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"So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth."

>>542749

>how bad is it to be purposely evil and deceptive

>I don't care about faith

Then why are you asking us?

Obviously there will be terrible consequences for such dishonesty and egoism…but you already know that.

> I just want to take advantage of whatever system I can to get ahead with what life I've been given.

Yet you will die, so it doesn't matter how much material treasure you hoard on earth, you'll have to part with it and encounter your maker and then you'll realize the folly of your ways, but then it'll be too late, and eternity will be very unpleasant.

>>542749

>I can to get ahead with what life I've been given.

What about a life that would be better for you, but for all eternity? Why focus on things that simply corrodes away like the flesh?

To find this advancement, you need a source which is also eternal. And can find it with God, Master over life, but it requires all of us to lay down our will for Him to start improving our lives.

>>542752

I don't know about evil but yea I certainly couldn't break "cover" in my example.

>>542753

I take a more agnostic stance on the whole issue as I figure if there is some afterlife it's not gated by some arbitrary faith filter. Of course none of you protestants will make into heaven. That's only reserved for Catholics right? You guys need to repent and get properly baptized. If I'm going by christian doctrine I should be able to accept christ on my deathbed and everything will be alright.

Assuming I'm not a shitbird most of my life I don't think christ (if he IS part of the faith filter) would shit on me.

That's assuming there is an afterlife.

>>542754

>if I'm going by christian doctrine I should be able to accept christ on my deathbed and everything will be alright.

You might not have the luxury of being on a "deathbed" with enough time and clarity of mind to ponder your life and God.

Plus faith is not just verbal assent, it requires self-transformation, authentic repentance and belief in a certain worldview your future self might object to because of certain prejudices and lack of knowledge. Faith is also something God works in you and you have to reciprocate, it's not always up to you…

Best time to start is right now, even if its only a little bit of faith and a little bit of repentance and change…

>>542757

>You might not have the luxury of being on a "deathbed" with enough time and clarity of mind to ponder your life and God.

Perhaps, but that distinct possibility remains. Doesn't that sound like a bit of an easy out? What if not having faith is god's plan for me to make someone work hard to convert me? My non belief is effectively giving someone purpose.

>>542760

>Perhaps, but that distinct possibility remains.

If God wills it, all things are possible for him. But you'd be taking a giant risk because if your conversion is not genuine and your repentance not authentic then you'd just be mumbling empty words.

>Doesn't that sound like a bit of an easy out?

No, it wouldn't be easy, that's the problem. If you started now then you might have time to cultivate genuine, saving faith that bears good fruit.

But if you leave it to the last moment chances are you won't be prepared, your words won't be authentic, and you'll lose everything. If you don't believe now, why would you believe then??

Remember you can lie to girls and to business partners, you can lie to yourself, but you can't lie to God, he knows you, you can't "scheme" him like you do others.

>>542777

No, you damn idiot. God gives you free will to reject him and damn yourself, you retarded illiterate degenerate fedora. You spit on God and try to trick him. It's not going to work, snake, nor will you ever destroy his Churich with your hippie new age social club garbage.

Did your parents molest you, anon? It usually happens to people like you, who have daddy issues and then reject the fraternal figure of God.

>>542777

>Then he would be responsible for my mind that rejects him

>MY PARENTS MADE ME A LOSER, NO I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MYSELF >:^( IT'S MY PARENTS FAULT I'M GAY

>>542789

>Yes, lecture me more on degeneracy. I need a good laugh. I will talk shit on protestants all day but at least their not Catholics.

I can lecture you in morality because you are a theologically degenerate fedora with a meaningless life who has no idea about what he's talking about.

But this is no surprise, from someone who has daddy issues

>>542789

Dude God gave you a mind and you do what you want with it. God is everything good in the world so if you wanna go and reject good then go right ahead but, amazingly, life without the source of good really sucks.

hell is hot

>>542789

>My parents are responsible for my genetic make up not my divine creation. If I were gay what does that have to do with my decision on faith? There's a lot of practicing faggots.

Your genetic whatever means nothing. There is no "being gay". No gene, no brain pattern. No anything.

The point is that you are a manchild trying to put the blame on God and trying to trick God with lies that not even you believe.

