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>>550096

>the bible doesn't condemn salvery

Read titus, romans and philemon

>>550096

>slavery

It's not immoral because human freedom and human goodness aren't attained by "doing what you want, when you want" but instead are attained by conforming to the good. A peasant, slave, hobo, soldier, accountant or duke can all conform to the good and live righteously, despite their earthly limitations and seemingly "oppressive" social relations.

Slavery is not inherently immoral, the relationship is neutral, just like being forced to go to school as a child is not inherently immoral. Whether the master and slave behave morally is another question.

>marital rape

actual marital rape is immoral, since whoever is doing the raping is using the other as a means to further their lust, and dehumanizing the other.

But marriage comes with duty, so giving up your body to your partner is part of your duty, even if you don't always feel like it. That isn't rape, that's just doing an obligation. But if actual violence and coercion get involved then it's immoral.

>pedophilia

wut? this isn't /islam/

the girl has to menstruate. and since sex aim at procreation the parents should be mature enough to take care of a baby.

>>550096

How do you know those things to be immoral?

>>550096

>Slavery

It is condemned >>550099

>Read titus, romans and philemon

asides from the fact, that it is condemned by unwritten law, by the fact, that God made Adam and Eve free, Just lake polygamy is condemned by the fact, that God made Adam and Eve and Not Adam and Eve, Rachel, Elisabeth and so on.

>marital rape

It is condemned, as it is considered as lust

>pedophilia

Go back to >>>/islam/

>>550102

>Slavery

>It is condemned

It's condemned and condoned. Depends how its done. It's really not inherently immoral.

>slavery

>Bondservant of Christ

>Marital Rape

>Duty to your spouse

>Pedophilia

>Millstone around your neck and thrown into the sea.

>>550096

But it does.

Slavery is actually allowed in the Bible but under some certain circumstances

Do you mean rape in marriage? Id that even a thng?

It does

>>550096

I have a similar question: what about animal rights? Like we don't kill cats and dogs anymore. I don't think their rights are anywhere in the Bible. Is it possible to find morality outside of the Bible and Church teaching?

>>550100

>the girl has to menstruate. and since sex aim at procreation the parents should be mature enough to take care of a baby.

Yeah but I think he means modern-day definition of pedophilia looking a every girl under 18 years.

>>550100

Rape isn't about sex. It's about dominance, using sex as a weapon. 1Cor 7:3-4 shows marital sex to be mutual, giving neither spouse dominance.

>this isn't /islam/

You're right, it's not. So stop preaching that the man has the right to take sex by force from his wife.

>>550325

>Not quoting the verse

As matter of fact you'll find that you ARE a islamist.

>>550325

A woman has an obligation to have sex with her husband and vice versa.

>>550327

>not pulling out your Bible to look up the verse

>>550330

Not really. As a matter of fact there are many times where it isn't permissible to have sex with your wife. For example, when she's on her period. No matter how bad you want it, you can't have her during that time. Spousal obligation ends where God's law begins.