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566eff No.562355

Well fellas, I start RCIA Sunday. You guys set me on this path, so thanks.

c911a0 No.562357

Good, you're halfway to orthodoxy.


72e1ec No.562364

>>562357

this tbqh

begome


566eff No.562368

>>562364

Pretty set on Catholicism at this point


d9c0b8 No.562369

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Good luck, OP! It's a difficult path but the only one worth taking. God bless


26a3c1 No.562372

may God keep you in his hands

pray a lot OP


8b0dc9 No.562375

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>>562355

Deo gratias!

God bless you anon. I'll pray for you.


772433 No.562386

You're a big catechumen


566eff No.562391

>>562386

For you


bdc633 No.562419

>>562386

>>562391

I laughed more than I should


6af9c0 No.562423

>>562364

I can't be Orthodox when there's no Orthodox churches in my area. It makes no sense. Unless you want to say you're Orthodox and never go to church.


772433 No.562426

>>562391

Was getting received part of your plan?


772433 No.562427

>>562423

You're already joining the orthodox church m8. Only God is orthodox


23db3b No.562436

Hopefully it's not pozzed.


3f326f No.562452

Currently in RCIA, it's very comfy, but actually too comfy. I'm hoping once the "inquiry" period is over, which is ending soon I believe, the actual schooling is going to kick into gear. There's a Q/A portion in the beginning and sometimes it can stretch out pretty far. The way I think of it I'm not there to have my current concerns addressed I'm there to learn more so that I can ask more substantial questions later, when it comes time to decide if I actually am willing to be confirmed or not.


244047 No.562536

>>562452

>I'm hoping once the "inquiry" period is over, which is ending soon I believe, the actual schooling is going to kick into gear.

This is generally how it goes. The inquiry period is softy softball questions and then around Advent the heavy questions start flowing in regarding liturgy, theology and morality.

>I can't be Orthodox when there's no Orthodox churches in my area.

In any case, the Catholic and Orthodox church are almost one and the same. There exists both Eastern Rite Catholicism and Western Rite Orthodoxy.


6dcb7c No.562647

>>562423

Oh okay. My bad then

>>562368

Understandable

>>562536

>the Catholic and Orthodox church are almost one and the same

Even when considering rites, this is only kinda true.I won't list the differences, because that would detail the thread, as we have seen in a good portion of the posts on this board


cc9fb3 No.562670

>>562536

>In any case, the Catholic and Orthodox church are almost one and the same.

No.


93ca53 No.562674

>>562670

The Catholic Church is the Orthodox church. There is only one holy catholic and apostolic church. The roman, eastern, oriental and Assyrian communions are all a part of that one same church for Christ cannot be divided.


056b50 No.562722

>>562536

>our blessed Lord's church is almost the same as schismatic churches.

I don't believe so my friend.


dcc849 No.563056

>>562355

Thank not anyone but the Holy Spirit guiding you.

I wish you all success and best of luck on your path to God. God bless you !


c2a361 No.563073

Good luck OP, and God bless you.

By the way, if your teacher tells you something that you know is wrong, don't hesitate to correct them on it. I'm saying that because I've heard too many horror stories about somebody being taught outright heresy during RCIA (from a Catholic perspective). At least, read the Church Fathers at the same time as your catechesis.

>>562674

Charismatically, we don't and can't know (although at least, from a Catholic perspective, schismatic churches have sacramental ties to the Catholic Church even without being a part of it).

But canonically? From a Catholic perspective, the Oriental Orthodox have excluded themselves from the Church by embracing the heresy of monophysitism. The Church of the East has excluded itself from the Church by embracing the heresy of Nestorianism. The Eastern Orthodox have excluded themselves from the Church by embracing the heresies of monopatrism and whatever you'd call a rejection of papal supremacy. The canonical boundaries of the Church exist for a reason, you know, and in Roman Catholicism, these boundaries are simple: be in communion with the Pope and you are part of the Church.

>>562536

>In any case, the Catholic and Orthodox church are almost one and the same. There exists both Eastern Rite Catholicism and Western Rite Orthodoxy.

Eastern Catholicism can be anything from being identical to Latin Catholicism (see the Maronites) to being Orthodoxy with a different bishop commemorated (see the Melkites).

Western Orthodoxy is doctrinally identical to Eastern Orthodoxy, it just has a different flavor to it.

And Eastern Orthodoxy & Latin Catholicism have very, very different doctrines, my friend. They may be basically the same compared to an Independant Fundamental Baptist, but compared to each other, the differences are way too important to sweep under the rug.

Theologically:

- monopatrism (the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father alone) vs. "filioquism" (the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son)

- the Papacy is a human institution (thus the bishop of Rome is first among equals) vs. the Papacy is a divine institution (thus the bishop of Rome has a special prerogative)

- the nature of Heaven and Hell is partial, and of a possible purgatory nature for Hell, vs. is total

- God's essence cannot be seen and the energy proceeds from the essence vs. God's essence can be seen, and is the energy

Practically:

- the focus on unending prayer is much more heavy in Orthodoxy

- the rejection of visions and emotions is also much more heavy in Orthodoxy

- for cradles: baptism, chrismation, & first communion all together in Orthodoxy vs. baptism first and chrismation & first communion later in Catholicism

- the differences between oikonomia & dispensations

- the focus on natural law is much more heavy in Catholicism

- which is why artificial non-abortifacient contraception is a mortal sin, while it is a venial sin in Orthodoxy

- in fact, the whole distinction between mortal and venial sins - in Catholicism: "did I sin badly enough to go confess?" vs in Orthodoxy: "oops, i sinned, i better go confess"

- different Eucharistic practices: the Body alone vs. the Body always together with the Blood

- different Eucharistic practices: always must confess mortal sins before communion in Catholicism, vs. it being left up to the bishop and the priest in Orthodoxy (which can be more strict or more lenient than in Catholicism)

- different fasting expectations, especially as of recently, which mean different standards for the laity


fa93db No.563221

>>562357

>>562364

>>562647

Fuck off heretics

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ac2f7c No.563230

>>562355

God bless you and keep you on this process.




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