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Uh, no.

>>539019

good answer.

>>539020

Saying there is a verse in the bible that directly speaks something is a sign of knowledge of the bible, but saying there is none is a sign of complete knowledge of the bible, since you can only know what isn't there by knowing everything else that is in there.

t.Me

>>539031

I don't understand, why are you upset?

"No" isn't a bad answer. Sometimes there are no direct confrontations to things in the bible. I'm pretty sure saying "no" is 100% in line with your thread.

Can you specify further, if you want anything else?

>>539038

he calls them gods in Exodus 12:12 and uses the word Elohe to describe them the same word used in Gen 1:1, and states that he will judge them, you can't judge something that doesn't exist. they're obviously not demons if the same word is used to describe them as the Elohim who created the Heavens and the Earth (strongs 430 hebrew). unless you're going to try to call the Elohim who created the heavens and the earth in Genesis "demons" you argument of calling the Gods of Egypt does not apply as it is not only wrong, but in total ignorance of the claims the scriptures makes. Even Moloch in Acts is called θεοῦ (God) which is the SAME word the NT uses to call Jesus the Son of God(θεοῦ) here's the interlinear verse if you don't believe me http://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/7-43.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/12-12.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/1-1.htm

here's a verse that pertains to demons in the old testament

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/106-37.htm

>the rest of your post

pretty much NOTHING you brought up has anything to do with Yoga, or breathing exercises.

>>539036

your post doxxing someone, and the other guy comparing me to him are disgusting.

>>539039

being stern on calling out bullshit does not imply that I'm angry. but I guess the point still stands, it doesn't seem like anyone can take from either source of ideology and point out what one says about the other.

>>539038

for the record, I would just like to point out to you that you can find Jesus Christ even in the Hindu scriptures being described as 1) The Son of the Immovable Living God 2) Born of a Virgin. 3)Someone who had died and ressurected according to the animal sacrifice laws of both the old testament and the vedic laws which are remarkably similar (I.E. bones not broken, tied to a stake, crown of thorns) and on an interesting note in the Vedic tradition the sacrifice for remission of sin is suppose to come back to life.

Why do we have a daily Yoga thread?

>>539079

Yoga and opening the third eye is mainstream now.

>>539081

I remember this stuff being mainstream in the 70s. Is this like some case of "everything old is new again"?

>>539082

the New-Age kundalini sphere is a real money maker for it's gurus, so they rebrand their mysticism every couple of years to fit the current market

yoga saw a resurgence in the last 5 or so, but it's had advocates and practitioners since the 60s as you noted

an interesting aspect of eastern thought masked as holistic pseudo-science has been the 'Mindfulness' movement which is really just Buddhism with all the statues removed - and that's currently being funded by many government health agencies as a treatment for mental health issues

imho that's where a lot of the real damage will be done, since the worst the yogis get up to is teaching their acolytes to drink their own piss - and if you're willing to pay money for that kinda advice, then you're complicit with the self-delusion and deserve all its rewards - whereas the 'seeking the answers within' so ubiquitous of dualistic thought, only serves to send vulnerable people into darker and darker corners of their psyche; and most of them aren't capable of seeing such chicanery for what it is

>>539090

>Your links don't have Moloch as Elohim as the greek word

they actually do, because Elohim is a hebrew word, not greek, and i explicitly stated that the word for God used in describing Moloch was in acts, a Greek text. and thats because Moloch is the "god's" name. your post is intellectually dishonest.

http://biblehub.com/text/exodus/8-28.htm

also the term Elohe-kem is used to describe as a possessive term for God. and Yahweh uses the same term Elohe to describe himself, Moloch, and the gods of Egypt.

> but doesn't necessarily mean it's a true God.

I didn't imply that its the "True God"

>. A god that doesn't exist is just a false god

you're missing the point, regardless of you failing to understand that this deity exists, the BIBLE validates this god as EXISTING, having a tabernacle, and a star (most likely in the firmament)

> but an idol that was worshiped and became a "god" due to how demons/magic works.

spoken like someone who doesn't know how demons/magic works.

>You could make up some kind of a false God and worship it, if there is a demon present that it will create "miracles" for you. depending on how much it's fed/worshiped.

go ahead and try reading the testimony of solomon, your post is all kinds of spurious.

