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15e07d No.550055

Often times it's really obvious to tell when something is a spiritual shill, like Scientology or satanism. It's really obvious, however there are certain organizations that look sound and speak christian, but they have a sketchy history, or are involve in secret sects.

Poppy: This one should have been clear to everyone whos seen what mainstream media tries to push, but she was actually popular here for a little and still gets posted recently. https://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/poppy-youtube-star-illuminati-mind-control/

Knights of Columbus >>545681

Knights Templar webm related.

Part of what drew me into Christianity from occultism was the authenticity, but you must becareful with whatever is presented as something good a face value, we must test everything to see if it's really of God, the truth will be the truth or it won't be at all.

0d5f6a No.550057

What's so bad about Poppy?


15e07d No.550063

File: 42a7c8541937edb⋯.jpg (600.12 KB, 1567x1108, 1567:1108, Untitlessd.jpg)

More on the cross and crown symbol, this goes with Exodus 20:4.

>>550057

The Vigilant Citizen Link i posted should answer this with greater detail, but basically shes only pretending to be christian, while her videos are throwing satanic symbolism in plain sight.


b905e8 No.550111

>>550055

Get off my subreddit King Philip IV of France


3fb58d No.550114

>>550055

>Things that look christian but aren't

Pastor_Anderson.jpg


2aaf57 No.550876

>>550055

Poppy is as pure as the driven snow. Btw that pose was originally of Jesus in Christian art (like The Last Judgment by Hans Melming) before it was appropriated by Eliphas Levi for that Baphomet picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBfvF4iULyg


fc93b6 No.550878

>>550055

Did anyone really need to be told that poppy is just some girl playing a character? It's performance art. sheesh.


2aaf57 No.550883

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>550878

>poppy isn't real

You shut your mouth!


84f653 No.550892

File: 34bf0f0453b099a⋯.jpg (52.26 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 6ee.jpg)

>things that look Christian but aren't

>list's the Knights of Columbus

Hmm…


c11fbf No.550894

>>550883

mk ultra ass bitch smh


2aaf57 No.550900

>>550894

If she was a mind control victim you should feel sorry for her not call her a bitch. But no I'm pretty sure she's just a pop musician with some ironic social commentary and some mysterious artsy stuff to generate interest.


0365d8 No.550904

File: 91b45a1c06d6fbf⋯.jpg (13.82 KB, 250x187, 250:187, mods-mods-mods-mods.jpg)

>>550055

>Knights of Columbus

>world's largest Catholic fraternal service organization

>Started by Cathbro priest

>The group is the "largest lay organization in the world and very close to the heart of Pope John Paul II," Bishop Lori said. He noted how the late Pope "spoke of the Knights of Columbus as a strong right arm of the Church."

What the actual fug is going on here? Is this /pol/ sperging out about masons controlling the world on behalf of the lizard people, again?

>https://vigilantcitizen.com/

Oooookay … confirmed for lizard people.

>>550114

Yeh, I grinned

>>550111 (check'd)

And I fugging lol'd here

>>550878

>Did anyone really need to care that poppy exists?

>>550063

>basically shes only pretending to be christian

WHO was ever under the misapprehension she was Christian?! Who starts there?

I assume everything to be non-Christian until praising Jesus begins. Only way to survive. I got burned bad by mewithoutYou


2aaf57 No.550908

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


e859d0 No.550909

File: 0defc630463746c⋯.png (788.73 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1485312509651.png)

>it's another episode of protestant sees satanist symbol mocking Christianity by imitating Christian imagery and perverting it and thinks it's satanic, thus falling right into what they were trying to accomplish

>it's another episode of protestant not understanding the meaning of symbology and how as a Christian no pagan or satanic symbol has any power on you since you are one with Christ and he has dominion on all creation, until you start claiming that it does so by your own free will God lets it gain influence on you


e859d0 No.550910

>>550909

*satanist mocking christianity


b733c1 No.550911

File: 0243004ca6b29c6⋯.jpg (57.4 KB, 1334x750, 667:375, 0243004ca6b29c6e922877bdaa….jpg)

>>550904

>Is this /pol/ sperging out about masons controlling the world on behalf of the lizard people, again?

>confirmed for lizard people.

