f51584 No.557405
Ave Maria
Gratia plena
Dominus tecum
Benedicta tu in mulieribus
Et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus
Sancta Maria, mater Dei
Ora pro nobis peccatoribus
Nunc et in hora mortis nostrae, amen
677a01 No.557431
O Theotokos and virgin, rejoice.
O Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the Fruit of thy womb;
for thou has borne the Savior of our souls.
c44143 No.557444
hurr durr pagnan hyurr durr
8ae4b6 No.557479
>>557405
>>557431
>>557444
/christian/ in a nutshell everyone
08a20b No.557591
May she lead us all to obey her Son.
2afc64 No.557600
>Thou shalt have no other gods before me
40d75a No.557644
>>557600
Literally no one isnhaving any God's before God.
Mary is not a god, no one thinks she is. Mary does not have anything other than what God has given her, but God has made her full of Grace.
0783ea No.557651
>>557405
Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our life our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, our mourning and our weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then Most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb Jesus
O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary
Pray for us O Holy Mother of God
That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ
22db2a No.557663
Ephesians 5:19
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to Mary;
>>557444
this
017318 No.557823
>>557651
Salve Regina, Mater Miserecordiæ
Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve
Ad te clamamus exules filii Hevæ
Ad te suspriamus gementes et fleentes in hac lacrimarum valle.
Eia ergo advocata nostra
illos tuos miserecordes oculos
ad nos converte.
Et Iesum, benedictum fructum ventris tui,
nobis post hoc exsilium ostende.
O clemens, o pia, o dulcis Virgo Maria.
22db2a No.557839
>>557834
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Leviticus 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
fd5e98 No.557841
>>557839
works based salvation?
22db2a No.557847
>>557834
>>557839
also
Acts 10
25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
Revelation 22
8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
043050 No.557851
>>557839
Jesus never said we can't make statues
1a09fc No.557856
>>557839
>painting
>graven
smh tbh fam
58097f No.557864
>>557847
>>557839
Our holy mother is the vanquisher of heretics. Notice the triggered bapbabie.
6b08a3 No.557878
>>557851
>Jesus isn't LORD
heretic
>>557856
You still make statues
1a09fc No.557880
>>557878
>statues
>graven
Cast bronze or go home
043050 No.557884
>>557878
>>Jesus isn't LORD
Did I say he wasn't? No. But how do you explain the temples and ark being adorned with golden cherubim? Clearly he was talking about idols like the golden calf.
6b08a3 No.557887
>>557880
>he thinks they have to be bronze
Leviticus 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
>neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it
1a09fc No.557888
>>557887
So if it's sitting and made of cast metal we can worship any statue we like?
6b08a3 No.557889
>>557884
You said Jesus never spoke about it
1. That was commanded by God directly to do it
2. Sometimes God commands things that wouldn't normally be allowed like when he said when attacking some cities to kill every single person in them
3. God never said to make statues of Mary and definently not of himself
6b08a3 No.557892
>>557888
16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:
043050 No.557893
>>557889
Where in the NT does God say that we are not supposed to have statues?
6b08a3 No.557895
>>557893
Where does he say we can? Anything not repealed is still in place and it's idolatry. And Acts 17 kinda sounds like it might say that but that's not clear
1a09fc No.557896
>>557892
>graven image
So you're agreeing with me
6b08a3 No.557899
>>557896
All statues are graven images and should be burned
043050 No.557903
>>557895
How is it idolatry if you're not worshiping a different God? A crucifix is just a reminder of Jesus' sacrifice for us. A statue of Mary is just a reminder as well. If it's not prohibited in the NT, then where's the problem?
6b08a3 No.557906
>>557903
Because that isn't Jesus. Also I'm pretty sure God said don't make ones of him but I don't remeber where that is.
Also I mean all satatues are graven images not just ones of false religions. He said don't make any.
6b08a3 No.557907
>>557906
Also we don't knkw what Jesus looked like
043050 No.557913
>>557906
>Because that isn't Jesus.
Great job, Sherlock. Did I say it was? I said it's a reminder of his sacrifice, not something that is meant to capture his exact likeness. As long as it evokes what Christ did for us, it's doing it's job.
>>557907
>Also we don't knkw what Jesus looked like
Actually, we do.
6b08a3 No.557920
>>557913
And you still pray to it
That's also if it's real(probably is) and it's a very poor image. Are you going to worship a cloth now?
043050 No.557924
>>557920
We don't pray to the statue, we pray to God in Heaven. Like I said, the statue is just a reminder and helps us focus our mind on God.
