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>>565554 (OP)

Personally, I think trump would've called himself a Christian before his run to the presidency, however, as for his devotional life, it's probably no different from nominal Christians'.

Honestly that was beautiful. Even if he personally doesn't have that much faith, he is doing a lot to represent Christianity once again. Only God knows his heart. With all these liberals and atheists desperate for 'muh saturnalia" and "xmas is pagan" (notice they love to use xmas cause they don't want to type CHRIST), this will at least remind some of those heathens Christmas is about Jesus Christ, our Lord. Atheists want to have some culture and a holiday season but can't stand that it is to do with Jesus so they are desperate to remove Jesus from Christmas (and everything else in this world). God bless Trump for this.

I like to believe Melania's Catholicism is helping Trump be more earnest in his faith.

>Trump is making America Christian again!

Plz stop this meme. If anything it's just identity politics to piss off the neolibs on Twitter and gain our sympathy.

>>565554 (OP)

>does not even mention that Christ is the messiah, not even says he's the Son of God

he's just a kike puppet playing you like a fiddle

>>565705

>does not even mention that Christ is the messiah, not even says he's the Son of God

Good point. There's no reason no to say this, seeing this would accomplish getting leftists even more butthurt.

No he is not a Christian in anyway. It's called dog whistling. Christians will interpret it as representing our faith, when in reality he's making a very bland and uncharged statement.

>>565554 (OP)

hes a politician. Do the math.

He sucks anyway without his fathers fortune he would be nothing. All his pursuits are failures but hes still rich because inheritance is a scam.

The inheritance increases value over time even without doing anything trumps money would increase and hed still be a millionaire.

>>565554 (OP)

In the end of day, as far as politicians are concern, it's about how much they actually help Christians than saying they're Christian.

Politicians have power, so skepticism of them is to be expected…

>>565554 (OP)

likely he is "christian" because it reminds him of his deceased parents and goes as far as that.

>>565554 (OP)

He's a cultural Christian if I had to speculate, but who knows what's in his heart but God.

>>565716

>>>/leftypol/

Your post reeks like you've been slumming with your "comrades" in an abandoned warehouse for a week doing acid that you bought with daddy's money.

He's a Christian, but furthermore, he is a great president. Him being a Christian isn't of much relevance - Hilary Clinton is a Christian too - but he is a great, Christian president (unlike Clinton and her murderous, hateful, disgusting, selfish, antichrist policies).

>>565724

So inheriting money you didnt earn (billions and increasing in value) is not wrong? Hmmm…..

>>565733

>So inheriting money you didnt earn (billions and increasing in value) is not wrong? Hmmm…..

If it was wrong to pass your wealth on to your children then where would the money go instead?

If a parent dies you give all their posessions to whom? The government?

>>565733

>Hmmm…..

>>>/plebbit/

>>565734

>>565736

I dont mind mild inheritance but this orange nigger literally earns billions just for being born.

I dont like welfare but that money could definitely go to the needy.

>>565736

Sorry for that

I picked up the act from shitty discords because im so alone

>>565724

>Your post reeks like you've been slumming with your "comrades" in an abandoned warehouse for a week doing acid that you bought with daddy's money.

this is your brain on caesaro-papism

He’s a businessman. One that sells his image and name. He changes his image to fit the person he wants to sell to, whether they’re a faithful Christian or a hyper-degenerate, because all he’s looking for is the sale.

Probably only his immediate family know what he’s really like, and I wouldn’t expect to know anything about that for a long time. Not until Trump’s passed and one of his kids writes about their perspective.

>>565747

>I dont mind mild inheritance but this orange nigger literally earns billions just for being born.

I think rich parents who dont hand everything to their kids are much better. Because they usually develop better when they have to work for their money. If only slightly.

Compare for example Ivanka Trump to Paris Hilton. Ivanka was given opportunities,

Paris was given money. Ivanka is a renowned businesswoman, Paris is a renowned drunk.

Trump got a small loan of a million dollars of his Father.

I think its OK in Christianity to loan someone money as long as you dont charge them interest.

>>565760

>>565760

Doesnt matter. 1 million usd in daddy trumps time is 1 billion in dolans time.

He doesnt deserve it. He sucks as a business man.

>>565747

>I dont mind mild inheritance but this orange nigger literally earns billions just for being born.

No. I might not like ZOG Emperor's policies, but you're being silly. You can't create a muti-billion dollar business enterprise and fortune by just being born. Educate yourself as to how economics works, rather than just being jealous.

I'd also add that Trump largely built his fortune by building things--actual productive work–rather than how most Jewish billionaires "created" theirs through speculation and usury. As I said, I dislike Trump and his Israel-only policies, but saying he's earned billions through being born or anything but productive work is foolish.

>I dont like welfare but that money could definitely go to the needy.

Has Trump donated more than a million dollars to the needy? If so, then his loan or inheritance has been better used in productively building his fortune, than in just giving it away at the time he received it.

>>565763

>You can't create a muti-billion dollar business enterprise and fortune by just being born

Meant to say, he couldn't have. And he didn't.

>>565763

>but saying he's earned billions through being born or anything but productive work is foolish.

he's useless trash and you should read Leon Bloy

>>565554 (OP)

He's had a knack for saying more pro-christian than antichristian sentiments, but as a politician he isn't at liberty to discuss his spiritual life. He seems pragmatic enough to understand how important the church is to the country, which is good.