>fugging lol'd


e637b8 No.550912

>>550057

Why would you like poppy? It's a trash muh performance art jewtube garbage


b733c1 No.550913

>>550876

>>550883

>>550900

>>550908

>>>/tv/

>>>/waifu/

>You shut your mouth

You're really the same exact waifufag from earlier on /christian/ who would post poppy.


0365d8 No.550914

File: 295e487749f9411⋯.gif (390.89 KB, 500x200, 5:2, blood-teeth.gif)

>>550911

You got told, boy. Just swallow deep and accept it


2aaf57 No.550915

>>550912

It's mocking commercialism and SJWs.


2aaf57 No.550917

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

b733c1 No.550920

>>550909

>not understanding the meaning of symbology

>Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

>how as a Christian no pagan or satanic symbol has any power on you since you are one with Christ and he has dominion on all creation, until you start claiming that it does so by your own free will God lets it gain influence on you

Do you have biblical text to back this up? I'm not a protestant by the way, and you're almost missing the point, it's not just symbolism, this has to do with an organizations masquerading as christians, like Mormons.


b733c1 No.550926

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>>550876

Maybe you're right in that they have the same pose, that doesn't mean the pose was originally from jesus (or that it's biblical), just because some artist drew him doing it. Baphomet has a long history behind him it's not just a pose, it represents The hermetic Seal of Salomon visually depicts the concept of “As above, So below” while representing opposites energies mirroring each other to achieve perfect balance. Here is more detail on it https://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/whoisbaphomet/ This pose is done by people in the music industry, sometimes it's in different ways, regardless they're not doing it because of Jesus.


2aaf57 No.550929

>>550926

Baphomet has a long history but that specific pose being associated with Baphomet doesn't. If someone imitates that pose we can speculate whether they are trying to imitate Baphomet or the earlier portrait of Jesus or if they are aware of the longer history of it, but we can't really know. As above so below sounds a lot like thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven, doesn't it? Food for thought.


b733c1 No.550933

File: 0d953c3ea3c8d39⋯.webm (3.25 MB, 1166x900, 583:450, 0d953c3ea3c8d39023e361cda….webm)

>>550929

>they are trying to imitate Baphomet or the earlier portrait of Jesus

>but we can't really know

>As above so below sounds a lot like thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven


e03b32 No.551025

>>550055

Even if Poppy wasn't doing weird masonic stuff in that pic, she is definitely dressed like a THOT


74bf1c No.551076

File: 3f1a38ed5f1e195⋯.jpeg (31.91 KB, 500x517, 500:517, The fugg is this heresy?.jpeg)

>>550929

>Mfw this nigga has a point

>Posting with a baptist flag

This is a confusing thread tbh.


e859d0 No.551080

>>550920

> I'm not a protestant

baptists are prostestants


c11fbf No.551152

protestants

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b6b6ac No.551464

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>>551076

He's messing with everyone. The anti-christ, the one world kingdom, ect Satanism itself is an inverted counterfeit, entertaining the idea that the people pushing the media are worshiping Jesus while pushing a transgender and feminism agenda is clearly wrong.

>>551080

>>551152

I only consider my self a 'christian',I was raised catholic and participated in the Eucharist and other Mary related events, but don't use the label because it don't really mess around with denominational fighting/and i don't know enough to choose a denomination. Instead try to see where the hidden satanism is. You're assuming that i'm protestant to discredit the information i've posted, or to mod shield Catholicism, this thread isn't about Catholics, and i was extremely specific on what i was posting on. Don't use denominational blaming as an excuse for your lack of rebuttal, especially when it's i'm neither baptist nor protestant.This issue of false Christianity happens to all the denominations.

Regardless, this isn't even directly related to the knights Templar, do you have any counter information, that doesn't make this masonic friendly secret society satanic? I would like to hear it, otherwise they're not christian.


eb1378 No.559085

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04933e No.559118

File: a91aae1e1f201f2⋯.jpg (115.85 KB, 808x1116, 202:279, Bartolomeo Cavarozzi.jpg)

>>551464

>second image

How long has the eye of providence been around? And was it always a ZOG thing or was it commandeered?

I'm not convinced every appearance of it has the same meaning.


24505c No.559126

File: c47c6a8fecc2b6f⋯.png (88.93 KB, 313x325, 313:325, c47c6a8fecc2b6f9e66d2a9c8b….png)


612d1c No.559128

>>559118

Since Renaissance. It was (and still is to many) symbol of Triniy

>>551464

>Eucharist and other Mary related events

What.