>To whom?

There is no "to whom". You just are.

>a life he would have wanted me to live?

Again, why do you try to tell lies that you don't believe? You are a degenerate, a faithless snake that will be thrown into the fire. You can't deal with the things you have chosen, so you pretend God somehow forced you to do so.

There is nothign honest about you or your life. You lie when you pretend you have any purpose, any meaning, any morals, and that you can trick God. It is so retarded, so nonsensical that it could only come from the simple little mind of a fedora.

The only rational thing to do is to follow God's Truth instead of spitting on him and then talking about how epic your "tricking God" plan is going to be. At worst you damn yourself. At best you damn yourself. There is no coin flipping, there is no poor attempts to be smug that will save you. There is no wager, just a future that will make your currently miserabe life seem to be child's play.

>>542792

>>542790

Your religious leader is a literal virgin cuck and your implications are more pathetic than your adherence your pedophile cult.

>>542791

You talk like a good christian boy. Too pure for this board.

>>542792

It had better be.

>>542793

>You are a degenerate, a faithless snake that will be thrown into the fire.

No redemption? why even bother then?

>ad homs and implications out the wazoo

I'll let god judge me. I don't need a cathlicuck telling me anything about morality in any capacity.

>>542794

>Are you going to play the part wholeheartedly or just rationalize what is beneficial to you in the moment?

I'd have to go church and see.

>Saying something akin to "I fuck dogs" and rationalizing it as the highest moral good, just for the sheer fact that you're admitting to it, doesn't change the fact that you're fucking dogs.

I give you that point in so far that you agree that's a hell of a deviation from "going to church and dealing with my lack of faith with a half truth". That was a very long and fast jump to a non kosher form of animal husbandry if I've ever seen one.

>Though you're a bright guy, why would you need our thoughts on the matter?

You can discuss systems here without fear of getting banned for wrong think as long as you're not blatantly shitposting from what I've seen. Same can't be said for certain hammer and cycle themed boards.

Even if I'm not convinced it's more fun to have a discussion than isolate myself on other boards where similar topics aren't broached.

>>542797

Joshua 1:9

"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go.”

I have a lot of family members who are faithful so I wouldn't be surprised if I had multiple angels watching over me at any given time. Perhaps some more enthusiastic than others to monitor me.

OP is probably talking about protestant churches and since they're not Christian it's all good

It's better to go to church for a dishonest reason and end up going for a good one than to not go at all, I think.

>Possibly too you have come on another pretext. It is possible that a man is wishing to pay court to a woman, and came hither on that account. The remark applies in like manner to women also in their turn. A slave also perhaps wishes to please his master, and a friend his friend. I accept this bait for the hook, and welcome you, though you came with an evil purpose, yet as one to be saved by a good hope. Perhaps you knew not whither you were coming, nor in what kind of net you are taken. You have come within the Church's nets : be taken alive, flee not: for Jesus is angling for you, not in order to kill, but by killing to make alive: for you must die and rise again. For you have heard the Apostle say, Dead indeed unto sin, but living unto righteousness . Die to your sins, and live to righteousness, live from this very day.

>>542749

Since you're an atheist/agnostic, why does it matter to you how 'bad' something is? Just do what you want, go to church and develop 'business connections', or whatever you think you'll get out of it.

Also 'virgin waifus' are rarer than you think, and the ones you'll find will probably be able to see through your ruse quickly, but that's just my opinion.

>>542799

>Your religious leader is a literal virgin cuck and your implications are more pathetic than your adherence your pedophile cult.

Again, you are a theologically degenerate fedora with a meaningless life with no idea about what he's talking about. And probably a projecting pedophile who would have no problem raping his own family in his epic plan to later repent.

You will find redemption the moment you accept Christ, his Church and the divine Truth, and renounce your current degeneracy and evil. I can condemn your acts and positions. Judging means to ultimately condemn someone to Hell or not. And you still are a delusional snake with no morals or principles.

>>542806

>why does it matter to you how 'bad' something is

It doesn't.

>Also 'virgin waifus' are rarer than you think, and the ones you'll find will probably be able to see through your ruse quickly, but that's just my opinion.