I think he's a deist Freemason, probably subscribes to the Anti-Christ narrative of Jesus being Lucifer.

>>565774

I would like to add that I by no means believe or endorse this heresy.

I'm pretty sure he is Catholic like his wife but says he is Protestant for the PR.

>>565762

>Doesnt matter. 1 million usd in daddy trumps time is 1 billion in dolans time.

I dont think inflation is quite that bad. 16 dollars in the 1970s is worth 100 dollars today.

You are suggesting inflation has gone up a thousand fold when its considerably less than ten fold.

>He doesnt deserve it. He sucks as a business man.

I think hes been quite successful.

I work really hard running my business seven days per week but I definitely dont have the profit margins or the global reach of Trump.

He probably belives Jesus existed but I doibt that he's saved and he doesn't follow Christ's teachings.

also

>we are all God's children

No, you only are if you're saved

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

>>565562

You could get me banned if you want, but Christmas is a pagan tradition added by the First Council of Nicaea so that pagans and Christians do not cause riots in Constantine's empire, and pagans can peacefully accept Christianity as the traditions would remain.

>>565784

>i compare myself to a trust fund baby

I think he is a bad person. He endorses targeting the families of terrorists in retribution. He endorses torture. He doesn't pray or ask for forgiveness. He is arrogant. He calls people names. He is an adulterer and fornicator. He's a hypocrite. He brags about his wealth. He wastes money to live a lavish lifestyle. He had no problem with his daughter converting to Judaism. He abused eminent domain (government-compensated theft).

Is he a Christian? Probably about as much as Clinton and Obama, in other words, I doubt he actually personally has strong beliefs about religion, and if he does, he doesn't live them or practice them. Is he better for the country than Hillary would have been? Of course. The system is rigged so there's only so much he can change anyway, so even when he does want to do good things it doesn't happen. And when you think that he was only able to ascend to the presidency as an outsider because he's a billionaire it shows how stacked the deck is against any actual good president obtaining power and then being able to change anything.

>>565796

I compared my business to his business.

>>565799

Lmao

>>565798

If being a billionaire was all you needed to become president there would be lots of candidates.

What helped Trump was his media presence that he had cultivated over 30 years.

Americans felt like they already knew Trump.

So, for example when the democrats tried to play the race card it didnt work.

It was Floyd Mayweather (the black boxer) who pointed out that nobody called Trump racist until he ran for president. In fact Trump had won many awards for supporting black and minority businesses.

>>565803

You're right but that only makes the situation more dire than what I stated. The only hope for any good outsider to become president is not only to be a billionaire but also be a famous celebrity.

>>565808

That is my point really. Trump is the absolute best possibility in a very bad situation.

Id love Ron Paul or someone like that but they would have been absolutely slaughtered by the left wing media machine.

In fact I cant think of anyone besides Trump that could have gone through that and come out looking better than when he went in.

>>565798

>I think he is a bad person. He endorses targeting the families of terrorists in retribution

Trump has killed relatively few muslims by the very simple virtue of letting Rus/Syria take care of Syria. He pro-nationalist, isolationist rhetoric means that he'd rather shit-post on twitter than go to war. Sounds good to me.

>he endorses torture

Torture has been a way of extracting critical war-time information for centuries upon centuries. There is no prohibition in the Bible on it, either.

>He doesn't pray or ask for forgiveness

You do not know this.

As for everything else, I don't care for the things he's done in the past. If his repentance is genuine, he can be a man of God, same as any of us. And I pray for it, because he is our President. So should you.

>>565791

Christmas is a celebration of Christ's birth, not a pagan tradition. The date it falls is coordinated with other pagan festivals so that there was harmony and less slacking.

>>565847

>Trump has killed relatively few muslims by the very simple virtue of letting Rus/Syria take care of Syria. He pro-nationalist, isolationist rhetoric means that he'd rather shit-post on twitter than go to war. Sounds good to me.

I agree his actions in that area are good, but he advocated bad things in his rhetoric which fortunately he never acted on.

>Torture has been a way of extracting critical war-time information for centuries upon centuries. There is no prohibition in the Bible on it, either.

The Bible never condones it, and there is no provision for it in the Old Testament law, and I would argue New Testament teachings run counter to it anyway. But in Trump's case he basically said even if they didn't do the thing we think they did, they probably did something else so they deserve it anyway. That is definitely not just, even if you do think torture can be justified sometimes.

>You do not know this.

He outright said he'd never asked God for forgiveness, and we know of nothing to indicate that's changed. I take back the claim that he doesn't pray, he has prayed publicly although I question his sincerity.

>>565787

Yep this

Romans 8

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

>>565554 (OP)

>ITT: salty cucks addicted to failure

It's borderline pathological how half of this board's reaction to a man working day in and day out to return Christ to the public square is to Blackpill over what they conjecture to be his personal life

>>565786

>Inheritance is theft

>Investing in assets that will appreciate rather than depreciate in value over time means he's a bad business man

I hope God helps you recover from your severe mental retardation

>>565874

>It's borderline pathological how half of this board's reaction to a man working day in and day out to return Christ to the public square is to Blackpill over what they conjecture to be his personal life.

But he's Zionist, continues Zionist policies. His daughter married a Jew and he said he was proud over it.

He is better than the competition but I have some real problems with those facts. Cultural Christian at best.