>>539094

>the New-Age kundalini sphere is a real money maker for it's gurus, so they rebrand their mysticism every couple of years to fit the current market

I could make the same exact claim on most forms of Christianity, especially the whole purgatory/mass scam the catholic church pulled in order to milk people for money by holding them hostage in the afterlife. the second half of your claim is a load of crap… no one rebrands anything for a market. sure there are a lot of charletons pushing snake oil, but its an actual science, thats suppose to be given out for free.

>yoga saw a resurgence in the last 5 or so, but it's had advocates and practitioners since the 60s as you noted

this holds true for america, but its ancient in India.

honestly bro, I'm just going to tell you that you really have no idea what you're talking about in any way, shape, or form.

>an interesting aspect of eastern thought masked as holistic pseudo-science has been the 'Mindfulness' movement which is really just Buddhism with all the statues removed

are you not suppose to be mindful of your actions? what does the mindfulness movement mean in your eyes, do you even know anything about the buddhist doctrine? do you understand they have proverbs of destroying their own "idols" and making it a point stating that they do not need them, or is that something that you don't care to represent or reflect on to fit your world view? also holistic medicine is not a pseudo-science, there are wholesome natural ways to cure every ailment that the human body can face. are you willing to call Jesus spitting into dirt and rubbing it into a blind mans eyes a pseudo-science? what about peters snot rag that healed someone?

> and that's currently being funded by many government health agencies as a treatment for mental health issues

one of the more interesting things I find about the Hindu doctrine in general is that epilepsy (along with many other mental health issues) is a condition that is caused by demons, and removed by the power of prayer, something even christians either testify too, or completely ignore and refuse to acknowledge the condition is caused by demons. is it fair to say its obvious which side you sit on?

>imho that's where a lot of the real damage will be done, since the worst the yogis get up to is teaching their acolytes to drink their own piss

proverbs 5:15

>- and if you're willing to pay money for that kinda advice, then you're complicit with the self-delusion and deserve all its rewards

and no one payed for this kind of advice, its freely given and suppose to be a well-kept secret, its generally the kind of advice given to someone who has no other choice and nowhere to turn to. and your statement is incredibly dishonest and disingenuous, there are people in the world that testify that such a practice can cure cancer. I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt and believe them since its a rather horrible thing to lie about. you're delusional in not understanding God would design the body to be able to produce its own perfect medicine.

also I can turn around and with the same tone of your statement make the same tone about the christian gospel

>imho thats where a lot of the real damage will be done, since the worst the Christians get up to teaching that a discarded snot-rag from Peter healed people.

are you able to see how shitty, facile, and dishonest your statement is? or do I need to make another example?

>>539099

wut am i doing? because I don't even know.

>>539115

>You don't know anything about me, but we know everything about you, FringeFaggot. We will follow you to every board and every website you try to infect and we can't be banned. We are Legion.

cast yourself into swine, and run off a cliff.

>>539096

>The conspiracy isn't just Satanic/Illuminati

It's all the same angel of light and his jewish children, even if they branch out into other secret sects, it's still the same horned, lightning, snake entity they're worshiping.

>you need to understand the Roman Catholic/Jesuit involvement in the NWO

I know about the pagan history of Roman Catholicism and the false Christianity of the Jesuits.

>the heliocentric model is one of the driving forces for the NWO propaganda

I actually agree. i'm really surprised to see someone talk about the flat earth here. How would explain Isaiah 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth" though, are you going with a circular dome shame? i ask this more out of curiosity than correction, since i stopped researching the flat earth in the bible.

Psalm 82:6

>1God takes His stand in His own congregation;He judges in the midst of the rulers.

>6I said, “You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.

>7“Nevertheless you will die like men And fall like any one of the princes.”

That is directed to the rulers or god.

John 10:34

That's out of context. It was posed a question in respounce to those claiming hes a false god.

>the Bible distinctly calls us Gods, and we are to sit at the right hand of God with Christ. ephesians/2-6.htm

>And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,

That's not distinctly calling us Gods

We are made in God's image, we are God like, the serpent wasn't completely lying, but it was talking about something we're not ready to fool around with. Also a Godhood is soo much more than having domino of the earth or being able to create life, Godhood would mean to be like God which is impossible for regular men.

