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I would like to see what the question actually said.

>>557882

Ditto. Afaik, the Church tells us to accept homos, but demands that they remain single and celibate.

>>557926

>the Church tells us to accept homos

O-one true church!

>>557881

We are not protestants!

>>557930

That's why I said Baptists/Protestants. Inwasn't imply they're the same

>>557881

Sodomy is forbidden according to church doctrine and taught to us by the Doctors of our Church.

The difference between some prots and Catholics is that prote doctrine says its okay to have lesbian half-muslim pastors.

>>557881

Yeah, I believe it. Only 30% of the latins believe in the real presence.

>>557949

It's cause most Catholics in the USA are direct immigrants or closely related to immigrants. Immigrants in the US always fall in line with liberalism. Despite conservatism worldwide, Catholics and Muslims in the USA both support homos more than evangelicals do because of liberalism. It's just a natural effect of living in the Great Satan

>>557957

>America made me do it i dindu nuffin

>>557957

that makes sense, plus there's no such thing as a cultural baptist/evangelical to identify as when one apostatizes.

i've met a few "catholic atheists."

>>557958

I'm not Catholic or Muslim though, I'm Protestant

>>557947

You still think they can go to heaven if they be a good boi

>>558067

> You still think they can go to heaven if they be a good boi

No, logically being a sodomite and being good is self contradicting. However, yes i do believe they can get to heaven through repentance.

> You still think they can go to heaven

No YOU believe that they can get to heaven in that state of mortal sin. Don't you know that the sodomite was OSAS'd?

>>558119

OSAS means "once saved, always saved." Since sodomites can't be saved once, how can they be saved always?

Heretics are excommunicated and not Catholic.

>>557930

>>557940

you clearly are though, you believe in faith alone and have roots in the reformation.

>>557881

we are the larger denomination

>>557881

>Catholic

>pro-sodomy

pick one

Probably due to the people baptized Catholic that don't practice their faith but still include themselves as Catholic on census data.

Me and my Priest mate were discussing this at a pub. He estimated that about 4% of the Catholic School in my little area in NZ are actually practicing Catholics.

Its a sad state of affairs.

>American

There's your answer

How does the fact that some Catholics are okay with homosexual "marriage" change the fact that you have female and transexual pastors? Facts are facts.

Catholic church is way bigger than any protestant church and thus has way more casuals. It's a numbers game.

I'm Italian and I suffer from same sex attraction; I'm Catholic and I think we should discourage it whilst at the same time show love (and here I'm talking about Christian love, not the world idea of "love") to those who honestly struggle with this issue, whilst firmly oppose and rebuke those whose want to normalise it (and pray that they might have a change of heart and repent).

>>557943

Was Silvio an ourguy after all?

>>559088

>1) what's the sample size?

7,202 and 8,593

source: bottom left of the diagram in OP's image

>2) where was this taken?

nationwide

<For most of our national surveys of the general public, we conduct telephone surveys using a random digit sample of landline and cellphone numbers in the continental United States.

source: http://www.pewresearch.org/methodology/u-s-survey-research/sampling/

>>559096

Four paragraph long text talking about correlation between homosexuality and anime.txt

>>559096

You know that's not true, you love your sin

>>559096

Romans 1

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

>>559102

don't bully

>>559104

>You know that's not true, you love your sin

see how judgmental you are? I don't commit sodomy, the most I can do is talk with people online and do alternative methods of masturbation. Just because I'm gay doesn't mean I'm immoral.

>>559109

>reprobate meme

Please stop it. It's obvious people can't choose their sexuality

>>559112

>see how judgmental you are?

I think you mean how judgemental God is, see >>559109

>Just because I'm gay doesn't mean I'm immoral.

The fact you identify as gay proves you are immoral, you love sin, and you hate God.

why are Catholics who do not practice the faith ( hold views that are contrary to church teaching, and would hold these views if they knew the church teaching was different) are considered Catholics? lapsed Catholics are not Catholics. Catholics are called the faithful, so how can the lapsed Catholics be called the faithful? 100% of Catholics, would be in the second column. so the question is on you

>>559114

With all due respect, you're being autistic anon. I don't get why some trads are triggered by the word "gay", it's literally the same as "same-sex attracted".

>>559112

1. Please don't call yourself gay, that implies you have segz with other men. Also I don't think identifying as gay is healthy for you anyway, especially when there is some wicked agenda around the world pushing sodomy as something normal. I understand you suffer from some kind of sexual temptations. It's not like you're the only one. For example I fell in love with a married woman and I can't make those stupid feeling go away, but I'm not acting on them.

2. I understand when you talk with those people you encourage each other into accepting your state as ok, so stop doing that and instead start talking to people that will help you out of this.

3. Masturbation is a sin, too.

4. Begom celibate :DDDD

>>559117

Identifying as gay is like identifying as murderous

>inb4 thread locked

>>559084

no, but he wasn't a soros shill

>>559096

Being gay isn't Genetic. It's an epigenetic response to a complex set of problems. There's a reason why most gays lived bad childhoods, and why prisons are filled with the gay. By nature of it being epigenetic, it's changeable.

Baptists fucking rule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gPlEFXPxxQ

>>561000

I was under the impression that Christianity is apolitical.

Is there some commandment about what political ideology to hold? I would argue that the Catholics' political views mirroring the country at a whole is evidence of Catholicism as a whole sampling a larger and more diverse portion of the population than other denominations that swing one way or the other. Where you live is the biggest indicator of where you lie on the political scale afterall.

>>561021

There are now and have always been more evangelicals in the US than catholics, and those evangelicals are spread out over a broader range.

Ideology is the most significant indicator of political affiliation, but you're right that geography is a key indicator.

Politics of Christians is a topic with volumes written on it, but in short I would point out that our representative democracy allows us to affect the laws and one party is decidedly anti-abortion and the other has stated that pro-lifers are not welcome. The bible makes preservation of life an urgent issue and is clear that life begins at conception.

>>561021

It's not apolitical at all. Statism elevated to idolatry is forbidden (read "Mit Brennender Sorge"), and so are all forms of (involuntary) socialism. The official stance of the Roman Catholic Church is that even christian socialism is incompatible with Christianity, while capitalism can be either good or evil.

>>558880

>Me and my Priest mate were discussing this at a pub

This is why I like catholics

>>561039

So, evangelicals outnumber Catholics in the south and in the midwest, twice as many in the south actually. The most right-wing areas in the country. And they're also statistically more right-wing leaning than Catholics.

>>561048

How does idolatry of the state being forbidden somehow make Christianity not apolitical? Seems like that would encourage Christianity to be apolitical.

>>561099

yes

The main point is that high population and geographic spread isn't an excuse for the beliefs of Catholics when compared to other groups

>>561108

You got a better explanation?

That and >>558880

are the only theories put forward to explain it.

Meanwhile all I've heard from protestants in this thread are petty insults and a belief that they've got some kind of Divinely appointed political ideology.

Fun fact for ya, your political leaning comes from your genealogy mostly and then from your environment second.

So what I've learned in this thread is that according to Catholicism it's ok to just ignore American Catholics, they are actually heretics and should be excommunicated. But for membership purposes they can still be counted.

>>561149

Just understand that a lot of Catholics are heretics and would probably be in trouble if we still had an inquisition. Catholicism has a culture and long history behind it so some people like to identify with it even though they don't really believe it.

>>561149

>should be excommunicated.

Any Catholic who the churches dogma is a heretic and is ipso facto excommunicated

>>557959

same nigga. Every other fag in college talks about how they were raised catholic nobody every says raised Lutheran

>>559096

>I am not responsible for the things I do

Grow up fag.