6b08a3 No.557928
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>557924
>We don't pray to the statue we just bow down to it, burn incense to it, sing songs to it, and scream lik a baby when it breaks.
043050 No.557934
>>557928
I see there's no point in arguing with you because you're refusing to hear what I'm saying. Whatever I say you're still going to reply with "hurrr you're praying to the statue that's idoltry" BS because you don't care about having an intellectually honest discussion. I'll pray for you.
6b08a3 No.557939
>>557934
Can you show me where Jesus said to make statues for you to remember his sacrifice? He said when you do communion to remeber him not when you look at a graven image
1a09fc No.557963
>>557899
>cast metal is graven
m8
cd94e2 No.558013
And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
45e7e1 No.558061
>>558013
>which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
good thing there is a marian apparition in which the statue moved and talked then
6b08a3 No.558066
1f153c No.558072
I sure hope this isn't some kind of weird pagan fertility/mother goddess holdover that somehow supplanted itself into Christianity…
http://www.seetheholyland.net/milk-grotto/
I really hope its not.
15c996 No.558077
>>557939
then surely, God sinned by building the Ark, and having them Jews worship it
15c996 No.558079
>>558072
It's not. It's the blessed Mother of God appearing to intercede for us.
5552d5 No.558081
>when you're driving down a rural road late at night and stop by a roadside Mary shrine for some prayer
Any other European anons do this regularly? It's so peaceful.
6b08a3 No.558083
>>558077
I don't remenber them bowing down to it. And again God sometimes makes exceptions like he sometimes told the Israelis to kill every single person in a city including infants. That doesn't mean it's notmally allowed
fd460a No.558084
>>558072
how do you know eating those rocks really doesn't have miraculous power though?
lots of people claim it's made them fertile.
some even say it gave them "healing from cancer, blindness and paralysis."
source: https://www.osv.com/osvnewsweekly/byissue/article/tabid/735/artmid/13636/articleid/18836/at-the-milk-grotto-evidence-that-there-is-god.aspx
5552d5 No.558088
>>557928
that's a really sad video ;_;
15c996 No.558089
>>558083
>I don't remenber them bowing down to it
ya it's not like the Jews had it in it's own sacred place or nuttin
e37b61 No.558096
>>558083
>I don't remenber them bowing down to it
They literally bowed down to it.
6b08a3 No.558097
>>558096
Then they shouldn't have. Yhey also bowed down to the golden calf
cd94e2 No.558101
>>558083
>I don't remenber them bowing down to it.
They did, because God was residing in it. Plenty of references to that. Also the altar wasn't made of hewn stone, it had to be unworked.
But as for the idols, the works of their hands, well I guess their idol is talking, or is in a journey, or peradventure it is sleeping and must be awaked.
6b08a3 No.558103
>>558101
If they were bowing down to God then that's fine. But if he wasn't in there then that's bad
cd94e2 No.558118
>>558103
Someone's got to be magnified. Just make sure it's God and not a pagan idolatrous fetish or something else of that nature. Recall the words of John the Baptist
John 3:30
He must increase, but I must decrease.
15c996 No.558121
>>558097
wut
>>558103
before Christ worshiping in the Temple was valid, are you calling God a liar? Christ preached in the Temple right?
15c996 No.558123
before Christ, worshiping in the Temple was valid*
e5e0dd No.558197
>>558081
>Any other European anons do this regularly? It's so peaceful.
There aren't any near me. Feels badman. I remember they were everywhere in Germany, Austria and Switzerland when I went.
Children praying at shrines is the best aesthetic.
22cd01 No.558203
>>557928
This video gets posted a lot, I still don't understand how it shows that Catholics "worship" idols. It's just some women screaming because something big is falling on the ground, women do this all the time, but Baptists are claiming this shows idol worship somehow? I'm sure women would scream at a baptist church if the podium gave out underneath their pastor.
536d12 No.558216
c44143 No.558300
>>557663
>baptists are so stupid they think a shitpost parodying them is real
kek
23abe0 No.559732
>>557405
“Never be afraid of loving the Blessed Virgin too much. You can never love her more than Jesus did.”
–Saint Maximilian Kolbe
“Some people are so foolish that they think they can go through life
without the help of the Blessed Mother.”
-St. Padre Pio
"An infallible and unmistakable sign by which we can distinguish a heretic, a man of false doctrine, an enemy of God, from one of God's true friends is that the heretic and the hardened sinner show nothing but contempt and indifference for our Lady."
-St. Louis de Montfort
cd94e2 No.559759
>>559732
>St. Louis de Montfort
He was the one responsible for creating many of those weird doctrines so of course he would feel a great amount of personal pride in getting others to follow them.