>unless you can clearly demonstrate from the scripture that the 3rd eye is demonic the testimonials of these people are drawn in basically ignorance.

Mathew 12: 25Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

Because it's blatantly opening yourself to demons.

>this is a baseless accusation

Except it's not, why would people have distinct demonic oppression symptoms then? Like spontaneous yoga positions, from no previous yoga experience. http://anmolmehta.com/signs-and-symptoms-of-the-kundailni-awakening-experience/

>also this indirectly states that the human body in itself is demonic in nature since the 3rd eye is something that is part of the body, are you going to tell me that the body, which is a temple to God, and the spirit of God dwells within has infact demonic parts to it?

>Romans 3:23 “Due to the sin nature received from Adam

>Book of Enoch

That's an alternative gospel like the Gospel of Thomas.

>>539099

hey it’s been a minute lad how have you been

>>539007

Yoga and breathing exercises are fine so long as you don't impute any spiritual significance to them. If you want to do weird stretches in a hot room more power to you. Ain't my thing tho

As for breathing exercises we know they stimulate the vagus nerve which calms you

>>539157

>How would explain Isaiah 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth" though, are you going with a circular dome shame? i ask this more out of curiosity than correction, since i stopped researching the flat earth in the bible.

I care much less about it being flat than I do it being stationary, but in the light of the flat earth truth I basically took the time to throw everything everyone ever said completely out of the window and I do mean everything. the main point is geocentric vs heliocentric cosmology. its gotten so bad I've thrown "apostolic authority" out of the window and now consider it to be one of Satans Lies in order to control the direction of the church.

>That's out of context. It was posed a question in respounce to those claiming hes a false god.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

you'd have to take it up with Christ, because he did the same thing. read john 10 and you might come to an understanding Jesus is referring that verse to us

>We are made in God's image, we are God like, the serpent wasn't completely lying, but it was talking about something we're not ready to fool around with. Also a Godhood is soo much more than having domino of the earth or being able to create life, Godhood would mean to be like God which is impossible for regular men.

if this last part were even remotely true then Christ would not call on us to do Greater works than even Him. (John 14:12) and whether or not we were ready to mess around with it is completely besides the point. God KNEW Adam and Eve would eat from tree of knowledge of good and evil BEFORE the foundations of the world were ever laid down, and the plan to redeem mankind with it.

>Mathew 12: 25Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

again, this has nothing to do with the 3rd eye and it being a direct and deliberate part of Gods design of the body. unless you're trying to state that Satan had a say in the design and mechanisms of the human body the accusation is completely baseless.

>Because it's blatantly opening yourself to demons.

Have you ever looked into how to summon and open yourself to demons?

>Except it's not, why would people have distinct demonic oppression symptoms then? Like spontaneous yoga positions, from no previous yoga experience. http://anmolmehta.com/signs-and-symptoms-of-the-kundailni-awakening-experience/

have you ever fasted? it hurts if you're unhealthy, it makes you feel week, shakes, headaches and many symptoms included in your list. if you've practiced fasting though it actually gives you energy and makes you feel great. are the symptoms from fasting signs of "distinct demonic oppression symptoms?"

>Romans 3:23 “Due to the sin nature received from Adam

http://biblehub.com/romans/3-23.htm

thats completely what the verse doesn't say. MOOT argument… bring the rest of the verse into context.

>That's an alternative gospel like the Gospel of Thomas.

not an argument. The Book of Enoch is referenced in Jude, the idea that angels laid with women is completely biblical and backed by Genesis 6. and the Gospel means "the good news" the book of enoch isn't even a gospel, its a pre-Torah text like Job. and God would NOT leave us in the dark as to who the Watchers (mentioned in several places in the bible by the way) and what they did.

>>539157

bro, i don't say this to cut you down, I say this because I'm blunt and it needs to be said. you're really stupid…

>Maybe i'm wrong, but I can't match the two hebrew words.

thats because you are wrong. Moloch is the NAME of the god, Elohim is a TERM for gods. something like Thoth, Osiris, and Isis would classify as Elohim, the same way Moloch does

http://biblehub.com/amos/5-26.htm

here's the verse where Moloch is called one of the Elohim.