54ee0b No.559138

>>559085

I laughed


cc4354 No.559139

File: f207f1fc7250c7c⋯.jpg (33.76 KB, 396x691, 396:691, 798ff13391d4ac9f28476750a1….jpg)

>>550055

Seriously, conspiracy shit on /christian/? What is this board now, a combination of /x/ and /pol/? What have the ebil Masons done to you now, stole your gf, your grandmother's cookies, or you social security number? Most churches ban them, so if you want to keep away from them, then go to church.


8981c9 No.559141

>>559139

>Conspiracy theory

No CIA memes please.


cc4354 No.559142

>>559141

>CIA

At least it is far more plausible. Wasn't there a CIA op where they were infiltrating churches in 3rd world countries?


9c5d1f No.559147

File: f0fe1b8a0081de1⋯.jpg (68.77 KB, 640x454, 320:227, eyeofra[1].jpg)

File: 345f07644b8cb4a⋯.jpg (162.89 KB, 800x533, 800:533, serveimage.jpg)

>>559118

>I'm not convinced every appearance of it has the same meaning.

It comes from the Eye of rah, and rah was sun deity, like another fire themed angel of lite.

>>559128

>Since Renaissance. It was (and still is to many) symbol of Triniy

Those are not christian symbols, look at Exodus 20:4, they're freemasonic symbols, yes, they're taken from other cultures, but for a reason, they're all Gods worshiped that aren't YHWH nor biblically related. Also you clearly didn't watch or read the OP. You think there aren't secret sects within Christianity that are posing as it to destroy it from the inside out, like so many another subcultures?

>Matthew 7:15 15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

This is why the cross has been called idolatry, because the bible doesn't tell you worship it nor to wear it in Exodus 20:4.

>Since Renaissance.

When you say this, do you mean you're getting Christian information from the art and culture that is suppose to be for the religion, and therefore you're counting it as part of it?


c5b694 No.559149

>>559139

>Seriously, conspiracy shit on /christian/?

Yeah, what is this conspiracy shit on my /christian/? Lets just go back to the bible and read up on the global government, or people who say they're Jews but aren't, or how one spiritual entity is trying to destroy the earth while going against God.

> Most churches ban them, so if you want to keep away from them, then go to church.

>At least it is far more plausible.

>you know most churches ban them, and i know what i'm talking about since i clearly don't like reading into conspiracies and i pretend they only exist when they're "plausible" to me personally, but you should take my advice anyway.


cc4354 No.559151

>>559149

>one spiritual entity is trying to destroy the earth while going against God.

Just one?


c5b694 No.559153

>>559151

>1 john 5:19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

The devil is the main one, even if he has demons and fallen angels working with him.


cc4354 No.559155

>>559153

Do you spend more time looking for signs of Satan or for the Lord? If you have trust in the Lord what need you fear?


8981c9 No.559156

File: da7cebfd0a4f8dd⋯.png (187.75 KB, 653x214, 653:214, 1444080802792.png)

>>559155

>Quickly spot someone doing a Masonic sign or something of the sort

>Try to evangelize someone or warn someone else

>They scream at me for learning about symbols of Satan

By this logic, reading the Book of Revelations is bad because it talks about your enemy instead of The LORD.


04933e No.559157

File: d52fe8407fb4b08⋯.jpg (73.89 KB, 492x492, 1:1, 6ed1fccac2b62774caf2a46950….jpg)

>>559147

>It comes from the Eye of rah

How do we know that? Freemasons probably connect the Eye of Providence and Ra because they're weirdo pantheists, they also think "amen" means "Amen Ra" but they claim they didn't start using the symbol until about 1800. Seems it was around much longer before that. Either the Freemason's are lying, the symbol came from somewhere else, or people are making more out of the symbol than is there.

At this point the "all seeing eye" is so synonymous with secret societies and big brother it's become a normie joke.


cc4354 No.559158

>>559156

>reading the Book of Revelations is bad

Not at all, but those that concern themselves with it almost exclusively find 'signs' everywhere. These are oftentimes the people that keep having to make updated end-time prophesies.


af1f7e No.559159

File: f9ee732d582652c⋯.jpg (35.09 KB, 600x448, 75:56, 7ac.jpg)


c5b694 No.559172

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>559155

>Do you spend more time looking for signs of Satan or for the Lord?