I'm no chad thundercock by any means but challenges like almost goad me into church hopping until I find one with the most the fertile waifus.

>>542808

>buttblasted by facts yet again

Apart from your implications and your own projections do you have any valid arguments or are you just jerking me off here?

> I can condemn your acts and positions.

I'll condem your ass right back for following a known pedophile ring (this can be cited unlike your claims) and adhering to a cuck pope (I'll post some pictures here for you if that would please you). Assume the worst things you said about me were true. Does that excuse your acceptance of pedophilia within your church?

You're a charlatan. And a poor one at that.

Matthew 7:1-3 motherfucker.

>>542809

>Apart from your implications and your own projections do you have any valid arguments or are you just jerking me off here?

I do not make any assumptions, I just state facts, like the fact that you were probably molested by your parents, have become a pedophile and then project your degeneracy.

It seems you know a lot about pedophile rings, which you probably know very well from the inside.

>>542809

Oh by the way. I will be waiting for:

* The part of the cathechism that highlight pedophilia as a positive thing

* The statements by popes that declare pedophilia to be a positive thing

* Statistics that compare children abuse, comparing clergy and the overall population, as well as clergy and atheists

* How many of those cases are homosexual abuse by sodomites

I'll wait ;)

>>542777

You have the power of the mind, you've seen the splendor of the only true god, the one that doesn't judge but only act on his purpose

God did not put humans in a test, he knows the final result already, but only wants to prove his point

>>542822

Is this a joke? Is this your great news? ncronline? cnn? telegraph.co.uk? independent.co.uk? washingtonpost?

I'm going to ask again, retard. I don't care about what the pope does. Whre are those statistics? Where is that gerat pedophilia ring you talk about? Where is that "RICH HISTORY"? I don't see it anywhere. I see a degenerate pedophile projecting, making up excuses and trying to move goalposts by talking about the Pope's favorite colors.

>>542822

And by the way, I have asked for foursimple thigns which you will, no doubt, have no problem providing, oh great and epic trickster of God.

You won't provide them, because you are a sexually molested child acting smug, talking about thigns you don't understand.

>>542822

>Bit on the cryptic side

Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty. Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him. Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place. Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret. Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee. Job 40:10-14

What does it mean for you?

>>542754

>Of course none of you protestants will make into heaven. That's only reserved for Catholics right? You guys need to repent and get properly baptized

Nice cover, I'm sure you'll make it. Please read the gospels. Also, Protestants do get baptised and repent (as all Christians should do).

"If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you will be saved'.

-Romans 10:9-10

>>542754

>If I'm going by christian doctrine I should be able to accept christ on my deathbed and everything will be alright.

Don't take God for a fool.

“These six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in running to evil, a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren”.

-Proverbs 6:16-19 (NKJV)

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven".

-Matthew 7:21 (NKJV)

>>542754

> If I'm going by christian doctrine I should be able to accept christ on my deathbed and everything will be alright

Why assume you’ll have the ability to accept Christ on your deathbed? See Matthew 7:21. Why assume that you’ll even be on a deathbed in the first place? You could die very suddenly. The thief on the cross truly believed in Christ and truly repented of his sins, but not every dying sinner will be blessed with such perfect repentance, and such a perfect occasion.

>>542833

Hi, please remember that this is a Christian board and that we have rules:

>4. Non-Christians are welcome to post here, and are encouraged to ask questions in good faith. But they cannot proselytize non-Christian beliefs or post antagonistic or otherwise scandalous material.

The users have offered to help you and you are welcome to take their advice to learn about or accept the faith, but advocating for anything sinful is not allowed.

8For you were once darkness, but are now light in the Lord. Walk as children of light,

9for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth,

10proving what is well pleasing to the Lord.

11Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them.

12For the things which are done by them in secret, it is a shame even to speak of.

13But all things, when they are reproved, are revealed by the light, for everything that reveals is light.

>being this intellectually dishonest

It's clear you don't care about the truth at all so get lost.

>>542808

>Judging means to ultimately condemn someone to Hell or not

Accusing somebody of being an unrepentant pedophile without any evidence is pretty much exactly what a sin called rash judgement is about.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=35965

http://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/rash-judgment