>That is like misinterpreting "Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.".

no, thats letting the scripture interpret itself by pointing out it acknowledges several other gods as beings that exist. Exodus 12:12 is a good example of this since it pretty much validates the entire Egyptian pantheon as existing, and all their myths being historical truths.

>Not cannon.

not an argument, it actually attests that Jesus Christ is the son of God who died on the cross. it doesn't matter if you think its not "canon" its divinely inspired.

>>539007

You're probably reffering to yoga here.

Stretching and breathing is perfectly fine, it's when you attach heathen shit that it becomes problematic.

Breathing and stretching: Good

Being one with the universe: Bad

>>539099

But I thought CF doesn't post on imageboards anymore?

>>539075

What does that even mean?

>>539218

>if this last part were even remotely true then Christ would not call on us to do Greater works than even Him.

Jesus wasn't a regular man, he was God with the body of a man, he was sinless.

>>Mathew 12: 25

>again, this has nothing to do with the 3rd eye

Opening the third eye has shown to bring demons, using deliverance people cast them out. If these symptoms weren't demonic, these practices wouldn't removed them, that was why i posted Mathew 12:25. It wasn't about the design of the body.

>unless you're trying to state that Satan had a say in the design and mechanisms of the human body the accusation is completely baseless.

>(John 14:12) and whether or not we were ready to mess around with it is completely besides the point. God KNEW Adam and Eve would eat from tree of knowledge of good and evil BEFORE the foundations of the world were ever laid down, and the plan to redeem mankind with it.

God created evil and good, the body can be evil and good, we also have the ability to use dangerous magic, that doesn't mean God wan't us to use it. We are spiritual beings with dangerous mechanisms.

>have you ever fasted? it hurts if you're unhealthy, it makes you feel week, shakes, headaches and many symptoms included in your list. if you've practiced fasting though it actually gives you energy and makes you feel great. are the symptoms from fasting signs of "distinct demonic oppression symptoms?"

It's not that same as losing control of you body and doing Yoga posses you've never learned. I listened to a testimony video of a woman who said she had snake nightmares.

>>are you going to tell me that the body, which is a temple to God, and the spirit of God dwells within has infact demonic parts to it?

>Romans 3 21But now, apart from the Law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets. 22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.,

Man can sin as a second nature. Yes, god created evil to test good. We have free will to chose to listen or not. That is why Godhood doesn't work with regular men. The temple of God can easily be effected, it's not automatically a temple of God without any mindfulness.

>not an argument

>not an argument, it actually attests that Jesus Christ is the son of God who died on the cross. it doesn't matter if you think its not "canon" its divinely inspired.

Do you also take the Gospel of Thomas and Q/Quelle as part of the bible? The GoT also mirrors certain verses to the bible, such as the kingdom of God being within you.

>bro, i don't say this to cut you down, I say this because I'm blunt and it needs to be said. you're really stupid…

kek, that was dumb of me, i'm just trying to be sure. It's really common that people misinterpret the bible, just like i will misinterpret it as well.

>thats because you are wrong. Moloch is the NAME of the god, Elohim is a TERM for gods. something like Thoth, Osiris, and Isis would classify as Elohim, the same way Moloch does

I see now that the word is used for gods in the bible, thank you.

>>That is like misinterpreting "Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.".

>no, thats letting the scripture interpret itself by pointing out it acknowledges several other gods as beings that exist.

I understand your example, the reason i believe they're false Gods is because the bible also says

>Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no other, besides me there is no God; I equip you, though you do not know me,

>Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.”

>Deuteronomy 4:35 To you it was shown, that you might know that the LORD is God; there is no other besides him.

>John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

I might be repeating myself but do you see how an absolute conclusion you bring. This is like how the bible uses the word prophets to show both real and false prophets. If the bible is correct in calling them lower case 'g' gods, than it must also be right in who it calls the upper case 'g' God.

>I didn't imply that its the "True God"

Just out of my curiosity do you believe in a true god?

How is breathing exercises metaphysical? I'm pretty sure it's entirely physical.

>>539096

Uh anon the Elohim of Psalm 82 are wicked beings who God is rendering judgement against, do you really want to identify with that?