I spend most of the time praying, i found the lord by discovering how much satanism was on earth and in our media and realized how vital it was to contact God. It's important to know how these work because they sometimes present themselves as miracles of God or Christianity itself. You do have a point that someone who is too obsessed with demons will call them, thankfully i have God to protect me from that, but i want to warn other Christians who aren't aware of hidden bait.

>How do we know that?

I know this because you can read the testimony of ex-33 degree masons like https://archive.org/details/TheDeadlyDeceptionJimShaw_201606 A deadly deception from Jim Shaw. They do rituals that appear to honor Jesus and the bible, like there is a ritual where you kiss the bible but it's suppose to be a kiss goodbye whole on their pagan alter.

>they also think "amen" means "Amen Ra" but they claim they didn't start using the symbol until about 1800.

They also say that the meaning of the Eye of Providence is suppose to be God, until you reach the final level of their and you learn it's lucifer.

>At this point the "all seeing eye" is so synonymous with secret societies and big brother it's become a normie joke.

Even though it doesn't have to do with Adam Weishaupt anymore, It's become a buzzword, the pyramid eye has become a brand to sell to people, and it wasn't conspiracy community that made it a brand, but the ones working withing it that did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqs0O7ZBbRM see 8:44. That doesn't mean it's original mean has changed as the eye of luicifer, it's just means that people are deluded to have it go mainstream without retaliation.

>These are oftentimes the people that keep having to make updated end-time prophesies.

No, i'm not into New Age religon, i always approach this with a christian perspective, because usually any attack against Jesus (like claiming that hes Horus) or prophesy that doesn't go with the bible (like Nostradamus) is wrong. Not everyone who is aware is a gullible idiot.


c5b694 No.559177

>>559159

Hes not though, because if you read the thread you'll see that i'm not protestant.


473632 No.559232

File: 643a567fd3a7484⋯.jpg (430.52 KB, 1600x1064, 200:133, goalpost.jpg)


e58652 No.559243

>>550892

Yeah, I don't get this either.


e58652 No.559250

>>559172

Isn't Providence literally just a fancy way of saying the Will of God?

If you consider it the Eye of Providence who cares if some Satanists worship it as Lucifer? It ain't to you.


b29901 No.559257

>>559139

>gnostics are driven away like heresy

>but masons dindu nuffin!!! never4get that

/christian/ double standard


a7f39e No.559274

>>559250

this >>559172 post should answer how it's a counterfeit of Christianity.

>If you consider it the Eye of Providence who cares if some Satanists worship it as Lucifer? It ain't to you.

The video in >>559172 should explain why it's important to recognized occult practices that pretend to be christian.

>>559257

It's funny how i was called both a jew and a /pol/ sperg in the same thread.


019a3b No.559827

>>550055

>ancient Roman god

>Baphomet

What?

>Knights Templar

>satanic

>implying

Prove it.

True "free-masons", in Medieval times, worked free-stone. I would not be surprised if there were "free-masons" in the Templar Order, which is probably the connection. Then came the Enlightenment and their thing with straight lines and architecture, which I'm not very clear on. The modern devilish Freemasons have nothing to do with that, unless you can prove otherwise.

>that Stronghold music from the webm

wew


011ea1 No.560430

File: 8cf9d710b2e3170⋯.jpeg (12.75 KB, 277x182, 277:182, download.jpeg)


1b123e No.569875

I don't know about Titanic but Poppy is definitely a Christian, the Illuminati stuff is satire and Vigilant Citizen may not have picked up on that.


96de74 No.569933

File: 5d555f128cc3262⋯.png (6.96 KB, 640x896, 5:7, 162cf367df3903ef95e35cc552….png)

>Protestants will think this is satanic


04933e No.569939

File: 1f6e580ced39738⋯.jpg (9.75 KB, 240x161, 240:161, pastor.jpg)

File: 0e776aec6b059f5⋯.gif (499.94 KB, 245x188, 245:188, tumblr_lt25koAqOO1qzrlhgo6….gif)

>>569933

if I say it I'll get banned


220dc1 No.569959

>>569939

"hey I ignore Church history an shiet". Anderson isn't any better than Varg bro, he's just not as honest about his intentions


425cd2 No.569965

>>559147

Yeah, Renaissance artists knew about the Eye of Horus and its significance to the long-dead egyptian pagans. Pull the other one mate.


