually abused by her mother, so she started to dislike females. This made her into an individual who doesn't have the female subculture in her mind. Not saying all women are bad, but their own subculture make them like that, just like machismo culture creates social failures out of men.

>>577197

>In this time, men started to marry younger to younger girls. Harlots hated this, since they lost costumers. Feminists pushed the age of consent (they actually wanted it to be 21) and took many girls out of marriage, while at the same time pushing older women to try and compete with younger ones.

I find this utterly enranging and satanic.

>>577199

>the egalitarian poster was actually anti-christian

everysingletime

>>577200

human nature is closer to 3rd option, 2nd option is a fantasy, given only shitlords judge harlots, 1st one is horrible, because it would mean that no one can sin, except modern women, who can do late term abortions forever but doesn't count as sin because forgiven

>>577201

well thanks for your words. I'll have to craft some survival strategy out of this.

>>577197

Bullshit.

AoC was created and pushed by the likes of the Salvation Army. This was because human trafficking was going on, with British girls being sold into continental Europe. The idea was to give them a chance at an education to protect them.

Sorry, but AoC was not some feminist conspiracy, and now we see brain development and it's more justified.

For the record, prostitutes hated sluts and casual sex culture. It cut into their bottom line.

>>577205

>even prostitutes hate casual sex culture

fate has a sense of humour I can accept that much

>>577203

>human nature is closer to 3rd option

It's in human nature to do whatever pleases us most, as in reject God and sin, so I think the second option is best. We can't reject every single woman who has done humanity wrong. Not if we want to survive as nations.

>>577203

>I find this utterly enranging and satanic

Yeah, this also creates a modern world in which older women give birth to children, resulting in higher cases of autism and other mental/physical problems.

Think about it. Our Holy Lady gave birth to our Saviour when she was 14/16. Women today are waiting twice or more that time to give birth.

>>577209

whatever. just don't expect many males to "volunteer" to marry some women in her 30s angry that she isn't take selfies at the club anymore after marriage.

>>577213

kinda depressing. the only light in this is that is truly shows that no matter how rational the attempt a society makes to apostesize to atheism, it always trainwrecks.

no exceptions.

>>577200

>done us harm

>us

That's fucking microscopic. Us.

>single mother households creating mental instability

>abortion is widespread

>disease growing resistance to antibiotics

>low birth rate fucking up civilizations

>attack on morality

Huge damage.

Oh and

>They only change when it stops being convenient for them

There is only one option. Personal excommunication. Do not associate with them beyond obligations like work.

Your forgiveness and love has one huge issue. If you go down that path, they will have their cake and eat it. You reward them.

Lots of sluts imagine they will "experiment" and enjoy themselves, then settle down with Prince Charming (Mr 267). They think they can have both the family and the party life. Hedonists can hand them the latter, but not the former. Only conservatives and traditionalists can do that.

>>577214

Older generations are corrupted, but they're hardly worth any attention. A nation is it's children. There's still plenty of children.

>>577103

>tfw no gf thread #20,102

God damn you Christians are pathetic.

>>577158

Lucifer in English means "shining one," and is not to be confused with the Latin word. Anyone who substitutes "morning star" (or day star) into Isaiah 14:12 is literally a satanic translation. Protip for you.

>>577209

>nations

Have zero value if their survival comes at the cost of culture, values and beliefs. Hooray you survived, how's that life now? Look at the west post ww2. We won, yet everyone is owned by the banks and corporations and society has no values beyond being cattle for them. Remember you need to buy a new X to be happy. If that fails try sex, but it's competitive so buy Y and Z to give you an edge.

>>577219

Actually, it's closer to being puzzled of destructive impulses modern women they truly are a lost bunch

OP didn't cover religious women.

>>577224

>Have zero value if their survival comes at the cost of culture, values and beliefs

So accept destruction for what benefit? God told us to multiply, but He also surely knew that we'd devolve into sin. A city saved for the 10 righteous.

>>577225

Nope. Look at the catalog. This place has rapidly become /christr9k/. It's fucking pathetic.

>>577203

>>the egalitarian poster was actually anti-christian

>everysingletime

You really can't deny a patriarchy wherein every male is a mirror narcissists due to their circumcision covenant is virtually only the will of the women. It follows that the spiritual failure is of the women who failed to maintain the patriarchy wherein their faith held absolute authority.

I'm the antichrist and really couldn't have existed without parents that broke the circumcision covenant. I am a grandfather mason and forced the covenant of phimosis onto God. I am like the Sons of Abraham but stand separate among them because their apostate faith worships me. Their faith in Jesus Christ in my presence translates to faith in me.

So where a Son of Abraham will be enslaved by the eyes of a faithful christian girl and forced to act as Jesus Christ would, I am empowered to free will while still receiving the divine blessing of God from their prayers. I have what it is necessary to take from these Christians even their churches and make them my own.

And I only need to do it once to turn God against Christ forever

>>577228

Suffering shouldn't outweigh any benefits. How many innocents would die in your city? Sure we have millions of abortions a year, but there are these 7 guys, real great men. It's worth it.

>>577243

You know there's not only 7 of the righteous.

>>577241

>It follows that the spiritual failure is of the women who failed to maintain the patriarchy wherein their faith held absolute authority.

God placed man as the head of woman. The king is the spiritual leader of his people, and if the people revolt against the king they aren't failing as spiritual leaders. They never were to begin with.

>577271

You misunderstand. You are conflating whose body with whose will.

Who is really speaking here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOYoou3genk

(proxy because banned. Hope this works.)

>>577103

Just so you know women are the reason we are in this piece of shit of an existence. If eve wasnt such a strong indipendent womymn then we would still be in paradise. Women have always been like that.

>>577287

Adam also ate of the fruit.

>>577288

Yeah hes also a pussy whipped cuck just like men who "settles"(giving up) to mediocrity of marriage.

>>577103

THE RESPONSIBILITY IS YOURS

>>574988

>>577297

Considering Eve was literally the only woman on Earth, I think it's entirely acceptable for Adam to settle with her.

>>577299

He could have refused the fruit.

>>577186

a bit of this >>577187,

and not knowing their mother tongue really separates them from their mother cultures

>>577352

From what I read, you're implying that anything obvious to you must be absolutely right without question.

>>577241

lmao

>>577142

You can at least try to learn the site functions, plebbit.