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fc662b No.576410

I'd like you guys to share your thoughts on this.

Today I attended Bible study at my parish, and we were talking about prophecies. My priest, the one leading the discussion, said that prophecies reveal to us the will of God, and aren't just simple predictions of the future. He then said that for this reason, prophecies aren't always true. This confused me because I thought that all Biblical prophecies were always fulfilled, so I asked him to clarify. Using the example of Jonah and Nineveh, he said that Jonah prophesied the will of God that the city would be destroyed because of its wickedness. When they repented, the destruction didn't occur, and Jonah's prophecy went unfulfilled. He defined this prophecy as something that would have happened in accordance with God's will had nothing changed, a sort of "what-if." Scripture is inerrant, so we know it definitely would have happened if the Ninevites didn't repent.

The more I've toyed this idea over, though, I feel as if something isn't right here (even if only in my interpretation of what he said). I get the sense that if we think of prophecy as something that isn't always fulfilled, it's impossible for us to say that a prophecy can be false.

Let's take the Seventh-Day Adventists' William Miller, the supposed prophet, as an example. He made a prediction of the Apocalypse in the 1800s that failed, and later justified his prediction as being technically correct with some mental gymnastics about some shift in Heaven occurring on the date he predicted. When thinking about this man and others like him, I've thought that we can ignore them because of Matthew 7:15-20. They bear the bad fruit of false prophecy, so we know they are not being led by God. But taking what my priest said into account here, what's to say that he wasn't right? For all I know, maybe God did intend to return on the date Miller predicted, but something changed, and the world was spared for a time like Nineveh.

Is this a bad example or something? I'm confused.

3f6099 No.576413

>>576410

Skimming through the book of Jonah, it seems God told him to "cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me." and then again after the fish he's told again: "Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee."

Jonah says 40 days and Nineveh will be overthrown, but since God didn't say anything about the destruction of that city until the end of the book: "…should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons…" could it be that his message was tainted of his own prejudiced spirit?


fc662b No.576418

>>576413

Maybe you're on to something. We know that Jonah went unwillingly and wanted the city to be destroyed, so he might have overstepped his bounds. What you're suggesting is that it might never have been a prophecy in the first place?


3f6099 No.576422

>>576418

Yeah, that's the gist of it. It's an interesting topic though, you should ask your priest if he has any other biblical examples. Would he argue that some of the events in Revelation won't happen if we act a certain way?

I would also quote 1 Corinthians 14:32,33

And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.




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