04933e No.569981

>>569959

And what are the devious hidden intentions that you've uncovored of his holiness Pastor "Pope gets the rope" Anderson (pbuh)?


47a400 No.569983

File: 16d203c3595c028⋯.jpg (34.04 KB, 642x750, 107:125, gonnegt the dots.jpg)

>>550914

Old post but,

>shitty tumblr gif with the fucked up light filters that only has 2 seconds of stilted, incomplete movement


0eeeec No.570430

File: 43c5693e2fbb896⋯.jpg (77.97 KB, 663x364, 51:28, 2cc095ad-5d98-42ae-8a8a-35….jpg)

>>569965

Not sure if sarcasm but for clarification, Egyptian Hermetic writings surfaced and partially inspired the Italian Rennaissance with writers such as Ficino, Campanella, Mirandola and later Bruno (who as a Dominican friar professed allegiance to these teachings and was burned at the stake for heresy because of it)


0fd6c7 No.575797

File: c2806a28404dbb4⋯.webm (9.03 MB, 854x480, 427:240, Exposing the Satanic Illu….webm)

Here is better explanation of the Templar and watch tower's alliances with masons.


0fd6c7 No.575819

File: 1bfdab4686a5863⋯.webm (13.31 MB, 854x480, 427:240, Masons, order of templar ….webm)


c4ae6b No.576061

File: c990c6dc7923ab5⋯.jpeg (87.38 KB, 442x599, 442:599, 2D1799D4-720D-41E2-9854-F….jpeg)

>>559118

>How long has the eye of providence been around

That is very interesting question. I did some quick research and it would seem that there is no easy answer. Its use on the great seal of the United States would seem to pre-date any use by freemasons, but rying to find the oldest known example of it turned up nothing. Pic related, 1525.


0fd6c7 No.576274

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>576061

>Its use on the great seal of the United States would seem to pre-date any use by Freemasons,

You didn't watch the webms i posted? Yes, the freemasons are a collage of symbolism from ancient secret sects, however the ancient religions with lucifer/satan symbolism or themes were always satanic by themselves.


0fd6c7 No.576275

File: 50c50cafd14c38f⋯.jpg (16.94 KB, 288x203, 288:203, th.jpg)

>>576061

It comes from the eye of Rah, who is a sun god.


0fd6c7 No.576280

File: 33cfeba1dc6098c⋯.jpg (60.91 KB, 700x465, 140:93, kyrkan.jpg)

File: f69453e3e3e5a8c⋯.png (273.48 KB, 485x477, 485:477, boule member 1.png)

File: 96a42d1f3bd0142⋯.png (373.26 KB, 485x477, 485:477, boule member 2.png)

File: ba0452c10d83fa6⋯.png (2.44 MB, 1571x934, 1571:934, Knights templar.png)

File: 64fca3edcda4ea8⋯.png (2.13 MB, 1605x1162, 1605:1162, church of ladder day saint….png)

>>576061

Sorry for the triple post.

This is precisely the point of this thread, just because it's on a church, or in older art, or in some renounced position within the church, does not make it christian, they have been playing both sides since the beginning. The satanic old religions are still as satanic today as they were before, the only difference is they're learned to hide what is more blatant and desensitized to what would have been shocking before.

>2 Corinthians 11:14 for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

>Hosea 4:6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.


e734cf No.576297

>>576280

>Symbol have but one meaning

>Pagans corrupting christian symbols make said symbols bad

It's like you never read fourth book of kings and how Samaritanias came about

>>576275

No it comes from Eye of Odin who is frost god.

For fuck sake m8, eye is universal symbol of knowledge because, real shocker here, you use it to see.

Resistance artist have little to do with Egyptian art, it was discovared in Napoleonite era.

And da fuck you have with the sun? Have thou not read who is sun of rightousnes?

>>576274

>Symbol is evil because of itself and not because of meaning that author use it

Jesus=Maahes confirmed.

Also, for someone who like to jizz over First commandment you make shittone of images of things on earth.


425cd2 No.576325

>>570430

Hermiticism has little to do with the ancient egyptian idolatry as should be obvious from how greek it is. I don't think there's a single reference to the Eye of Ra in the known Hermetic writings.


73029f No.576347

File: 26d87ee524ec568⋯.gif (1.45 MB, 480x336, 10:7, 745a720a9f37da03934c53c4ab….gif)




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